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Nations Rise Again: O’Gaming announces Nation Wars - Page 2

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Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
June 30 2019 23:24 GMT
#21
On July 01 2019 06:03 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Yay, I'm hyped. Still not keen on you guys using the same format though (same complaints as for previous editions - too much focus on star players instead of team effort with this 3 player all kill thing, kind of destroys the buzz for me... and yeah, still salty about us losing to Serral).

If most countries were deep enough to make it a fun competition I'd agree with you
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
July 01 2019 00:02 GMT
#22
Great tournament from O'Gaming. Just hope the fans actually take the voting seriously.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 01 2019 00:06 GMT
#23
On July 01 2019 08:24 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 06:03 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Yay, I'm hyped. Still not keen on you guys using the same format though (same complaints as for previous editions - too much focus on star players instead of team effort with this 3 player all kill thing, kind of destroys the buzz for me... and yeah, still salty about us losing to Serral).

If most countries were deep enough to make it a fun competition I'd agree with you

Not much of a Nation War if half the teams are 1 player and 3 bench warmers
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
atira_sc2
Profile Joined April 2019
10 Posts
July 01 2019 00:08 GMT
#24
I wish we could down vote people so I could down vote avilo this time.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 01 2019 00:17 GMT
#25
Can't wait for more controversy about people getting voted in. That aside excited for another Nation Wars.
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 00:32:49
July 01 2019 00:31 GMT
#26
I hope they take into consideration all the feedback from the previous tournament.

-Change the player selection, popular vote doesn't always produce the most competitive matches, incorporate qualifiers in some form.

-Format, all kill just emphasizes star players, have 2v2s/archon, give the teams more strategic power (proleague) format.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 00:34:56
July 01 2019 00:34 GMT
#27
On July 01 2019 09:31 JabuSeika wrote:
I hope they take into consideration all the feedback from the previous tournament.

-Change the player selection, popular vote doesn't always produce the most competitive matches, incorporate qualifiers in some form.

-Format, all kill just emphasizes star players, have 2v2s/archon, give the teams more strategic power (proleague) format.


Agreed for the format but asking for qualifier seems nothing more than entilted spectators who don't realize how it is hard to organize qualifiers per country.
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
July 01 2019 00:53 GMT
#28
On July 01 2019 09:34 stilt wrote:
Agreed for the format but asking for qualifier seems nothing more than entilted spectators who don't realize how it is hard to organize qualifiers per country.


I know. I mean if they want to make it a crowdfunding goal, I'll put my money in.
stakiman
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria42 Posts
July 01 2019 02:58 GMT
#29
Great initiative once again! Vote me for me for Bulgaria~ tyty :D
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maikacat
Profile Joined March 2017
22 Posts
July 01 2019 03:25 GMT
#30
long waiting for this !!!!
CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
July 01 2019 04:13 GMT
#31
Excellent! This will be a great tourney - really looking forward to it!
https://www.twitch.tv/CreightonOlsen
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
July 01 2019 04:22 GMT
#32
Hopefully people don't troll and put avilo onto team USA. Ruined the tournament for me last year.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Koivusto
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Finland542 Posts
July 01 2019 04:39 GMT
#33
On July 01 2019 05:18 Ej_ wrote:
VOTE IN LUOLIS FOR FINLAND


fi LUOLIS fi

He's GM?
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Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
July 01 2019 05:37 GMT
#34
On July 01 2019 09:06 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 08:24 Parrek wrote:
On July 01 2019 06:03 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Yay, I'm hyped. Still not keen on you guys using the same format though (same complaints as for previous editions - too much focus on star players instead of team effort with this 3 player all kill thing, kind of destroys the buzz for me... and yeah, still salty about us losing to Serral).

If most countries were deep enough to make it a fun competition I'd agree with you

Not much of a Nation War if half the teams are 1 player and 3 bench warmers


Not much of a Nation War if more than half the teams go out 1-4 because they only have one legit good player
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
July 01 2019 05:56 GMT
#35
Will Serral play as a separate country or as a part of Finland?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 06:06:10
July 01 2019 06:05 GMT
#36
On July 01 2019 14:56 RaFox17 wrote:
Will Serral play as a separate country or as a part of Finland?


As part of Finland. Else you would have too many countries

- Classic
- Maru
- Stats
- TY

etc... would be fun though :p Oh wait; That's called Blizzcon :p
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Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 06:13:12
July 01 2019 06:11 GMT
#37
On July 01 2019 14:37 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 09:06 Ej_ wrote:
On July 01 2019 08:24 Parrek wrote:
On July 01 2019 06:03 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Yay, I'm hyped. Still not keen on you guys using the same format though (same complaints as for previous editions - too much focus on star players instead of team effort with this 3 player all kill thing, kind of destroys the buzz for me... and yeah, still salty about us losing to Serral).

If most countries were deep enough to make it a fun competition I'd agree with you

Not much of a Nation War if half the teams are 1 player and 3 bench warmers


Not much of a Nation War if more than half the teams go out 1-4 because they only have one legit good player


Except that this is not what is happening. Nations like Italy and Finland make it super deep in the tournament despite having only a single top tier player.
Italy made it to the playoffs with their only wins coming from Raynor, none of their other players won a single map.
Finland made it to the semifinals with only 1 map win coming from a player other than Serral.
And the same can be said for dozens of other instances where a nation advanced to the playoffs on the back of a single player.
Let's be real here: It's going to be Team Serral instead of Team Finland, it's going to be Team Raynor instead of Team Italy, and so forth. Not much of a Nation Wars if you ask me.
All-Kill format will be a hard nope for me, which is unfortunate. It's not a good format to determine which is the better team. All it does is determine which team has the better star player.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 01 2019 06:57 GMT
#38
On July 01 2019 13:39 Koivusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 05:18 Ej_ wrote:
VOTE IN LUOLIS FOR FINLAND


fi LUOLIS fi

He's GM?

He has reached GM this season.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33629 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 07:14:25
July 01 2019 07:09 GMT
#39
Public voting has always been a source of much fun and drama in the past, whether it was the joke-voting* for Avilo in NW5 or Kelazhur leveraging non-SC2 influencers in Brazil for GSL vs. The World. I'm curious to see how it plays out this time around...

*Apologies to serious Avilo fans
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
July 01 2019 07:21 GMT
#40
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