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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
On August 02 2018 08:14 Boggyb wrote: They were entertaining as hell and that's all that matters in a spectator sport. Entertaining? yes, absolutly. so imo, in a dream match his place is in the halftime show. doesnt matter... we will get a lot of great stuff in the next days! | ||
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dicey
142 Posts
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DomeGetta
480 Posts
Edit: yesss my e babyrage appeased the twitch gawdz | ||
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
On August 01 2018 11:51 pvsnp wrote: Maru would not only 4-0 Serral, he would go out of his way to do it in the most humiliating fashion possible (refer: WESG). Serral's worst MU by far is ZvT. By his own admission he doesn't really know what to do against the really top tier Terrans. Maru's best MU by is his TvZ. A grand total of one Zerg has defeated Maru in a series during all of 2018, and that was peak Rogue with the 3-2 at IEM Katowice. Some people claim Maru relied on Ghost/Raven to beat Serral at WESG. Those people clearly didn't watch the actual series, because the one game without Ghost/Raven was the most onesided of them all. Serral got torn to pieces in archetypal Maru fashion, not a moment to rest or breathe or recover from the constant attacks. The only thing Ghost/Raven did was help Serral survive longer. Some people also claim that Serral beat Maru 2-0 during the Katowice qualifiers. This is technically true, but they usually neglect to mention that Maru was playing the infamous KR-EU cross server. Obviously, this means Serral can win–just give Maru a 200 ping handicap. Serral has great ZvP and good ZvZ. He might even be able to get by some of the Koreans. But against the Korean Terrans? I'd be surprised if Serral managed to take a game off Inno, let alone Maru. I agree that Maru would win against Serral and it wouldn't be close but I could see serral winning 1-2 games if he came prepared. But it shouldn't be too hard for Maru because Serral has so few experience against good Terran players. Saying Serral could possibly maybe take games of good koreans in ZvP and ZvZ is just stupid tho. The couple times he have had chance to play against koreans he has done well winning against classic, zest, trap, rogue maybe couple more top players that I don't remember. What more can you ask for? He is very solid compared to other foreigners and plays still different than top korean zergs like Dark, soO, Rogue etc so koreans might have hard time adapting to his style. | ||
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Jealous
10392 Posts
On August 03 2018 01:58 Darrkhan wrote: I agree that Maru would win against Serral and it wouldn't be close but I could see serral winning 1-2 games if he came prepared. But it shouldn't be too hard for Maru because Serral has so few experience against good Terran players. Saying Serral could possibly maybe take games of good koreans in ZvP and ZvZ is just stupid tho. The couple times he have had chance to play against koreans he has done well winning against classic, zest, trap, rogue maybe couple more top players that I don't remember. What more can you ask for? He is very solid compared to other foreigners and plays still different than top korean zergs like Dark, soO, Rogue etc so koreans might have hard time adapting to his style. If you were to summarize how Serral plays differently from Korean Zergs in a few sentences, what would you say? Not challenging, just curious as a relative outsider to the scene that primarily only sees Korean games. | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On August 03 2018 03:23 Jealous wrote: If you were to summarize how Serral plays differently from Korean Zergs in a few sentences, what would you say? Not challenging, just curious as a relative outsider to the scene that primarily only sees Korean games. I find this an interesting question. I think commentators like inControl have been right. He's just a little better than everyone else (in the foreign scene) in most aspects of the game. He almost always scouts your build. He almost never over-drones. He has excellent control and rarely throws away units or throws a lead. He also doesn't drag out the game, he has a killer instinct and knows when to attack and win because he senses his advantage. He multitasks really well too and can bring back a game that is going against him because of it. I think of him most like a foreign Dark, excepting one thing. Dark has a bunch of very early pressure builds he can often transition out of, and I don't think I've seen Serral do that very often successfully. Serral does have some, let's call them early mid-game pressure builds he busts out, but rarely early game pressure. Serral prefers to go to the late game if the opponent doesn't just throw him an obvious advantage, and it is a bit of a weakness because it makes him a bit predictable. I can see him being studied and getting beaten like Neeb was after KesPa cup, albeit I think Neeb was more vulnerable to being studied and countered. | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On August 03 2018 09:04 frazzle wrote: I find this an interesting question. I think commentators like inControl have been right. He's just a little better than everyone else (in the foreign scene) in most aspects of the game. He almost always scouts your build. He almost never over-drones. He has excellent control and rarely throws away units or throws a lead. He also doesn't drag out the game, he has a killer instinct and knows when to attack and win because he senses his advantage. He multitasks really well too and can bring back a game that is going against him because of it. I think of him most like a foreign Dark, excepting one thing. Dark has a bunch of very early pressure builds he can often transition out of, and I don't think I've seen Serral do that very often successfully. Serral does have some, let's call them early mid-game pressure builds he busts out, but rarely early game pressure. Serral prefers to go to the late game if the opponent doesn't just throw him an obvious advantage, and it is a bit of a weakness because it makes him a bit predictable. I can see him being studied and getting beaten like Neeb was after KesPa cup, albeit I think Neeb was more vulnerable to being studied and countered. The weirdest thing I've noticed about Serral is that his queens, when attack-moving, actually attack and move immediately rather than pausing a bit before moving. I would say this alone gives him a 20% advantage in ZvT and 15% advantage in ZvP in the early game over your average pro. | ||
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uummpaa
238 Posts
On August 03 2018 09:04 frazzle wrote: .... I think of him most like a foreign Dark, excepting one thing. Dark has a bunch of very early pressure builds he can often transition out of, and I don't think I've seen Serral do that very often successfully. Serral does have some, let's call them early mid-game pressure builds he busts out, but rarely early game pressure. Serral prefers to go to the late game if the opponent doesn't just throw him an obvious advantage, and it is a bit of a weakness because it makes him a bit predictable. I can see him being studied and getting beaten like Neeb was after KesPa cup, albeit I think Neeb was more vulnerable to being studied and countered. i think this is a very good comparison, dark also has no problem with lategame, and he certainly can end a game when he feels he is in front (you can replace killer instinct with "morphing aleph0 banelings" in his case ^^). one difference might be, that while dark sometimes plays with his prey (as seen yesterday with neeb), while serral shows the JD-face at the beginning of each match (which also might give him quite some edge over other players) dark is still the more rounded player in my book, and should the semi happen, this might be one of the more entertaining ZvZs in a while (in addition to the korean vs non-korean thing, which i find more annoying at some times tbh) | ||
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On August 05 2018 00:23 RealityTheGreat wrote: Hahahahahahaha.No one happened!!!!!! TL curse Technically we got a Bo1 of Maru vs Serral | ||
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