avilo is the guy that complains how bullshit that paper can cover rock and how unrealistic it is to have paper win. goes rock, loses to paper, and then complains how dumb it is to have a rock lose to a piece of paper... again... after he knows rock loses to paper. but he markets himself as the best rock NA.
avilo is the guy that complains how bullshit that paper can cover rock and how unrealistic it is to have paper win. goes rock, loses to paper, and then complains how dumb it is to have a rock lose to a piece of paper... again... after he knows rock loses to paper. but he markets himself as the best rock NA.
This sounds like a stereotype of Avilo from someone who doesnt really know him. I have watched his stream for an extended period and found him to be a thoughtful and sensitive person.
No one from my side is botting the poll. I have a feverent fan base that are voting everyday.
I find it interesting once Winter decided to get himself involved despite having zero to do with Nation Wars the polls jumped 2k-3k overnight in the dead of night when no one was online.
Now people like this thread creator or people coming to my chat are attempting to push that somehow my numbers were being botted.
I do not think anyone from my stream is botting anything, people are being reminded to vote for me every single day, and i was already on an upward trend since that huge thread on reddit with 1500 upvotes. This thread is another witchhunt thread, trying to direct the heat that was, or should be on WinterSC to me instead? lol nice try
I'd appreciate if a TL mod can delete this garbage thread as it's just an attempt at defamation. And to the people that have tried to witch hunt me ever since that reddit thread - i'm a popular player that signed up, fucking deal with it holy shit.
On a more real Nation Wars note, i've made a Nation Wars rap if you want to talk about that instead of pushing WinterSC's botting non sense onto me.
On March 10 2018 01:39 Uvantak wrote: Avilo himself is clearly trying to stop it, he wants to win the poll, but he wants to win it cleanly, but segments of his viewer base arent following suit.
[2018-03-09 00:10:55 UTC] burcx000: Just voted again hehe. Tor browser! [2018-03-09 00:11:13 UTC] mrsquibble: am I now supposed to watch bowman or wtf? [2018-03-09 00:11:20 UTC] burcx000: Lmao [2018-03-09 00:11:24 UTC] dosaj234: tor is so slow and captcha says your network has been identified to sending votes [2018-03-09 00:11:34 UTC] ck0101100001011001: nah I want the winter + Avilo match [2018-03-09 00:11:36 UTC] dosaj234: get vpn they return money in 14 days [2018-03-09 00:11:39 UTC] ck0101100001011001: can't vote avilo [2018-03-09 00:11:53 UTC] burcx000: Gotta change browser identity and wait [2018-03-09 00:11:59 UTC] ck0101100001011001: plus avilo isn't good enough [2018-03-09 00:12:11 UTC] burcx000: Yes he is. [2018-03-09 00:12:12 UTC] avilo: don't do anything like botting [2018-03-09 00:12:14 UTC] avilo: what's that saying [2018-03-09 00:12:20 UTC] avilo: when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself [2018-03-09 00:12:22 UTC] avilo: or something of this nature [2018-03-09 00:12:24 UTC] dosaj234: xD [2018-03-09 00:12:28 UTC] dosaj234: but you wont win [2018-03-09 00:12:30 UTC] dosaj234: otherwise [2018-03-09 00:12:36 UTC] burcx000: If John fucking snowflake is good enough then avilo is good enough. Seen many games between the two. [2018-03-09 00:12:38 UTC] dosaj234: jonshow got 2 k overnight [2018-03-09 00:12:48 UTC] avilo: yeah in the dead of night i saw 4Head [2018-03-09 00:12:55 UTC] mrsquibble: if you dont become a monster you cant win something like this.. the reason why you are winning is cause some guys started botting @Avilo [2018-03-09 00:12:58 UTC] burcx000: America probably won’t win anyway. How many tourneys has mccanning won? I’ll wait [2018-03-09 00:13:26 UTC] aaang: Neeb [2018-03-09 00:13:31 UTC] dosaj234: i belive avilo can win just let him play, you wont become tournament player if you play one tournaments just takes time [2018-03-09 00:13:34 UTC] mrsquibble: mccanning so tarded.. its a wonder he is able to turn on his pc @Burcx000
Considerable segments of Reddit just really dislike Avilo, but as he himself says, "when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself", sadly as stated in the copy/paste by users, the very reason why Avilo has gotten to his current position is thanks to the botting, even when he himself fights against it as shown in the logs, he's also benefiting from it.
Also, everybody has been getting quite hot headed from the NationWars poll, please try to keep it chill guise.
I have been seeing the rather extreme dislike of avilo, and it is pretty jarring. And honest to god? It wouldnt surprise me at all if people who just "hate" avilo were doing the same, or very, very similar thing :/
This isn't actual proof of anything. This is just people claiming they are doing it. You need proof. Also, tons of people are voting for avilo just because they want to see him compete in a large event. Some people are just voting for avilo to piss other people off too. Lastly, I suspect if what you are saying was true, he would have already been in the #1 spot a long time ago.
No I dont, I have got what I have got. If you want more than what I have to present, you will have to reach to the NationWars website administrators and staff in case that they can spot tampering with their poll.
Also, Avilo literally was in the first place for a while.
That said, hope that staff of NationWars can somehow check if tampering has happened.
I do not think i've ever been in first place on the poll. This thread is garbage, it's simply a defamation thread, you obviously are making the most idiotic claims, and blatantly lying lol. Neeb has been first on the vote since it came out and still probably is.
It's obvious the heat is on the people that tried to keep me out of Nation Wars through their own scum tactics like this thread, because you can easily tell if the trend continues of everyone voting for me i will be on team usa 100%.
Also, i will be doing a 24 hr stream tomorrow to generate even more hype for people to vote me into Nation Wars. I truely hope the more people that continue to try this negative garbage just get it turned 180 degrees in their face and generate more votes for me, because it's pretty disgusting what you and other people have tried to do in regards to me simply because i signed up to the tournament
On March 10 2018 01:39 Uvantak wrote: Avilo himself is clearly trying to stop it, he wants to win the poll, but he wants to win it cleanly, but segments of his viewer base arent following suit.
[2018-03-09 00:10:55 UTC] burcx000: Just voted again hehe. Tor browser! [2018-03-09 00:11:13 UTC] mrsquibble: am I now supposed to watch bowman or wtf? [2018-03-09 00:11:20 UTC] burcx000: Lmao [2018-03-09 00:11:24 UTC] dosaj234: tor is so slow and captcha says your network has been identified to sending votes [2018-03-09 00:11:34 UTC] ck0101100001011001: nah I want the winter + Avilo match [2018-03-09 00:11:36 UTC] dosaj234: get vpn they return money in 14 days [2018-03-09 00:11:39 UTC] ck0101100001011001: can't vote avilo [2018-03-09 00:11:53 UTC] burcx000: Gotta change browser identity and wait [2018-03-09 00:11:59 UTC] ck0101100001011001: plus avilo isn't good enough [2018-03-09 00:12:11 UTC] burcx000: Yes he is. [2018-03-09 00:12:12 UTC] avilo: don't do anything like botting [2018-03-09 00:12:14 UTC] avilo: what's that saying [2018-03-09 00:12:20 UTC] avilo: when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself [2018-03-09 00:12:22 UTC] avilo: or something of this nature [2018-03-09 00:12:24 UTC] dosaj234: xD [2018-03-09 00:12:28 UTC] dosaj234: but you wont win [2018-03-09 00:12:30 UTC] dosaj234: otherwise [2018-03-09 00:12:36 UTC] burcx000: If John fucking snowflake is good enough then avilo is good enough. Seen many games between the two. [2018-03-09 00:12:38 UTC] dosaj234: jonshow got 2 k overnight [2018-03-09 00:12:48 UTC] avilo: yeah in the dead of night i saw 4Head [2018-03-09 00:12:55 UTC] mrsquibble: if you dont become a monster you cant win something like this.. the reason why you are winning is cause some guys started botting @Avilo [2018-03-09 00:12:58 UTC] burcx000: America probably won’t win anyway. How many tourneys has mccanning won? I’ll wait [2018-03-09 00:13:26 UTC] aaang: Neeb [2018-03-09 00:13:31 UTC] dosaj234: i belive avilo can win just let him play, you wont become tournament player if you play one tournaments just takes time [2018-03-09 00:13:34 UTC] mrsquibble: mccanning so tarded.. its a wonder he is able to turn on his pc @Burcx000
Considerable segments of Reddit just really dislike Avilo, but as he himself says, "when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself", sadly as stated in the copy/paste by users, the very reason why Avilo has gotten to his current position is thanks to the botting, even when he himself fights against it as shown in the logs, he's also benefiting from it.
Also, everybody has been getting quite hot headed from the NationWars poll, please try to keep it chill guise.
I have been seeing the rather extreme dislike of avilo, and it is pretty jarring. And honest to god? It wouldnt surprise me at all if people who just "hate" avilo were doing the same, or very, very similar thing :/
This isn't actual proof of anything. This is just people claiming they are doing it. You need proof. Also, tons of people are voting for avilo just because they want to see him compete in a large event. Some people are just voting for avilo to piss other people off too. Lastly, I suspect if what you are saying was true, he would have already been in the #1 spot a long time ago.
No I dont, I have got what I have got. If you want more than what I have to present, you will have to reach to the NationWars website administrators and staff in case that they can spot tampering with their poll.
Also, Avilo literally was in the first place for a while.
That said, hope that staff of NationWars can somehow check if tampering has happened.
Avilo was NEVER in first place. I've been monitoring this poll on average 6-8 times a day. Neeb has always been in the lead since day 1.
Next time you want to make claims, POST REAL EVIDENCE showing someone actually doing it, otherwise you are just starting a rumor. Whole thing smells like malarky. I wouldn't be surprised if you were the person in chat claiming to do it LOL.
When i started getting the lead again in votes/upward trend is when people started coming to my chat saying these things, and then this thread was set up, so i don't think you are too far off.
I don't think it will work for them though, most people were already fed up with that reddit witch hunt thread and the negativity against me.
On March 10 2018 01:39 Uvantak wrote: Avilo himself is clearly trying to stop it, he wants to win the poll, but he wants to win it cleanly, but segments of his viewer base arent following suit.
[2018-03-09 00:10:55 UTC] burcx000: Just voted again hehe. Tor browser! [2018-03-09 00:11:13 UTC] mrsquibble: am I now supposed to watch bowman or wtf? [2018-03-09 00:11:20 UTC] burcx000: Lmao [2018-03-09 00:11:24 UTC] dosaj234: tor is so slow and captcha says your network has been identified to sending votes [2018-03-09 00:11:34 UTC] ck0101100001011001: nah I want the winter + Avilo match [2018-03-09 00:11:36 UTC] dosaj234: get vpn they return money in 14 days [2018-03-09 00:11:39 UTC] ck0101100001011001: can't vote avilo [2018-03-09 00:11:53 UTC] burcx000: Gotta change browser identity and wait [2018-03-09 00:11:59 UTC] ck0101100001011001: plus avilo isn't good enough [2018-03-09 00:12:11 UTC] burcx000: Yes he is. [2018-03-09 00:12:12 UTC] avilo: don't do anything like botting [2018-03-09 00:12:14 UTC] avilo: what's that saying [2018-03-09 00:12:20 UTC] avilo: when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself [2018-03-09 00:12:22 UTC] avilo: or something of this nature [2018-03-09 00:12:24 UTC] dosaj234: xD [2018-03-09 00:12:28 UTC] dosaj234: but you wont win [2018-03-09 00:12:30 UTC] dosaj234: otherwise [2018-03-09 00:12:36 UTC] burcx000: If John fucking snowflake is good enough then avilo is good enough. Seen many games between the two. [2018-03-09 00:12:38 UTC] dosaj234: jonshow got 2 k overnight [2018-03-09 00:12:48 UTC] avilo: yeah in the dead of night i saw 4Head [2018-03-09 00:12:55 UTC] mrsquibble: if you dont become a monster you cant win something like this.. the reason why you are winning is cause some guys started botting @Avilo [2018-03-09 00:12:58 UTC] burcx000: America probably won’t win anyway. How many tourneys has mccanning won? I’ll wait [2018-03-09 00:13:26 UTC] aaang: Neeb [2018-03-09 00:13:31 UTC] dosaj234: i belive avilo can win just let him play, you wont become tournament player if you play one tournaments just takes time [2018-03-09 00:13:34 UTC] mrsquibble: mccanning so tarded.. its a wonder he is able to turn on his pc @Burcx000
Considerable segments of Reddit just really dislike Avilo, but as he himself says, "when you fight monsters don't become a monster yourself", sadly as stated in the copy/paste by users, the very reason why Avilo has gotten to his current position is thanks to the botting, even when he himself fights against it as shown in the logs, he's also benefiting from it.
Also, everybody has been getting quite hot headed from the NationWars poll, please try to keep it chill guise.
I have been seeing the rather extreme dislike of avilo, and it is pretty jarring. And honest to god? It wouldnt surprise me at all if people who just "hate" avilo were doing the same, or very, very similar thing :/
This isn't actual proof of anything. This is just people claiming they are doing it. You need proof. Also, tons of people are voting for avilo just because they want to see him compete in a large event. Some people are just voting for avilo to piss other people off too. Lastly, I suspect if what you are saying was true, he would have already been in the #1 spot a long time ago.
No I dont, I have got what I have got. If you want more than what I have to present, you will have to reach to the NationWars website administrators and staff in case that they can spot tampering with their poll.
Also, Avilo literally was in the first place for a while.
That said, hope that staff of NationWars can somehow check if tampering has happened.
I do not think i've ever been in first place on the poll. This thread is garbage, it's simply a defamation thread, you obviously are making the most idiotic claims, and blatantly lying lol. Neeb has been first on the vote since it came out and still probably is.
It's obvious the heat is on the people that tried to keep me out of Nation Wars through their own scum tactics like this thread, because you can easily tell if the trend continues of everyone voting for me i will be on team usa 100%.
"Claims"??
Dude, I literally just quoted people from your chat on Overustle who were rallying to using VPN's/TOR to hijack the voting.
Also, Im not "blatantly lying" you were indeed on first place for a bit, it might have been a blip idk, as I dont really care much for NationWars, but I saw people discussing it and sharing a screenshot about it, so I assumed that it actually happened (my mistake?).
Not to even mention, Avilo, I just dont really care much about you at all, overall I still look at you from a good light for the work you used to do back in the day helping Mapmakers test maps and such, and I hope that you do fine, but I gotta say that I find it "pretty funny" that you go out of your way to call that I do defamatory claims, which are nothing but backed up sourced things, and "funnier" of it all, as you can clearly read in the OP I'm not even saying that you were doing anything bad. But that people in your chat were.
First line in the OP: Avilo himself is clearly trying to stop it, he wants to win the poll, but he wants to win it cleanly, but segments of his viewer base arent following suit.
Protip: Next time, actually read the thing/OP.
On March 10 2018 11:24 avilo wrote: No one from my side is botting the poll.
Last thing, the "claims" (more like a straight up copy/paste from Overrustle's logs) arent that people were "botting the poll", but that people/individuals in your chat were using TOR/VPN's to vote at a far higher rate than NationWar's systems were intended for.
On March 10 2018 11:24 avilo wrote: I find it interesting once Winter decided to get himself involved despite having zero to do with Nation Wars the polls jumped 2k-3k overnight in the dead of night when no one was online.
Probably has something to do with the showmatches we threw, where the entire point was to garner votes, not prize money.
On March 10 2018 11:24 avilo wrote: I find it interesting once Winter decided to get himself involved despite having zero to do with Nation Wars the polls jumped 2k-3k overnight in the dead of night when no one was online.
Hypocrite. You complain about community negativity and witch-hunting but still can't accept Winter has his own loyal userbase that dwarfs your own.
On March 10 2018 11:24 avilo wrote: I find it interesting once Winter decided to get himself involved despite having zero to do with Nation Wars the polls jumped 2k-3k overnight in the dead of night when no one was online.
Hypocrite. You complain about community negativity and witch-hunting but still can't accept Winter has his own loyal userbase that dwarfs your own.
this is kinda what is sad with avilo's replies. he usually states like 70%~ of reasonable things. Like, his whole post was pretty much an understandable reply to someone who would post this. But, then he added like 1 or 2 lines of batshit crazy stuff like this.
To the OP, someone stating or claiming they botted does not prove that the polls have been cheated. That is for Nation Wars to look into and decide. Please stop trying to claim that someone in a twitch chat is garnering thousands of votes for these players without actually PROVING they are doing so. A claim is not the same thing as proof.
This thread is stupid, and idk why it's still open.
Lol, this is why Avilo should be in Nation Wars. He will make it that much more entertaining. Think of it Avilo haters: if you hate Avilo, you really want him in Nation Wars so you can watch the beat down on him. Avilo lovers will want to see him there for the memes. This is why we should vote Avilo.
On March 10 2018 15:40 xelnaga_empire wrote: Lol, this is why Avilo should be in Nation Wars. He will make it that much more entertaining. Think of it Avilo haters: if you hate Avilo, you really want him in Nation Wars so you can watch the beat down on him. Avilo lovers will want to see him there for the memes. This is why we should vote Avilo.
Why though? Seeing avilo lose to a mediocre player isn't so different to seeing him lose to a good player. I'd rather not see him at all.
On March 10 2018 15:40 xelnaga_empire wrote: Lol, this is why Avilo should be in Nation Wars. He will make it that much more entertaining. Think of it Avilo haters: if you hate Avilo, you really want him in Nation Wars so you can watch the beat down on him. Avilo lovers will want to see him there for the memes. This is why we should vote Avilo.
Why though? Seeing avilo lose to a mediocre player isn't so different to seeing him lose to a good player. I'd rather not see him at all.
And if Avilo takes a map? He is GM on NA after all. Yes, the chance of Avilo winning is extremely low. But it's not impossible. The community would go ballistic if Avilo took a map.
Put him in Nation Wars and see if Avilo can take at least one map.
On March 10 2018 15:40 xelnaga_empire wrote: Lol, this is why Avilo should be in Nation Wars. He will make it that much more entertaining. Think of it Avilo haters: if you hate Avilo, you really want him in Nation Wars so you can watch the beat down on him. Avilo lovers will want to see him there for the memes. This is why we should vote Avilo.
Why though? Seeing avilo lose to a mediocre player isn't so different to seeing him lose to a good player. I'd rather not see him at all.
And if Avilo takes a map? He is GM on NA after all. Yes, the chance of Avilo winning is extremely low. But it's not impossible. The community would go ballistic if Avilo took a map.
Put him in Nation Wars and see if Avilo can take at least one map.
That failed experiment was already done last Nation Wars when Nathanias was on team USA.
avilo is the guy that complains how bullshit that paper can cover rock and how unrealistic it is to have paper win. goes rock, loses to paper, and then complains how dumb it is to have a rock lose to a piece of paper... again... after he knows rock loses to paper. but he markets himself as the best rock NA.
It should be no surprise that an internet poll has been tampered with.
If NationWars really wanted to know which players to invite, they could have put out a regular poll with registered accounts. Instead they made it 1-vote-per-day, which allows for more abuse/manipulation and it does not provide better data at all.
The way they set up this poll is to create hype. And they're getting it. Good on them, I will enjoy the matches, regardless of who's playing
On March 10 2018 05:32 DieuCure wrote: Tbf the anti-avilo campaign ( overall bashing, Reddit top post , basetrade tournament etc ) is even more unfair than 20 people using vpn.
Maybe just accept the fact that Avilo is hated by everyone in the community because he's a complete asshole?
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