• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:36
CEST 13:36
KST 20:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy9ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15467 users

Neeb, SpeCial, Scarlett, JonSnow DQ'd from IEM PC

Forum Index > SC2 General
174 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 02:59:23
December 12 2017 02:44 GMT
#1


Due to a conflict between the dates of IEM PyeongChang and WESG North & South American Qualifier, (T)SpeCial, (Z)Scarlett, (P)Neeb and (Z)JonSnow have all been disqualified from IEM PyeongChang. (P)puCK also would have been disqualfied but had removed himself from the qualifier the day before due to an already scheduled flight.

This issue was only made aware to the players less than an hour before the IEM Qualifier, and has caused much discussion and outrage on reddit, TL and twitter already, especially since the IEM dates were announced long after the dates of WESG were already known. Only (P)NonY and (Z)PengWin were available to replace them in the qualifiers
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
December 12 2017 02:46 GMT
#2
Best admin ever !

And the players who are trying to take advantage of the situation ...
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
December 12 2017 02:46 GMT
#3
SpeCial has been pretty salty in twitch chat and I can't really blame him though I think he's being somewhat offensive with one of the jokes he is making.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
December 12 2017 02:49 GMT
#4
Major also says that that the admin didn't even know about WESG NA dates or that it was an offline event until he told him 5 days ago

It was announced in August (https://en.wesg.com/en/sc2/news/starcraft-2-all-details-of-the-american-qualifiers)
Progamer
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 12 2017 02:54 GMT
#5
On December 12 2017 11:49 Scarlett` wrote:
Major also says that that the admin didn't even know about WESG NA dates or that it was an offline event until he told him 5 days ago

It was announced in August (https://en.wesg.com/en/sc2/news/starcraft-2-all-details-of-the-american-qualifiers)

He's posting skype logs into twitch chat now that seems to confirm this. He should maybe stop if he doesn't want to get banned from future IEMs though.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
December 12 2017 02:55 GMT
#6
A shitty situation, all around
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
December 12 2017 02:59 GMT
#7
IEM PyeongChang was too good to be true, fortunately they revised the situation to make it seem more real.
TL+ Member
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
December 12 2017 03:06 GMT
#8
very unfortunate situation, perhaps someone a little higher up should take charge of the situation before it happens again (and again)
Year of MaxPax
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
December 12 2017 03:08 GMT
#9
I wonder if the IEM admin tried to reach out to the WESG admin and see if something can be worked out? Because they really only need one of the two events to be moved or shortened by one day for the schedule to work out.
very illegal and very uncool
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
December 12 2017 03:09 GMT
#10
It looks like he just doesnt want to use his time to think about it.
TL+ Member
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
December 12 2017 03:09 GMT
#11
On December 12 2017 12:09 DieuCure wrote:
It looks like he just doesnt want to use his time to think about it.

Gotta get that beauty rest.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 12 2017 03:12 GMT
#12
On December 12 2017 12:08 argonautdice wrote:
I wonder if the IEM admin tried to reach out to the WESG admin and see if something can be worked out? Because they really only need one of the two events to be moved or shortened by one day for the schedule to work out.

Theoretically, as long as the WESG players don't play on day 1 of IEM, they could have made it. IEMs usually have groups spread over 2 days, which makes this decision kind of baffling since we don't know what the schedule for IEM actually is
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
December 12 2017 03:19 GMT
#13
Djsoke
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 12 2017 03:25 GMT
#14
It's messed up how IEM and DH can keep putting in as little effort as possible and still get people in their events and get Blizzard to give them WCS status because they're all that's left. They have a near-complete stranglehold on offline SC2 events. You could probably argue that it's a monopoly because they have the same parent company. Oh well, not going to waste any of my time watching an event put on by people so careless any time soon.
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
December 12 2017 03:27 GMT
#15
NASL schedule guy
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 03:28:25
December 12 2017 03:28 GMT
#16
I really wish the qualifier was changed so that only 1 player of the group playing tonight got a slot. They could have held another NA qualifier, given it to another region (e.g. South Korea), or just had an open qualifier.
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
December 12 2017 03:29 GMT
#17
it would be great if remaining people in the qualifiers boycotted... force the tournament to fix the problem or else look very silly
mutalisks are awesome!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
December 12 2017 03:31 GMT
#18
On December 12 2017 12:28 Boggyb wrote:
I really wish the qualifier was changed so that only 1 player of the group playing tonight got a slot. They could have held another NA qualifier, given it to another region (e.g. South Korea), or just had an open qualifier.


It will be even more ridiculous with the 2 SA spots
TL+ Member
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
December 12 2017 03:33 GMT
#19
Does this mean Avilo is advacing? What a meme.
No prejudices, i hate everyone equally.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 03:36:23
December 12 2017 03:36 GMT
#20
On December 12 2017 12:31 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 12:28 Boggyb wrote:
I really wish the qualifier was changed so that only 1 player of the group playing tonight got a slot. They could have held another NA qualifier, given it to another region (e.g. South Korea), or just had an open qualifier.


It will be even more ridiculous with the 2 SA spots

Yeah. The smart move from some SA players might be to pull out of the WESG Americas qualifier considering how weak the IEM qualifiers will be in comparison.
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
11:00
Group A
WardiTV430
IndyStarCraft 223
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 223
SortOf 115
Rex 83
Railgan 44
MindelVK 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35229
Sea 1719
Jaedong 1262
BeSt 539
Shuttle 364
actioN 354
Zeus 342
Rush 332
firebathero 315
Mini 260
[ Show more ]
Stork 233
Killer 211
EffOrt 210
Hyuk 197
Last 190
Dewaltoss 176
Larva 143
ggaemo 129
Soulkey 115
ToSsGirL 113
Light 111
Hyun 102
PianO 102
JYJ 89
ZerO 82
sSak 71
Backho 68
sorry 45
hero 43
Bale 39
Sharp 35
HiyA 28
GoRush 23
Sacsri 22
Noble 17
SilentControl 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Movie 5
ivOry 3
Dota 2
Gorgc4783
XaKoH 642
XcaliburYe214
NeuroSwarm139
Counter-Strike
fl0m2830
shoxiejesuss2592
x6flipin260
Other Games
FrodaN4353
singsing1793
B2W.Neo1327
crisheroes314
Fuzer 203
KnowMe129
Mew2King49
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 18
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV200
Upcoming Events
BSL
7h 24m
Replay Cast
12h 24m
Replay Cast
21h 24m
Afreeca Starleague
22h 24m
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
23h 24m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 4h
OSC
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.