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Korea Weekly - Zest and soO's Code S test

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Korea Weekly - Zest and soO's Code S test

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January 15th, 2018 20:12 GMT
  • Korea Weekly
  • .1
    Group D
  • .2
    Group E
  • .3
    Schedule


Korea Weekly - January 15



by Destructicon
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GSL Code S continues with more round of 32 action! This week, it's all about redemption as (P)Zest looks to bounce back from an extremely disappointing 2017 that had everyone calling him washed up, while (Z)soO saddles up for yet another quest to end his curse.

.1
RO32, Group D: Old Rivalries



While we’ve had a lot of David vs Goliath groups this season, Group D also brings its own twist in the form of an old grudge match. In 2014, soO and Zest fought for the title of best player in a epic year-long rivalry. This fight to be the best would continue, despite both players facing different challenges over the years. Now at the dawn of a new year it seems fated that the two would clash once more.

Our first combatant (Z)soO needs little introduction; a venerable paragon of consistency, soO now has as many silvers as Mvp has golds. The sad reality for one of the best zergs in StarCraft history is that despite his tremendous skill and knack for making deep runs, soO has the most trouble with closing out a series. It's been clear for years at this point that soO has the skill to win a tournament; he just needs to believe in himself and conquer his demons. His journey of a thousand miles begins now.

(Z)NoRegreT’s journey on the other hand is at risk of being cut short as he faces one of the strongest Korean zergs in his traditionally best match-up. While soO has seen a dip in his recent ZvZ form he can still be considered a powerhouse of the zerg mirror, making NoRegret’s job of preparing for him even harder. In addition NoRegret hasn’t seen much success in the WCS circuit either, usually having his runs cut short in the challenger league. Overall it would be a massive upset if NoRegret could manage a win against soO.

While people give (P)Zest a lot of flak he’s actually been one of the most consistent players to date. Starting with 2014 he has managed to win at least one tournament per year and has also gone deep in most tournaments he has attended. It’s only when comparing his current day form to his 2014 peak that he appears to have lost his luster. Even so, Zest is a dangerous opponent whom all should fear, especially in a Ro32, and the primary danger to him could be the unstable meta. As such, Zest will need to be on the guard for any early game shenanigans which could jeopardize his late game dominance.

(T)Bunny has always been a wild card in Korea. Traditionally used as a precision sniper by CJ Entus in PL, Bunny has been at his best when he is able to get his opponents out of their comfort zones and then bludgeon them with attack after attack. He resembles GuMiho in a lot of ways, however he has never been able to truly harness his inner chaos. As such, his individual league runs usually end in the Ro16 or shortly thereafter. Bunny does however have a good chance to do some damage in this round. Zest’s traditionally strong PvT seems a bit vulnerable now after losses to both ByuN and TY in his IEM WC qualifier run. It is possible that the mighty protoss has not yet fully adapted to the removal of the MSC, but it remains to be seen if this is enough of a weakness for Bunny to exploit.

Predictions
I think the star power of soO and Zest will be too much for their opponents to handle and they will clash once more in the winners' match. Ultimately though I think soO’s hunger for victory will prevail and he will advance to the Ro16 once more with Zest hot on his heels.

(Z)soO 2 – 0 (Z)NoRegreT
(P)Zest 2 – 0 (T)Bunny
(Z)soO 2 – 1 (P)Zest
(Z)NoRegreT 0 – 2 (T)Bunny
(P)Zest 2 – 0 (T)Bunny

.2
RO32, Group E: Clashing ideologies



While seemingly very one-sided on paper, Group E represents a very balanced and interesting blend of styles and histories; a meeting of the old and the new; of micro and macro. While all players can lean to the side of order and are capable of strong traditional macro and multi-tasking oriented games, they will more often than not resort to some early game shenanigans which will spin the game into a chaotic mess.

First up we have the player which could be described as chaos incarnate. And while we’ve had many wildcard players over the years, none have been as successful or as driven as (T)GuMiho. While it seemed for a while that GuMiho would fade out of existence as the game got more and more figured out, the wily terran has found ways to surprise and confound his opponents time and time again. His lack of a true defining style, coupled with years of experience in hundreds of online tournaments and 3 expansions worth of meta has given GuMiho incredible depth and experience. This experience finally coalesced into a GSL win in the second season of 2017. While he has yet to reach the same heights since, GuMiho has remained a genuine danger in all the tournaments he has attended and he’ll certainly be looking to make an impact here.

While definitely a more standard player just by virtue of comparison (P)Hurricane still plays his own distinct Protoss style. He and GuMiho actually have a pretty long history and are similar in many ways. Both are members of the old guard and played on FXOpen and fOu before their disbandments. Being on the same team has certainly had its benefits as Hurricane developed into a formidable team league sniper, devising insidious timings and cheeses meant to take his opponents out of their comfort zones and wrestle games into a position he can win, much like his Terran opponent. Times have unfortunately not been as kind on Hurricane whose only good results have been a Ro16 in SSL S1 2016 and a Ro16 in GSL S3 2017. Hurricane even hinted at retirement in 2017, but it seems his GSL result was enough for him to consider giving 2018 another shot. With the decks stacked against him he’ll need to come extra prepared if he intends to stay in the game a season longer. He does have a chance in that, while Protoss’ defensive abilities were altered, their offensive potential might still be very strong.

On the other side of the group we have yet another veteran of the game since the beginning of WoL. Unfortunately (Z)Losira’s results peaked towards the middle of 2011, having won GSL Code A when it was itself a separate, prestigious tournament, and getting silver at MLG Columbus and GSL Code S July. Since then he’s been chasing his past glories, at times falling off the radar completely before bouncing back to a RO8. It could also be his style which doesn’t allow him to reach the same heights as, while Losira is a strong macro player he truly shines when he can bring the aggression to his opponents. In a way, Losira plays a sort of aggressive macro, where he likes to attack and macro, continuously ramping up the pressure. When it works it can be spectacular but when it fails it can starve the Zerg of resources or leave him defenseless against an impending counter-attack. To succeed, Losira will need to strike the right balance and possibly exploit the still fluctuating meta.

In many ways, (T)TY is the exact opposite of Losira. He showed promise early but had to work hard for years until he finally won his first tournament. After years of training and improvements and living in the shadow of that KT terran, TY’s skill finally blossomed towards the beginning of 2017 with wins at WESG, IEM Katowice, and an impressive GSL vs the World and Global Finals showing. What TY and Losira do have in common is their love for non-standard strategies, clever use of terrain and calculated aggression. A lot of the Terran’s early game arsenal was gutted in the recent patches and thus it will be interesting to see how TY manages to adapt to the times—if he’ll be able to invent new pressures and timings, or if he ends up having to defend against a new tide of Zerg aggression.

Predictions
I do think the favorites in this group are GuMiho and TY due to their experience and star power respectively, but I can see a lot of the series swinging in different directions. I’m also excited to see how the clash of the strange styles blend together and in particular the potential to have another epic GuMiho vs Losira series.

(T)GuMiho 2 – 0 (P)Hurricane
(Z)Losira 0 – 2 (T)TY
(T)GuMiho 1 – 2 (T)TY
(P)Hurricane 1 – 2 (Z)Losira
(T)GuMiho 2 – 1 (Z)Losira


.3
Schedule



WED – GSL Code S — 10:30 CET
(Z)soO vs (Z)NoRegreT
(T)Bunny vs (P)Zest

SAT – GSL Code S — 5:00 CET
(T)GuMiho vs (P)Hurricane
(T)TY vs (Z)Losira

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Writer: Destructicon
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 15 2018 20:22 GMT
#2
Bunny is looking very strong right now. But Zest and soO are both top 5 of all time and look to be in solid form.

I think anyone from Group E has a chance. TY has made GSL ro8 every season in LoTV. Hurricane is really underrated, almost making ro8 last season as well. Losira is probably dead although he's underrated almost every season.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:29:54
January 15 2018 20:27 GMT
#3
TL writers not buying into either the Bunny overhype or the rematch curse

Also TY's washed up--GuMiGod will stomp him and possibly Hurricane too.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
January 15 2018 20:29 GMT
#4
Hyped for the Bunster
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:31:07
January 15 2018 20:30 GMT
#5
Zest and TY are such wildcards right now. Zest was off the rader for basically all of 2017, but he's allegedly rising back to the top now. Whereas TY is the complete opposite–he did great in 2017, but he's allegedly having a really hard time on the new patch.

On paper they should advance easily, in practice, who knows?

soO and Gumiho are probably safe picks though.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33280 Posts
January 15 2018 20:31 GMT
#6
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:38:04
January 15 2018 20:35 GMT
#7
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm, a classic case of "a relatively unremarkable player getting tons of attention for beating top-tiers that one time, but everyone forgets about all the other times he lost because he's unremarkable."

Since 4.0 he does have a great winrate against Zergs, but his TvP and TvT are kinda terrible:
http://aligulac.com/players/1517/results/?after=2017-11-15&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 15 2018 20:38 GMT
#8
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13970 Posts
January 15 2018 20:41 GMT
#9
haha Bunny losing that's funny
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:46:18
January 15 2018 20:43 GMT
#10
On January 16 2018 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).

But how many Zests is that? And nobody is talking about how the TY and Gumiho year-over-year rate is insane.

The market is so volatile these days.....Scarletts just shot up 300% and Rogues tanked 750% (I totally knew the Rogue bubble would burst eventually, never bought into it).

Bah, floating exchange rates are a crapshoot.
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Fango
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United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 20:49:35
January 15 2018 20:48 GMT
#11
Bunny's mainly gaining hype for his TvZ. No ones TvP is good right now and TvT is irrlevent in this group.

He can beat soO and Noregret at least. I don't know if soO ever fixed his ZvT from last year. (I wouldn't favour him to win the group I'm just saying he has a good chance)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
January 15 2018 21:23 GMT
#12
for some reason i chose both Bunny and Hurricane to advance from their groups, idk what i was thinking
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 15 2018 21:36 GMT
#13
Who is editor Park btw? I don't recall seeing any articles edited by him before.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 16 2018 00:02 GMT
#14
On January 16 2018 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).


Bhahahaha where is this player rating / auction happening? sounds fun
Neoliao
Profile Joined March 2017
China5 Posts
January 16 2018 02:42 GMT
#15
Bunny is improving very soon these days, I think he can advance to Ro 16
Gogo, Dark!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13970 Posts
January 16 2018 03:41 GMT
#16
On January 16 2018 06:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Who is editor Park btw? I don't recall seeing any articles edited by him before.

coach is diversifying his talents
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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation142 Posts
January 16 2018 13:12 GMT
#17
Hurricane will move on to Ro16 instead of Gumiho
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Argonauta
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Spain4903 Posts
January 16 2018 13:54 GMT
#18
Im beting for Hurricane and TY
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Musicus
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Germany23576 Posts
January 16 2018 15:30 GMT
#19
On January 16 2018 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).

Man this comment made me remember FPL.

We need a Fantasy GSL.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
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January 16 2018 15:34 GMT
#20
If TY and GuMiho met in the winner's match (or any), I would give a slight edge to GuMiho.
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Duckman
Profile Joined August 2009
United States158 Posts
January 16 2018 17:17 GMT
#21
On January 17 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).

Man this comment made me remember FPL.

We need a Fantasy GSL.

Seconding, difficult though because folks on your team might just not play after the Ro32. Maybe if there was a way to bet on each individual matchup instead and get points for each correct guess?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 16 2018 19:08 GMT
#22
On January 17 2018 02:17 Duckman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2018 00:30 Musicus wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:35 pvsnp wrote:
On January 16 2018 05:31 Waxangel wrote:
How far has Bunny gone beyond word-of-mouth hype?

He beat Rogue and Dear in the Pyeongchang qualifiers and then herO and Serral in some online tournament: http://aligulac.com/players/1517-Bunny/results/

Personally I think he's overhyped atm.


He's definitely overhyped. LR people are valuing him at 1.5 Impacts even though he should really be at 0.8 Impacts (or approximately 1.2 Traps).

Man this comment made me remember FPL.

We need a Fantasy GSL.

Seconding, difficult though because folks on your team might just not play after the Ro32. Maybe if there was a way to bet on each individual matchup instead and get points for each correct guess?

Well that's Liquibets. You should definitely play!

I was more thinking of having a certain amount of points to spend and then picking 4 players. If your players are eliminated eary on, though luck! That's what ESL did for some of their IEMs.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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