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Charoisaur
Germany16021 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:11 HsDLTitich wrote: Maybe just accept the fact that Avilo is hated by everyone in the community because he's a complete asshole? That's not true though. If he was hated by everyone he would have 0 votes | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:14 Charoisaur wrote: That's not true though. If he was hated by everyone he would have 0 votes He didn't say everyone, he said everyone in the community. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some overlap between "people who unironically like avilo's stream" and "people who have been banned for balance whine", for instance.  Also you are assuming stream viewers watch a stream because they like it, or because they like the person streaming. The reality is unfortunately a little more counter-intuitive; there are people who watch just to get mad and yell at the TV, as well as there are people who treat it like going to the zoo or "looking at the village idiot and throwing peanuts at him" to borrow TotalBiscuit's apt description of this exact situation. Think about it, there are people who watch The Room and Birdemic just to laugh at how bad they are. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:14 Charoisaur wrote: That's not true though. If he was hated by everyone he would have 0 votes I consider him to be a pathetic clown, but still vote on him every day to screw over USA. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
Of course there are better players but I watch stream for entertainment. And he is much more entertaining than 99% of the pro players. And I actually learn things from watching his Stream, I can copy some of his playstyle while it is useless trying to copy Innovation since I will never have the APM necessary to emulate how he plays. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:44 MockHamill wrote: I like Avilo and his stream. Of course there are better players but I watch stream for entertainment. And he is much more entertaining than 99% of the pro players. And I actually learn things from watching his Stream, I can copy some of his playstyle while it is useless trying to copy Innovation since I will never have the APM necessary to emulate how he plays. not to mention you can also learn creative new things to accuse people of when they beat you. most people are on the basic level - "the game is imba, you're hacking, etc". why not go all out and say your opponent is part of a targeted conspiracy to keep you out of tournaments? | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On March 11 2018 00:36 brickrd wrote: not to mention you can also learn creative new things to accuse people of when they beat you. most people are on the basic level - "the game is imba, you're hacking, etc". why not go all out and say your opponent is part of a targeted conspiracy to keep you out of tournaments? Well I did learn to pause right before I leave a game. Sometimes you want to signal that you do not respect his win but you do not have the energy to write a proper insult. | ||
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billynasty
United States260 Posts
Avilo does have every right to try to enter, but I cant help but think he's being selfish here, putting himself over his country. All of this business just reeks of being desperate for attention, its all about Avilo once again... the personality & himself & not about the game or Team America, which imo is what it should be about. And I'm sorry to say but if the admins at Nation Wars have proof that people are cheating to get Avilo voted in then by all means he should be disqualified from participating in it. Just my 2 cents | ||
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KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:20 Ej_ wrote: I consider him to be a pathetic clown, but still vote on him every day to screw over USA. You bring up an important point. There could literally be hundreds of users all around the world who have been voting for other countries' not-so-great semi-professionals, in an attempt to mess up the roster of other nations. What a great idea! | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 11 2018 03:10 KR_4EVR wrote: You bring up an important point. There could literally be hundreds of users all around the world who have been voting for other countries' not-so-great semi-professionals, in an attempt to mess up the roster of other nations. What a great idea! So you are saying people voting for MMA and Parting want korea to lose? It all makes sense now! | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
When it comes to avilo, he is the "villain". He regularly streams, he is popular. Even his haters can't help but watch him. Avilo is interesting and offers a level of entertainment that 99.99% of NA players lack. This entire thing smells like misdirection. Point the finger at someone else while faking a ton of votes for jon snow. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
especially that bit about pausing before leaving games. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
On March 11 2018 03:55 ReachTheSky wrote: The only player on the nation wars usa voting list that I don't actually think has real votes is Jon Snow. He barely streams, barely interacts with the community and from what I hear, most people don't even pay him in any mind(i don't either tehe). He isn't super accomplished either. Seems awfully wierd that he would have so many votes given these circumstances. at least with avilo it's explainable. This entire thing smells like misdirection. Point the finger at someone else while faking a ton of votes for jon snow. Really now? Occam's Razor: People are voting for him so avilo doesn't make it. Doesn't hurt that he also is one of the top US players. | ||
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Xamo
Spain881 Posts
On March 10 2018 19:20 Ej_ wrote: I consider him to be a pathetic clown, but still vote on him every day to screw over USA. I’m pretty sure at least half of his votes come from Europe, he he. On a serious note, this whole thread smells to diffamation, there is zero proof that anyone is actually cheating. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On March 11 2018 03:55 ReachTheSky wrote: The only player on the nation wars usa voting list that I don't actually think has real votes is Jon Snow. He barely streams, barely interacts with the community and from what I hear, most people don't even pay him in any mind(i don't either tehe). He isn't super accomplished either. Seems awfully wierd that he would have so many votes given these circumstances. at least with avilo it's explainable. When it comes to avilo, he is the "villain". He regularly streams, he is popular. Even his haters can't help but watch him. Avilo is interesting and offers a level of entertainment that 99.99% of NA players lack. This entire thing smells like misdirection. Point the finger at someone else while faking a ton of votes for jon snow. Wtf Jonsnow qualifies to every NA tournament, while avilo doesn't qualify to any Maybe people thought he was better at the game and voted for him? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17141 Posts
On March 11 2018 05:57 Xamo wrote: I’m pretty sure at least half of his votes come from Europe, he he. On a serious note, this whole thread smells to diffamation, there is zero proof that anyone is actually cheating. "cheating" in these contests with voluntary voting has been going on since the 1970 Major League Baseball All Star game. | ||
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Odowan Paleolithic
United States232 Posts
On March 11 2018 03:10 KR_4EVR wrote: You bring up an important point. There could literally be hundreds of users all around the world who have been voting for other countries' not-so-great semi-professionals, in an attempt to mess up the roster of other nations. What a great idea! I cannot help but draw similarities to US 2016 elections. Well this thread is just like another advertisement to confuse the voters. Sadly I boosted its prominence as well. | ||
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Aegwynn
Italy460 Posts
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platondas
United States2 Posts
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