EPTThe Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy - Page 4
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On January 12 2018 08:26 Boggyb wrote: How many other Zergs were consistently beating the Golden Armada? edit: It is worth noting that uThermal also used reapers to great success in his IEM championship though obviously the skill level of his competition was much lower. Rogue didn't consistantly beat the Golden Armada. That was just something Artosis said to hype him up. Even though he won impressive series against Dear/Neeb/herO during that time, iirc he was actually losing most of the skytoss games | ||
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DSh1
292 Posts
Although people talk about Byun as if we were utter crap. He still could beat any player any time. I would still put him on the same lvl as a GSL champion (i.e. Gumiho) and he can still beat any player, just not consistently. To be fair most tournament champions benefit from their opponents choking. When I watch Stats I feel like 50% of his games is his opponents choking. He does nothing and the other guy throws away his army/probes whatever. Personally, I suspect that this is not luck, but maybe part of his playstyle that forces mistakes from opponents? | ||
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scoo2r
Canada91 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On January 12 2018 09:26 Fango wrote: Rogue didn't consistantly beat the Golden Armada. That was just something Artosis said to hype him up. Even though he won impressive series against Dear/Neeb/herO during that time, iirc he was actually losing most of the skytoss games Maybe I missed a lot of his losses since I didn't watch all the small tournaments, but from those I saw, I'd say his win rate was 50% minimum and I'm more inclined to put it around 55-60%. Even if it was lower, it was significantly higher than anyone else's. Artosis was acting like his win rate was almost 100% which was nonsense. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 12 2018 09:55 scoo2r wrote: The article didn't really call Rogue a patchzerg, rather it asked the question and then invited discussion on it. I think Rogue won because he was the best player at that tournament. There is one option that fits better than the rest. It’s ‘Patchzerg.’ | ||
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baabaa
Canada29 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On January 12 2018 11:39 baabaa wrote: Is is unconscionable that This website allows articles like this to be displayed prominently. The writer is a lunatic Biased Terran, who is unable to recognize Byun's abuse of broken mass reaper as far below what Rogue has done in recent months. I have never seen a zerg player handle the lategame against stronger Terran and Protoss races like Rogue. this writer states blatantly untrue things and whines that zerg is imba which is completely false. Take this article down and set some standards for unbiased writing, this is absolutely ridiculous and filled with both indirect insults and direct ones. So I have a direct insult for this writer: Go write articles for the President of the United States, there your talents for truth distortion will be much better received. lmao i love the salt, please keep it coming | ||
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baabaa
Canada29 Posts
--- Shellshock, moderator First of all this is clearly intended to insult the current top player. second of all it is a grammatically wrongly worded insult, so learn some english. third of all if moderators of this forum have the freedom to post insulting comments like this, that is a clear sign of corruption. I have lost a huge amount of respect for those who run this site due to biased anti-zerg articles and posts On another note, you can't spell idiot without some of the letters in shellshock, like "o". User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On January 12 2018 09:58 Boggyb wrote: Maybe I missed a lot of his losses since I didn't watch all the small tournaments, but from those I saw, I'd say his win rate was 50% minimum and I'm more inclined to put it around 55-60%. Even if it was lower, it was significantly higher than anyone else's. Artosis was acting like his win rate was almost 100% which was nonsense. As far as premier tournaments go, Rogue went 18-10 against protoss in the run up to his blizzcon win. Out of those, he went 1-3 against mass skytoss. All of the Artosis hype was because of the single map he won against Stats in GSL. Rogue was however amazing at doing hydra allins and attacks before toss reached the golden armada. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On January 12 2018 11:39 baabaa wrote: Is is unconscionable that This website allows articles like this to be displayed prominently. The writer is a lunatic Biased Terran, who is unable to recognize Byun's abuse of broken mass reaper as far below what Rogue has done in recent months. I have never seen a zerg player handle the lategame against stronger Terran and Protoss races like Rogue. this writer states blatantly untrue things and whines that zerg is imba which is completely false. Take this article down and set some standards for unbiased writing, this is absolutely ridiculous and filled with both indirect insults and direct ones. So I have a direct insult for this writer: Go write articles for the President of the United States, there your talents for truth distortion will be much better received. On January 12 2018 11:49 baabaa wrote: You can't spell patchzerg with some of the letters that make up rogue like the r and the g and the e --- Shellshock, moderator First of all this is clearly intended to insult the current top player. second of all it is a grammatically wrongly worded insult, so learn some english. third of all if moderators of this forum have the freedom to post insulting comments like this, that is a clear sign of corruption. I have lost a huge amount of respect for those who run this site due to biased anti-zerg articles and posts On another note, you can't spell idiot without some of the letters in shellshock, like "o". I considered calling you an idiot but you are already doing a better job of showing that than I ever could. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On January 12 2018 11:49 baabaa wrote: You can't spell patchzerg with some of the letters that make up rogue like the r and the g and the e --- Shellshock, moderator First of all this is clearly intended to insult the current top player. second of all it is a grammatically wrongly worded insult, so learn some english. third of all if moderators of this forum have the freedom to post insulting comments like this, that is a clear sign of corruption. I have lost a huge amount of respect for those who run this site due to biased anti-zerg articles and posts On another note, you can't spell idiot without some of the letters in shellshock, like "o". i think you just enjoy looking stupid | ||
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LuLuneth
30 Posts
That just suggests that it is easy to call him a patchzerg. Rest of the article does a really good job at setting out why this could happen, how the patch helped shore up rogues weaknesses as a player and comparing him to other one patch wonders [byun]. I really enjoyed this piece as a jin air fan. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On January 12 2018 11:54 Fango wrote: As far as premier tournaments go, Rogue went 18-10 against protoss in the run up to his blizzcon win. Out of those, he went 1-3 against mass skytoss. All of the Artosis hype was because of the single map he won against Stats in GSL. Rogue was however amazing at doing hydra allins and attacks before toss reached the golden armada. Premier tournaments might be all that matter in the greater scheme of things, but I know I saw him win quite a few games against good players using Skytoss in smaller, online tournaments. | ||
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Scarlett`
Korea (South)2399 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On January 12 2018 14:44 Scarlett` wrote: featured articles like this make pros lose any respect they had for the site C'mon, using your pro status to try to suppress opinions is pretty low. It might even cause some readers to lose any respect they had for you. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On January 12 2018 16:34 opisska wrote: C'mon, using your pro status to try to suppress opinions is pretty low. It might even cause some readers to lose any respect they had for you. You have a pretty low bar for "suppressing opinions"... "Expressing disapproval as to the website endorsing these opinions" would be a more accurate description. Though there have been way worse articles in the past. Such as "Welcome to ZParcraft II" which despite all the solid research and the statistics turned into a giant heap of balance whining due to being written in the most insufferable tone ever. | ||
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shadymmj
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Durnuu
13325 Posts
On January 12 2018 16:57 shadymmj wrote: i dont think rogue is an S class player (as opposed to soo, dark) but this writer and article are awful. i don't think i've read anything that was not nonsense and fake news from this particular staff writer. You're gonna have to deal with it, otherwise you won't get any articles seeing as he's the only active writer. | ||
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