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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 29 2018 01:52 GMT
#81
Logged in for the first time in two years to express how happy I am with this news.

I decided to take a quick look at how things were going around here since I dropped off from checking up on the SC2 scene and was a little sad; especially at how sparse things look with so few actual proper teams there are now. But seeing MC back is an awesome positive.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
December 29 2018 01:53 GMT
#82
I think someone like MC being around is a great thing for the scene regardless of his skill level. The dude has a fun personality that brings entertainment outside of the game itself which is always nice to have. I don't care if he wins championships, and this obsession with his skill level before he's even had a chance to prove himself from both his fans and his detractors is just confusing to me. He's a fun personality that happens to be good at the game. Can't we just enjoy what he brings to the table and not worry about whether or not he can live up to his 2011/2012 status before he's even played in a major tournament since his return?
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
December 29 2018 03:44 GMT
#83
thats fantastic news, but has the region lock gutted the wcs korea, since you don't see much new blood
NA player, go KT Flash, ST Life( ;( ) , IMMvp, EGJD, CMStorm Polt, SKT Rain, KT Zest, Bisu, RootherO, Stats and teamliqiud
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
December 29 2018 09:08 GMT
#84
Great to see !

MC MC ALWAYS MC !!!
*burp*
GmLightSc2
Profile Joined December 2018
Romania3 Posts
December 29 2018 12:36 GMT
#85
I remember when he won with Huk the redbull archon tournament. Really glad to see him come back to Sc2. Maybe he will convince Huk to come back as well :D
High quality noob friendly stream available at https://www.twitch.tv/gmlight
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria836 Posts
December 29 2018 12:51 GMT
#86
MC is streaming right now: https://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MCtoss
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
December 29 2018 19:07 GMT
#87
OH SNAP !!!! I havent been to TL in over a month , I come back to find the BossToss is back ???? HELL YEAH !!!! Cant wait to see him in the GSL again.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 30 2018 18:10 GMT
#88
On December 29 2018 10:53 StasisField wrote:
I think someone like MC being around is a great thing for the scene regardless of his skill level. The dude has a fun personality that brings entertainment outside of the game itself which is always nice to have. I don't care if he wins championships, and this obsession with his skill level before he's even had a chance to prove himself from both his fans and his detractors is just confusing to me. He's a fun personality that happens to be good at the game. Can't we just enjoy what he brings to the table and not worry about whether or not he can live up to his 2011/2012 status before he's even played in a major tournament since his return?

starcraft fans: "foreigners are shit, b tier koreans are shit, casuals are shit, anyone slumping is shit, this game is shit, i am shit, you are shit"

the same starcraft fans, moments later: "why isn't anyone interested in sc2???? is it because the public isn't SMART enough for it??? if only there were something i could do to make this game seem appealing to outsiders... maybe i should keep talking about how shit it is"

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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
December 31 2018 00:33 GMT
#89
On December 31 2018 03:10 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2018 10:53 StasisField wrote:
I think someone like MC being around is a great thing for the scene regardless of his skill level. The dude has a fun personality that brings entertainment outside of the game itself which is always nice to have. I don't care if he wins championships, and this obsession with his skill level before he's even had a chance to prove himself from both his fans and his detractors is just confusing to me. He's a fun personality that happens to be good at the game. Can't we just enjoy what he brings to the table and not worry about whether or not he can live up to his 2011/2012 status before he's even played in a major tournament since his return?

starcraft fans: "foreigners are shit, b tier koreans are shit, casuals are shit, anyone slumping is shit, this game is shit, i am shit, you are shit"

the same starcraft fans, moments later: "why isn't anyone interested in sc2???? is it because the public isn't SMART enough for it??? if only there were something i could do to make this game seem appealing to outsiders... maybe i should keep talking about how shit it is"


that aint too bad tbh, may be people would try this game to find out why sc2 players keep playing this game despite everything related to it is shit
unique game needs unique marketing
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-31 04:56:46
December 31 2018 04:56 GMT
#90
MC was always fun to see. I am happy that we will probably get to see at least a bit more of him in the future.

On December 29 2018 10:52 -Celestial- wrote:
Logged in for the first time in two years to express how happy I am with this news.

I decided to take a quick look at how things were going around here since I dropped off from checking up on the SC2 scene and was a little sad; especially at how sparse things look with so few actual proper teams there are now. But seeing MC back is an awesome positive.


It feels like the Korean progamer scene has shrunk quite a bit and the foreigner scene isn't really getting much new blood as well. However, viewership has been on the upswing this year and there are still a ton of minor and medium tournaments. I visit TL nearly daily and I feel like there is some tourney going on and being streamed basically every single day.
The Korean scene is nowhere close to what it used to be in WoL and major tournaments are quite rare outside of Blizzard sponsored ones, but sc2 is still alive and kicking, and it looks like it still has at least a couple more years of top level progaming in it.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 31 2018 12:15 GMT
#91
uhh amazing!! welcome back! <3
JAG.war
Profile Joined May 2010
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-31 12:42:21
December 31 2018 12:41 GMT
#92
On December 29 2018 10:35 Darth Caedus wrote:
All you smart ass commentators just go look up career winnings for SC2, then go look up all the most memorable moments in SC2 history. The man is an icon. If he has ANY impact on the pro scene it's a gift. I wish him all the best of luck. Any impact MC has on the scene can only be positive.


Thank you.

No matter what race you play, MC is amazing for SC2. We should be thankful and root for him to have the same impact as before.
sOs, Parting, MC and JAGW.
BadHabits
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada45 Posts
January 01 2019 07:13 GMT
#93
he's already 6150 MMR on Korea ... his play is pretty on point still.
i'm just here to have fun
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 01 2019 19:31 GMT
#94
On January 01 2019 16:13 BadHabits wrote:
he's already 6150 MMR on Korea ... his play is pretty on point still.

His style was always good for the ladder, let's wait for his skills outside of ladder If there\s any chance, the silence is way too long.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
TheWildShooter
Profile Joined September 2011
79 Posts
January 01 2019 19:44 GMT
#95
On January 02 2019 04:31 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2019 16:13 BadHabits wrote:
he's already 6150 MMR on Korea ... his play is pretty on point still.

His style was always good for the ladder, let's wait for his skills outside of ladder If there\s any chance, the silence is way too long.

From what I've seen from his stream he doesn't seem very familiar with the modern meta, and his builds aren't optimal but damn, his mechanics are still top-notch after so many years of retirement.
oGsMC <3
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
January 01 2019 22:13 GMT
#96
His stream is really fun to watch because he does so much weird stuff that nobody else seems to do. Him not really knowing the meta is actually a cool thing because we get to see a lot of new strategies that we wouldn't otherwise see.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 02 2019 09:12 GMT
#97
On January 02 2019 04:44 TheWildShooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2019 04:31 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 01 2019 16:13 BadHabits wrote:
he's already 6150 MMR on Korea ... his play is pretty on point still.

His style was always good for the ladder, let's wait for his skills outside of ladder If there\s any chance, the silence is way too long.

From what I've seen from his stream he doesn't seem very familiar with the modern meta, and his builds aren't optimal but damn, his mechanics are still top-notch after so many years of retirement.

Class is permanent
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 03 2019 08:30 GMT
#98
lets be real, if Maru can win 3 GSL's be cheesing his was to the top, MC will wreck any newer SC2 players and most foreigners if not all of them.
Squitle-MC-Parting-Major-Polt
orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
January 03 2019 08:39 GMT
#99
On December 31 2018 13:56 ggrrg wrote:
MC was always fun to see. I am happy that we will probably get to see at least a bit more of him in the future.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2018 10:52 -Celestial- wrote:
Logged in for the first time in two years to express how happy I am with this news.

I decided to take a quick look at how things were going around here since I dropped off from checking up on the SC2 scene and was a little sad; especially at how sparse things look with so few actual proper teams there are now. But seeing MC back is an awesome positive.


It feels like the Korean progamer scene has shrunk quite a bit and the foreigner scene isn't really getting much new blood as well. However, viewership has been on the upswing this year and there are still a ton of minor and medium tournaments. I visit TL nearly daily and I feel like there is some tourney going on and being streamed basically every single day.
The Korean scene is nowhere close to what it used to be in WoL and major tournaments are quite rare outside of Blizzard sponsored ones, but sc2 is still alive and kicking, and it looks like it still has at least a couple more years of top level progaming in it.




ive been watching since the first year of WoL and i can honestly say its blizzards fault for the state of korea is in right now. if they left them alone to do their own thing but still did WCS for NA and EU it would have been fine, but blizzards hostile takeover of its esports is the sole reason Korea was so casterized. we have no code b anymore thanks to them. and who the fuck cares about challenger or whatever. i stopped watching after the 3rd reboot of WCS system and LotV took over. im back now, but thats because i could care less about any other esport.
Squitle-MC-Parting-Major-Polt
Gianttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
January 04 2019 09:41 GMT
#100
That is awesome! We're going to see great games from him.
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