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Neeb, SpeCial, Scarlett, JonSnow DQ'd from IEM PC - Page 6

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Chronicwisdom
Profile Joined December 2017
1 Post
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 23:34:58
December 12 2017 23:30 GMT
#101
scarlett is 24 now ? did he/she (because you cant change your biology, but also you can be politically correct) finish highschool ? i understand that being transgender/gay/mental disorders is difficult to be in a social atmosphere, hence the retreat into pro gaming. im so glad this person has gotten to show their merits in one way or another.

User was banned for this post.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
December 12 2017 23:59 GMT
#102
On December 13 2017 08:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 23:13 Musicus wrote:


you gotta love TB

Inviting JonSnow is a nice gesture since I don't believe he's been in any of them. Hopefully he makes something of the opportunity and wins a game or two.

Neeb, Scarlett, and SpeCial have been frequent SHOUTcraft Kings participants and likely have a standing offer to play each month if they respond with any timeliness. I suppose he could try to lob them some relatively softballs (non-Koreans) rather than feeding them to the lions (Koreans).
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
December 13 2017 00:03 GMT
#103
On December 13 2017 08:30 Chronicwisdom wrote:
scarlett is 24 now ? did he/she (because you cant change your biology, but also you can be politically correct) finish highschool ? i understand that being transgender/gay/mental disorders is difficult to be in a social atmosphere, hence the retreat into pro gaming. im so glad this person has gotten to show their merits in one way or another.

What ?

Just do us a favor and consider her a gamer first and foremost. But most importantly, why did you even bring that topic up ? What does it have to do with anything related to IEM or WESG ?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 00:32:13
December 13 2017 00:31 GMT
#104
On December 13 2017 08:30 Chronicwisdom wrote:
scarlett is 24 now ? did he/she (because you cant change your biology, but also you can be politically correct) finish highschool ? i understand that being transgender/gay/mental disorders is difficult to be in a social atmosphere, hence the retreat into pro gaming. im so glad this person has gotten to show their merits in one way or another.


Can you please go away with your transphobe bullshit?

Misgendering a trans person is violent, as is associating trans people with mental disorders

EDIT : Mods be praised
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 13 2017 00:53 GMT
#105
On December 13 2017 07:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Twelve hours later....


Apollo should learn from Blizzard and never give date/time estimates until they are set in stone. There's a reason why soon™ exists.
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
December 13 2017 01:17 GMT
#106
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
December 13 2017 01:51 GMT
#107
On December 13 2017 10:17 VengefulTree wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940589326471237632


Did u not look at the previous posts or realize this was posted 11 hours ago, or are you making a nonverbal point at how we still haven't heard of what their solution is gonna be? So many questions to be had with your wordless post haha
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 13 2017 02:00 GMT
#108
On December 13 2017 10:17 VengefulTree wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940589326471237632

Shortly™
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 03:40:28
December 13 2017 03:39 GMT
#109
On December 13 2017 10:51 billynasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 10:17 VengefulTree wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940589326471237632


Did u not look at the previous posts or realize this was posted 11 hours ago, or are you making a nonverbal point at how we still haven't heard of what their solution is gonna be? So many questions to be had with your wordless post haha


You decide, the meaning of a sentence is determined only by it's role in the langage games of the linguistic community
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
December 13 2017 03:57 GMT
#110
wtf oO
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
December 13 2017 04:42 GMT
#111
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 08:30 Chronicwisdom wrote:
scarlett is 24 now ? did he/she (because you cant change your biology, but also you can be politically correct) finish highschool ? i understand that being transgender/gay/mental disorders is difficult to be in a social atmosphere, hence the retreat into pro gaming. im so glad this person has gotten to show their merits in one way or another.

User was banned for this post.


What a fucking asshole. When someone writes hateful shit like this I need to call it out, it's hate speech and it's bullshit.
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-05 14:02:35
December 13 2017 04:59 GMT
#112
Edit: Extremely well handled in retrospect, props to IEM!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
December 13 2017 05:19 GMT
#113
On December 13 2017 13:42 ShambhalaWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 08:30 Chronicwisdom wrote:
scarlett is 24 now ? did he/she (because you cant change your biology, but also you can be politically correct) finish highschool ? i understand that being transgender/gay/mental disorders is difficult to be in a social atmosphere, hence the retreat into pro gaming. im so glad this person has gotten to show their merits in one way or another.

User was banned for this post.


What a fucking asshole. When someone writes hateful shit like this I need to call it out, it's hate speech and it's bullshit.

Mods already handed down a ban, there's no need to give a troll any more attention than that.
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maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
December 13 2017 05:35 GMT
#114
It would be nice if comments like that were deleted as well as resulting in a ban though.....if first posters are deleted as soon as they make the comment they don't get attention and we don't have to view that bile. Anyway, I am now contributing to the problem myself so will shut up and let the mods do their job I guess.
and he whispered, never more
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 13 2017 05:47 GMT
#115
On December 13 2017 07:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 07:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 13 2017 07:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Twelve hours later....
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940526844008370176

maybe someone is sleeping who needs to give his approval..

this is the biggest broken promise since pizza.gg

Ah the internet never forgets, and SC2 players as well lol.

I hope something can be worked out though. I'm a huge Nony fan so I'm happy to see him play, but this is unfair to Neeb et. al.

But let's be honest, I'm still going to watch IEM PC, because this is going to be a litmus test for esports into the Olympics. Boycotting this wouldn't just hurt SC2, but it could also hurt the legitimacy of all esports games and perhaps esports entry into Olympics.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 13 2017 07:45 GMT
#116
On December 13 2017 07:58 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 07:37 Charoisaur wrote:
On December 13 2017 07:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Twelve hours later....
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940526844008370176

maybe someone is sleeping who needs to give his approval..

this is the biggest broken promise since pizza.gg


I believe you were thinking of eSportsU
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
December 13 2017 08:17 GMT
#117
On December 13 2017 01:18 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Yes, letting ESL know that you are displeased and that they need to fix the problem is one thing. Asking ESL to make sure this doesn't happen again is also reasonable. Some people in this thread were advocating boycotting IEM forever. Boycotting IEM forever is counter productive and a total loss for the SC2 community, especially if ESL is willing to find a solution to this situation.


You really think big companies behave nicely if you are buying their product anyways? Boycotting is the only thing that really hurts them.

People talk about scheduling. But isn't the more outrageous thing that you can be DQed if you might not make it to the main event? I know it's because it is more convenient for the tournament organizers, but its quite ugly in my opinion. (Just because you can get away with having rules like these, doesn't make it right.) The qualification spot should be a right, not a duty to participate.
I could understand if there was punishment for a no-show without prior notice, but that's a different matter than DQing from qualifiers.

At least to me it seems pretty strange. That's why there are/should be substitutes.
I remember a couple of players not making it to BlizzCon last year. These players were not DQed beforehand.
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany153 Posts
December 13 2017 09:00 GMT
#118
On December 13 2017 17:17 DSh1 wrote:

You really think big companies behave nicely if you are buying their product anyways? Boycotting is the only thing that really hurts them.


I believe, defiantly boycotting someone who made a mistake is a somewhat childish behavior. Adults usually get things done by communicating and solving problems.
IMSupervisor
Profile Joined June 2016
Australia138 Posts
December 13 2017 09:43 GMT
#119
On December 13 2017 18:00 Tommy131313 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 17:17 DSh1 wrote:

You really think big companies behave nicely if you are buying their product anyways? Boycotting is the only thing that really hurts them.


I believe, defiantly boycotting someone who made a mistake is a somewhat childish behavior. Adults usually get things done by communicating and solving problems.


In this day and age, business is very sensitive to social media feedback because perception is intrinsically linked to value. Yes it's childish but it works, and you can't blame people for pursuing behaviour that gets the results they want.
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
December 13 2017 11:50 GMT
#120
On December 13 2017 18:43 IMSupervisor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 18:00 Tommy131313 wrote:
On December 13 2017 17:17 DSh1 wrote:

You really think big companies behave nicely if you are buying their product anyways? Boycotting is the only thing that really hurts them.


I believe, defiantly boycotting someone who made a mistake is a somewhat childish behavior. Adults usually get things done by communicating and solving problems.


In this day and age, business is very sensitive to social media feedback because perception is intrinsically linked to value. Yes it's childish but it works, and you can't blame people for pursuing behaviour that gets the results they want.


The problem with boycotting something is that it can hurt associated people/business/whatever which in this case is sc2. You have to think about what can happen, if it is worth to boycott something but at the same time hurt something you like.
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
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