On April 03 2019 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: I think Inno and soO deserve to be higher considering they won the only big tournaments right now. Maru at #2 is a bit confusing on the other hand considering he bombed out at IEM and WESG. Good to see Dark at the top.
If bombing out means making top3 and losing to the eventual winner while still taking home 20k USD, I wish Maru would bomb out of all his tournament.
On April 03 2019 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: I think Inno and soO deserve to be higher considering they won the only big tournaments right now. Maru at #2 is a bit confusing on the other hand considering he bombed out at IEM and WESG. Good to see Dark at the top.
If bombing out means making top3 and losing to the eventual winner while still taking home 20k USD, I wish Maru would bomb out of all his tournament.
I mean, he lost to the first decent opponent he faced
Once again, I don't feel this power ranking has the best timing, I'd have at least waited five days for Code S' semifinals and WCS Winter's offline phase to be played.
Dark can be first out of his consistency while Maru is placed too high; soO went back to sixth place with just two losses, I still think Serral should have been first in the previous Power Ranking.
On April 03 2019 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: I think Inno and soO deserve to be higher considering they won the only big tournaments right now. Maru at #2 is a bit confusing on the other hand considering he bombed out at IEM and WESG. Good to see Dark at the top.
If bombing out means making top3 and losing to the eventual winner while still taking home 20k USD, I wish Maru would bomb out of all his tournament.
I mean, he lost to the first decent opponent he faced
Same could be said of Serral and Dark at WeSG. And Neeb is a decent opponent imo
On April 03 2019 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: I think Inno and soO deserve to be higher considering they won the only big tournaments right now. Maru at #2 is a bit confusing on the other hand considering he bombed out at IEM and WESG. Good to see Dark at the top.
If bombing out means making top3 and losing to the eventual winner while still taking home 20k USD, I wish Maru would bomb out of all his tournament.
I mean, he lost to the first decent opponent he faced
Same could be said of Serral and Dark at WeSG. And Neeb is a decent opponent imo
And I don't think either Serral or Dark's performances at WESG were impressive. Neeb is good, true - I forgot about him. Still I don't think IEM Katowice group stage loss - WESG win vs Neeb and GSL ro4 justify a 2nd place ranking.
On April 03 2019 18:03 Charoisaur wrote: I think Inno and soO deserve to be higher considering they won the only big tournaments right now. Maru at #2 is a bit confusing on the other hand considering he bombed out at IEM and WESG. Good to see Dark at the top.
If bombing out means making top3 and losing to the eventual winner while still taking home 20k USD, I wish Maru would bomb out of all his tournament.
I mean, he lost to the first decent opponent he faced
Same could be said of Serral and Dark at WeSG. And Neeb is a decent opponent imo
And I don't think either Serral or Dark's performances at WESG were impressive. Neeb is good, true - I forgot about him. Still I don't think IEM Katowice group stage loss - WESG win vs Neeb and GSL ro4 justify a 2nd place ranking.
Fair enough. But you could something similar about anyone else if they got 2nd as well. INno had lacking results in IEM and GSL, soO in GSL, Serral in IEM/WCS etc
Maru as top2? That's a bit surprising to me, but the difficulty of this power rank lies in the fact that everybody got mixed results at the top iirc. All terrans got trashed at IEM, Serral did relatively bad, soO won but lost in GSL, INno and Maru did decent at WESG with INno doing better but then losing in GSL, Dark doing relatively bad at WESG but decent at IEM and good in GSL. It's quite a mindfuck actually to make a Power Rank given all his results, so I can't say too much about it. However even as a Maru fan I would not expect him to be that high. I guess his GSL dismantle of Dear weighed in the balance.
If you look at results Serral should still obviously first. If GSL is weightedly so heavily that getting Ro4 makes you fly up into the top 2, it's basically going to be impossible for Serral to ever get first if there are top tier koreans doing consistently well in GSL.
On April 03 2019 20:53 travis wrote: If you look at results Serral should still obviously first. If GSL is weightedly so heavily that getting Ro4 makes you fly up into the top 2, it's basically going to be impossible for Serral to ever get first if there are top tier koreans doing consistently well in GSL.
Of course GSL is weighted so heavily. WCS is laughably inferior in comparison. I dont think it should be rated at all. Even the GSL super tournament and Olimoleagues are vastly superior...
On April 03 2019 20:53 travis wrote: If you look at results Serral should still obviously first. If GSL is weightedly so heavily that getting Ro4 makes you fly up into the top 2, it's basically going to be impossible for Serral to ever get first if there are top tier koreans doing consistently well in GSL.
Well losing to soO in IEM in a close 2-3 is a thing. Losing a close finals to INno 3-4 is something.
But then losing to both HeroMarine and Reynor? Imo that's a warning sign, and it's enough for him to be out of the top 2. I'd argue top 3 is already generous when there are probably 7-8 top kor that would do fine vs both these players right now, but since he had a monstrous 2018 they give him benefit of the doubt, as they do with Maru generous top 2.
On April 03 2019 20:08 Poopi wrote: Maru as top2? That's a bit surprising to me, but the difficulty of this power rank lies in the fact that everybody got mixed results at the top iirc. All terrans got trashed at IEM, Serral did relatively bad, soO won but lost in GSL, INno and Maru did decent at WESG with INno doing better but then losing in GSL, Dark doing relatively bad at WESG but decent at IEM and good in GSL. It's quite a mindfuck actually to make a Power Rank given all his results, so I can't say too much about it. However even as a Maru fan I would not expect him to be that high. I guess his GSL dismantle of Dear weighed in the balance.
Technically Maru's poor performance at IEM happened in feb, not march, so that couldve played a role
If we go by weighing march the heaviest, I think Maru at No. 2 is fine. His only weakness could be his TvT, as he got rekt by innovation and dropped his gsl series to bunny. I think the only TvT he won in march was against special in wesg. He mightve went 1-2 in TvT in march which is pretty bad
on the other hand, his TvZ is at the very least great (hasnt been really put to the test in march though, as the best player he beat was probably ragnarok), and his TvP is phenomenal, completely dismantling players like Neeb, hero, and Dear (world's best PvT at the moment)
On April 03 2019 20:53 travis wrote: If you look at results Serral should still obviously first. If GSL is weightedly so heavily that getting Ro4 makes you fly up into the top 2, it's basically going to be impossible for Serral to ever get first if there are top tier koreans doing consistently well in GSL.
that's how it should be. If you want to be considered the best you need to consistently compete against the best. And I don't know which results you're looking at at which Serral is "still obviously first".
On April 03 2019 20:53 travis wrote: If you look at results Serral should still obviously first. If GSL is weightedly so heavily that getting Ro4 makes you fly up into the top 2, it's basically going to be impossible for Serral to ever get first if there are top tier koreans doing consistently well in GSL.
What results? He has one win against a top 10 player (according to this list) so far this year. That win being 3-1 Dark at WeSG.
IEM ro8 isn't enough to be given #1, especially when he didn't beat anyone even top 10 to get there. Second at WeSG is okay I guess but he still lost 2/3 matches I would consider against top opponents (Neeb/INno).
Even against other foreigners he's lost to Neeb, Reynor, and HeroMarine in WeSG/WCS. If none of those are even top 10 in what world does Serral have the results to be #1.
On April 03 2019 19:20 Xain0n wrote: Once again, I don't feel this power ranking has the best timing, I'd have at least waited five days for Code S' semifinals and WCS Winter's offline phase to be played.
Dark can be first out of his consistency while Maru is placed too high; soO went back to sixth place with just two losses, I still think Serral should have been first in the previous Power Ranking.
Well, keep in mind that after the next event comes next, and then one after that etc. and suddently we're in the middle of the month - we have to make the cut somewhere.
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