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The Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy - Page 2

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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 11 2018 19:11 GMT
#21
lol, this cant be serious
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sweffymo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States62 Posts
January 11 2018 19:12 GMT
#22
I've been rooting for Rogue since I first saw him play in ProLeague because he really does have some great ideas when it comes to strategy and tactics, and he always had a unique style. I don't think it's really fair to call him a patchzerg even after admitting that his mindset change has helped him more than any balance adjustment ever did.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 11 2018 19:19 GMT
#23
To anyone saying that Rogue is the best Zerg atm, I'm willing to bet you money that Dark will make it further in GSL this season. PM me for the stakes.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
January 11 2018 19:20 GMT
#24
On January 12 2018 02:15 opisska wrote:
The title has evoked in me an image that I just had to put into actual realization.

+ Show Spoiler [NSFW. Click at your own peril.] +
[image loading]


Piss...why
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 11 2018 19:21 GMT
#25
On January 12 2018 02:15 opisska wrote:
The title has evoked in me an image that I just had to put into actual realization.

+ Show Spoiler [NSFW. Click at your own peril.] +
[image loading]


Why is this a post?!
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
January 11 2018 19:21 GMT
#26
Wow.
What an absolutely awful misuse your recognition on this site for the purpose of player-bashing someone who showed incredible form. Calling someone "Patch-Race" is the strongest way to disregard and downplay someone's achievements in this game, and should only be done under circumstances it is very clear that their race's strength was the crutch that allowed them their victories. That is certainly not the case for Rogue, a player who has always had unique insight into the game and showed amazing play throughout his end-of-2017 run.

Rogue showcased impressive play against everything the best opponents of all 3 races could throw at him, and three tournaments in a row he overcame that.

Seriously, using such an article to crap all over a player who has worked for years to this success (the only KR Zerg to win any premier tournament in 2017), and showcased amazing play to do so, is low.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 19:24:38
January 11 2018 19:24 GMT
#27
Double post - Bad net
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 19:28:39
January 11 2018 19:26 GMT
#28
On January 12 2018 04:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Calling him a patchzerg is such a discredit to how impressive his run was.


That entirely depends on his results going onward. If he follows in the steps of ByuN after his blizzcon win, then patchzerg is definitely appropriate. If he follows in the steps of Life after his blizzcon, then I don't think anyone can claim that
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 11 2018 19:49 GMT
#29
People really should read more than just the last line, are you guys serious now?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 11 2018 19:57 GMT
#30
On January 12 2018 04:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People really should read more than just the last line, are you guys serious now?

Idd, click the ffing spoiler tag!
On January 12 2018 02:15 opisska wrote:
The title has evoked in me an image that I just had to put into actual realization.

+ Show Spoiler [NSFW. Click at your own peril.] +
[image loading]


I Protoss winner, could it be?
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
January 11 2018 19:58 GMT
#31
On January 12 2018 04:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People really should read more than just the last line, are you guys serious now?

And you should learn to read between lines.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 20:20:59
January 11 2018 20:11 GMT
#32
On January 12 2018 04:58 Tyrhanius wrote:
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On January 12 2018 04:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
People really should read more than just the last line, are you guys serious now?

And you should learn to read between lines.


On January 12 2018 04:10 Tyrhanius wrote:
Seriously ?

Why can't we report this as "player bashing", i've never seen something more insulting toward a player, even on battle.net where there is no moderation, people blame balance, rage but at least respect progamers.

For 1 year, only 2 zerg performed on korea : soO and Rogue, and Rogue is the best, while in the meantime Byun, Innovation, TY, Gumiho, herO, Stats, Zest performed on the kor scene.

But last post of the OP was "Maru and Innovation, the last savior of the weak terran race", and now : "Rogue the bigpatchzerg".

It's pure whine, rather post this on battle net.

Worst, it's close to public defamation.


So you "read between the lines" and came up with this interpretation? Not bad! I don't wanna make this a poster A bashes poster B thread though so i won't bother after this post but yours is the most stupid thing i have seen in a while, gz
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Yo_Man
Profile Joined May 2017
43 Posts
January 11 2018 20:16 GMT
#33
depressing, untrue, doesn't beat "the last GSL" but it's close

it reads like a troll, i.e. deliberately trying to cause adverse reactions

would fit better on reddit honestly.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 11 2018 20:23 GMT
#34
On January 12 2018 05:16 Yo_Man wrote:
depressing, untrue, doesn't beat "the last GSL"

You realize "The Last GSL" was an actual work of fiction?
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Justinian
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 20:25:45
January 11 2018 20:25 GMT
#35
I like this article as it made me think differently about the topic. I hadn't really questioned the reasons behind Rogue's sudden rise, other than his obvious increase in skill.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1960 Posts
January 11 2018 20:34 GMT
#36
I wanted to address some of the comments which assume I wrote this article with the intent of slandering Rogue. As a fan of Rogue's, I hope he goes on to have a fruitful career and proves that he is a player worthy of his 2017 results. But there's no guarantees that he will or that any player, for that matter, will see long term success because of a brief period of prosperity.

I think this was an interesting point to raise and, despite it being an unpopular opinion, I think these sort of things are worth talking about, particularly because it's the community, not the players that assign the players their place in history and labels them with terms like "goat" or "patchzerg".
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
January 11 2018 20:35 GMT
#37
meh, If Zerg was strong in Korea in 2017 we would have seen more zergs during that time besides rogue achieving championships or at least reaching the final rounds of the tournament but in reality we only saw one zerg champ in korea in 2017: Rogue and the typical soO second place of the year.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 20:52:32
January 11 2018 20:49 GMT
#38
On January 12 2018 05:34 Mizenhauer wrote:
I wanted to address some of the comments which assume I wrote this article with the intent of slandering Rogue. As a fan of Rogue's, I hope he goes on to have a fruitful career and proves that he is a player worthy of his 2017 results. But there's no guarantees that he will or that any player, for that matter, will see long term success because of a brief period of prosperity.

I think this was an interesting point to raise and, despite it being an unpopular opinion, I think these sort of things are worth talking about, particularly because it's the community, not the players that assign the players their place in history and labels them with terms like "goat" or "patchzerg".

While I don't exactly agree that Rogue is a patchzerg, I definitely appreciate the quality of this article and the thought-provoking conclusion. Of course there are fools getting triggered because they can only remember the last word. Context matters, something which many readers seem to have forgotten in favor of mindless hate.

It's a well-written article, and I daresay that if you changed the last word to "Rich," this exact same article would be unanimously praised for its depth, insight, and wit.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 11 2018 21:00 GMT
#39
On January 12 2018 05:49 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 05:34 Mizenhauer wrote:
I wanted to address some of the comments which assume I wrote this article with the intent of slandering Rogue. As a fan of Rogue's, I hope he goes on to have a fruitful career and proves that he is a player worthy of his 2017 results. But there's no guarantees that he will or that any player, for that matter, will see long term success because of a brief period of prosperity.

I think this was an interesting point to raise and, despite it being an unpopular opinion, I think these sort of things are worth talking about, particularly because it's the community, not the players that assign the players their place in history and labels them with terms like "goat" or "patchzerg".

While I don't exactly agree that Rogue is a patchzerg, I definitely appreciate the quality of this article and the thought-provoking conclusion. Of course there are fools getting triggered because they can only remember the last word. Context matters, something which many readers seem to have forgotten in favor of mindless hate.

It's a well-written article, and I daresay that if you changed the last word to "Rich," this exact same article would be unanimously praised for its depth, insight, and wit.


With the word 'rich' it wouldn't generate as much discussion though.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-11 21:10:31
January 11 2018 21:08 GMT
#40
On January 12 2018 06:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2018 05:49 pvsnp wrote:
On January 12 2018 05:34 Mizenhauer wrote:
I wanted to address some of the comments which assume I wrote this article with the intent of slandering Rogue. As a fan of Rogue's, I hope he goes on to have a fruitful career and proves that he is a player worthy of his 2017 results. But there's no guarantees that he will or that any player, for that matter, will see long term success because of a brief period of prosperity.

I think this was an interesting point to raise and, despite it being an unpopular opinion, I think these sort of things are worth talking about, particularly because it's the community, not the players that assign the players their place in history and labels them with terms like "goat" or "patchzerg".

While I don't exactly agree that Rogue is a patchzerg, I definitely appreciate the quality of this article and the thought-provoking conclusion. Of course there are fools getting triggered because they can only remember the last word. Context matters, something which many readers seem to have forgotten in favor of mindless hate.

It's a well-written article, and I daresay that if you changed the last word to "Rich," this exact same article would be unanimously praised for its depth, insight, and wit.


With the word 'rich' it wouldn't generate as much discussion though.

True enough, controversy generates discussion.

I can't deny I'm enjoying all the kneejerk rage about literally one single word out of the entire article, but idiocy gets tiresome rather quickly.

Props to Mizenhauer though, he doesn't shy away from controversy.
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