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argonautdice
Canada2722 Posts
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On November 13 2018 21:00 Kimb3r wrote: You seem to be ignorant, because organizations like Ting or O'Gaming are no real teams but more personal sponsorships.. there are indeed very few real teams these days.. sadly a team leagues were never really promoted in SC2. Yeah, this is exactly why I didn't include those orgs in my actual list of 11 real teams which I really wouldn't call "very few". | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
He said that they were quite successful in drawing the attention of Chinese esports organizations back to SC2, Because SC2 pros have surprisingly large fanbase considering it is a so-called deadgame. so they are much better value (lower salary and don't need to take care of a whole team) comparing with the big esports like lol, dota, CS, or pubg etc. TIME's top 4 finish in WCS helps them alot. He also said that if there are enough teams and players next year, they are planning to run a team league like SPL. As the result, Chinese organizations are going to recruit some foreign player in the near future, just like Scarlett joining newbee. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On November 14 2018 01:20 fronkschnonk wrote: Yeah, this is exactly why I didn't include those orgs in my actual list of 11 real teams which I really wouldn't call "very few". I mean, the definition of team has to be a little stretched here. Usually I'd consider it only a team if they practice together in a teamhouse and compete in teamleagues. Since there aren't really any teamleagues and teamhouses don't make sense in the current environment I'd consider most of those "teams" just sponsorships. Yes some organizations sponsor multiple players but that doesn't really make it a team. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On November 14 2018 03:44 Charoisaur wrote: I mean, the definition of team has to be a little stretched here. Usually I'd consider it only a team if they practice together in a teamhouse and compete in teamleagues. Since there aren't really any teamleagues and teamhouses don't make sense in the current environment I'd consider most of those "teams" just sponsorships. Yes some organizations sponsor multiple players but that doesn't really make it a team. Well, according to this definition we hardly ever had any team outside of Korea, with EG being the only exception. I think a team is naturally not as much tied together in a 1v1-game. But there are team aspects nonetheless. Players of the same team will be more likely to support each other in training, will discuss meta more intense than with other players and will think together about preparation for important matches. And if they are on an offline event together they'll probably give each other advice and moral support and stuff. It's probably more like tour de france or national teams in olympic games: without a team it would be a lot harder to perform well but in the end every participant is on their own. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On November 14 2018 06:07 fronkschnonk wrote: Well, according to this definition we hardly ever had any team outside of Korea, with EG being the only exception. I think a team is naturally not as much tied together in a 1v1-game. But there are team aspects nonetheless. Players of the same team will be more likely to support each other in training, will discuss meta more intense than with other players and will think together about preparation for important matches. And if they are on an offline event together they'll probably give each other advice and moral support and stuff. It's probably more like tour de france or national teams in olympic games: without a team it would be a lot harder to perform well but in the end every participant is on their own. Team Liquid, Root Gaming, Psistorm Gaming, Myinsanity, Acer all at one point fit this definition of a team. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 14 2018 10:02 StasisField wrote: ENCE could sign him and possibly have the 2 best players in the WCS Circuit. Reynor could also possibly get acquired for a bargain for them. 4 straight WCS Team-Kill finals in the works maybe? If he has Finnish passport sure. | ||
Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
On November 14 2018 02:19 CxWiLL wrote: Xiaose just said in his stream that a Chinese organization signed Reynor, but he haven't said which one. He said that they were quite successful in drawing the attention of Chinese esports organizations back to SC2, Because SC2 pros have surprisingly large fanbase considering it is a so-called deadgame. so they are much better value (lower salary and don't need to take care of a whole team) comparing with the big esports like lol, dota, CS, or pubg etc. TIME's top 4 finish in WCS helps them alot. He also said that if there are enough teams and players next year, they are planning to run a team league like SPL. As the result, Chinese organizations are going to recruit some foreign player in the near future, just like Scarlett joining newbee. What sponsors do these teams have that want to sell stuff outside of China? They want me to watch Huya TV or some shit? | ||
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
On November 14 2018 16:14 Waxangel wrote: What sponsors do these teams have that want to sell stuff outside of China? They want me to watch Huya TV or some shit? Chinese teams has pretty nice sponsors, they have sick dota/lol teams with great fanbase, for example, newbee is also sponsored by monster energy, intel and sennheiser, just like any other western teams. On the other hand, they are not really selling anything to western audience, the Chinese market itself is sufficient enough. As Xiaose said, SC2 pros has decent fanbase but relatively low cost, which make them a good bargain in promoting the organization. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On November 14 2018 16:14 Waxangel wrote: What sponsors do these teams have that want to sell stuff outside of China? They want me to watch Huya TV or some shit? You're not ready for Reynor own perfume. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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dswarm
United States73 Posts
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Sound1
France93 Posts
On November 17 2018 05:19 dswarm wrote: I feel like his character and potential would be perfect for team liquid! Could be great but TL has not recruited since 2016 except Taeja come back. I love Marc, Dario, Grzegorz, Bunny miss me a lot but I don't see TL increase its roster, even less with a big fish like Reynor. Remember Taeja is the new TL star  | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On November 14 2018 17:01 CxWiLL wrote: Chinese teams has pretty nice sponsors, they have sick dota/lol teams with great fanbase, for example, newbee is also sponsored by monster energy, intel and sennheiser, just like any other western teams. On the other hand, they are not really selling anything to western audience, the Chinese market itself is sufficient enough. As Xiaose said, SC2 pros has decent fanbase but relatively low cost, which make them a good bargain in promoting the organization. I in no way want to sound like a dick, but is there any reason why the chinese pro scene as always been pretty bad? They have a pretty big fan base, a bigger national scene then most (everyone?) and a pretty good tradition of RTS with WC3, yet with the exception of Jim and maybe Time they never had a top foreign player yet alone a top world class player. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On November 18 2018 11:05 Nakajin wrote: you can ask the same question about the United StatesI in no way want to sound like a dick, but is there any reason why the chinese pro scene as always been pretty bad? They have a pretty big fan base, a bigger national scene then most (everyone?) and a pretty good tradition of RTS with WC3, yet with the exception of Jim and maybe Time they never had a top foreign player yet alone a top world class player. (please no one take this hyper literally, i do not need to be told about neeb, jokes are funny, etc) | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 15 2018 06:05 Xain0n wrote: Passport? Reynor is italian and Finland is in EU. ENCE signs finnish players. | ||
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