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K5
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovenia22 Posts
April 06 2019 13:32 GMT
#81
On April 06 2019 18:54 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 15:33 fastr wrote:
So it seems that Code S Maru managed to prove his doubters wrong once again. It's puzzling how dominant he looks season after season of GSL, yet he's so inconsistent in international tournaments. Is it the format? Is it the tailored builds for the opponent? The jet lag meme?

Maru just isn't as good outside of korea. People really underrate the effects on travel in sc2. If you bring it up people just accuse you of making excuses for X player losing.

Some people aren't good travelers. It can be the change in time zone, sudden change of diet (this can be a big one for performance), or possibly just inexperience competing in that environment. Players like Taeja or foreigners are used to it, but someone like Maru who's used to proleague and starleagues might not be.

Although Maru isn't as good in weekenders as well. Personally I think that's less to do with preparation and more stamina or maybe his wrists. Because even his mechanics look better in starleagues than weekenders, it's not like he's winning GSL of build order wins.


The fact is that if you're given a week to prepare for ONE specific opponent, there are many abusable details you can find in his play that might allow you to get ahead in the game. If you have a week to prepare 5 different opponents, there aren't as many such details you can find. Also, the more you prepare for someone the better reads you can make into their play and you get the feeling when can you be aggressive, when you should defend etc. The fact that Terrans (Maru) get so much more out of the preparation time is because Terran as a race has the highest skill ceiling, while also requiring much more skill to even be competitive at the pro level. The LotV even added to that, which made top tier Terrans like Maru, TY, InnoVation and Byun dominate, while all other Terrans kinda fell off the radar, because they just can't keep up with everyone else.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-07 23:03:42
April 07 2019 23:03 GMT
#82
On April 06 2019 18:54 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 15:33 fastr wrote:
So it seems that Code S Maru managed to prove his doubters wrong once again. It's puzzling how dominant he looks season after season of GSL, yet he's so inconsistent in international tournaments. Is it the format? Is it the tailored builds for the opponent? The jet lag meme?

Maru just isn't as good outside of korea. People really underrate the effects on travel in sc2. If you bring it up people just accuse you of making excuses for X player losing.

Some people aren't good travelers. It can be the change in time zone, sudden change of diet (this can be a big one for performance), or possibly just inexperience competing in that environment. Players like Taeja or foreigners are used to it, but someone like Maru who's used to proleague and starleagues might not be.

Although Maru isn't as good in weekenders as well. Personally I think that's less to do with preparation and more stamina or maybe his wrists. Because even his mechanics look better in starleagues than weekenders, it's not like he's winning GSL of build order wins.


There also have barely been any foreign tournaments that allow Koreans in LotV. There's really only IEM Katowice, WESG (which Maru won in 2017 and got second in 2016) and Blizzcon. Compare that to the number of foreign vs Korean tournaments in WoL and HotS.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 07 2019 23:23 GMT
#83
On April 08 2019 08:03 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 18:54 Fango wrote:
On April 06 2019 15:33 fastr wrote:
So it seems that Code S Maru managed to prove his doubters wrong once again. It's puzzling how dominant he looks season after season of GSL, yet he's so inconsistent in international tournaments. Is it the format? Is it the tailored builds for the opponent? The jet lag meme?

Maru just isn't as good outside of korea. People really underrate the effects on travel in sc2. If you bring it up people just accuse you of making excuses for X player losing.

Some people aren't good travelers. It can be the change in time zone, sudden change of diet (this can be a big one for performance), or possibly just inexperience competing in that environment. Players like Taeja or foreigners are used to it, but someone like Maru who's used to proleague and starleagues might not be.

Although Maru isn't as good in weekenders as well. Personally I think that's less to do with preparation and more stamina or maybe his wrists. Because even his mechanics look better in starleagues than weekenders, it's not like he's winning GSL of build order wins.


There also have barely been any foreign tournaments that allow Koreans in LotV. There's really only IEM Katowice, WESG (which Maru won in 2017 and got second in 2016) and Blizzcon. Compare that to the number of foreign vs Korean tournaments in WoL and HotS.


Those are already more than ten tournaments, Maru only won one; on the other hand there are enough korean weekenders(GSL vs The World included), Maru won none.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 15 2019 15:37 GMT
#84
next power rank maru is gonna be back at #1, all is right with the world again. hopefully soo has a good showing at ST and can remain in top 10
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 15 2019 15:53 GMT
#85
On April 16 2019 00:37 fishjie wrote:
next power rank maru is gonna be back at #1, all is right with the world again. hopefully soo has a good showing at ST and can remain in top 10


Not necessarily. He would be #1 if a Power Ranking would be published now, there is at least Super Tournament before that.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-21 14:49:08
April 21 2019 14:47 GMT
#86
No doubt, Classic should be crowned no.1 for the next power ranking. 2nd place in Code S, 1st place in ST 2019.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 21 2019 17:41 GMT
#87
Unless nothing crazy happens, I actually don't mind either Classic or Maru in #1 for May. While Code S is more significant than ST, Classic has the back-to-back ST wins plus the Code S finals. (Personally I think Classic deserves it more since Maru got knocked out in the first round)
Mine gas, build tanks.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-21 23:03:35
April 21 2019 20:01 GMT
#88
I agree. Right now Classic should be considered #1.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-22 05:10:01
April 22 2019 05:09 GMT
#89
no way

maru #1
classic #2

edit: and gumigod somewhere up there
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