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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 12 2017 10:02 GMT
#41
I mean you only need to check Liquipedia once to know which tournament are conflicting with yours. How?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 12 2017 10:20 GMT
#42
On December 12 2017 19:02 digmouse wrote:
I mean you only need to check Liquipedia once to know which tournament are conflicting with yours. How?


I guess they knew it all along, but didnt care:

"We are (pre)Olympic, we are special, others have to adjust"

Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
mLtySC
Profile Joined September 2016
68 Posts
December 12 2017 10:31 GMT
#43
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 12 2017 11:00 GMT
#44
I just want to know if IEM knew about WESG, tried to figure something out, but nothing could be done and it ended up with players having to choose. If that's the case okay, shit happens.

But if they didn't even know about WESG and the conflicting dates and didn't even contact WESG to try to figure something out... then I really lost all my faith and it's just pure incompetence.

It's so sad too, since IEM events are always cool, Katowice was great and I know they are already working on making the next Katowice even better.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
December 12 2017 11:19 GMT
#45
Soo unprofessional. Short notice + this. Who is in charge for the scheduling?
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
December 12 2017 11:28 GMT
#46
if ESL doesn't give a good explanation, i wouldn't be watching any of their events anymore. Not even from other games.

I hope others do the same, can't let them get away with bs like this.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
December 12 2017 11:40 GMT
#47
This tourney already sucked compared to what it replaces, amazing they managed to make it even worse.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
amyamyamy
Profile Joined November 2017
76 Posts
December 12 2017 11:40 GMT
#48
Certainly wouldnt be the first display of gross incompetence by ESL
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
December 12 2017 11:48 GMT
#49
On December 12 2017 20:28 Kaizor wrote:
if ESL doesn't give a good explanation, i wouldn't be watching any of their events anymore. Not even from other games.

I hope others do the same, can't let them get away with bs like this.


I'm with you. Principles are important.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 12:22:04
December 12 2017 11:53 GMT
#50
okay, I lost all faith in IEM

they NEVER talked to WESG



Edit: well let's not overreact I guess, hopefully things will turn out.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
December 12 2017 11:56 GMT
#51
On December 12 2017 20:53 Musicus wrote:
okay, I lost all faith in IEM

they NEVER talked to WESG

https://twitter.com/Alex007UA/status/940540914363256833

WOW.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Alex007
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine211 Posts
December 12 2017 12:02 GMT
#52
On December 12 2017 20:53 Musicus wrote:
okay, I lost all faith in IEM

they NEVER talked to WESG

Don't lose the faith, it's never too late! We've already talked, hopefully some good staff comes from this soon.
Senior Product Manager for ESL SC2 Pro Tour
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
December 12 2017 12:08 GMT
#53
What??
Why would IEM schedule its qualifier right after WESG's qualifier. Pretty sure WESG's was announced much earlier.
This makes no sense whatsoever :'(
At least WESG has decent price pool. But it sucks that these player lost a chance to play a special pre- Olympic event.
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 12:15:14
December 12 2017 12:13 GMT
#54
On December 12 2017 19:31 mLtySC wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940526844008370176



Hey everybody, Apollo said ESL is looking into this. Let ESL look into it and see if they can come up with a solution.

This overreaction to boycotting this broadcaster, and that broadcaster is just damaging to the SC2 community. Not too long ago, people say they will boycott Rifkin. And now people are saying they will boycott IEM. And at a certain point in time, people said that about TakeTV too.

Look, you do that, and the SC2 pro scene collapses. Without BaseTradeTV, without IEM, without TakeTV, without all these organizers supporting the SC2 pro scene, there won't be a SC2 pro scene anymore. In this case, let's reserve our judgement until ESL has a chance to work it through. It's bad enough that Pro League is gone and many Korean SC2 pros either retired or quit SC2 altogether, but now we are throwing pitchforks at what's left and sadly, there isn't much left.

Outside of Korea, it's more or less IEM and Dreamhack that are the prestigious tournaments left for SC2. Boycotting IEM leaves us just with Dreamhack, lol. We don't have many choices these days. And neither do the pros. ESL and IEM leaving SC2 would be a big blow to the SC2 pro scene. So give ESL a chance to fix this.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 12:34:16
December 12 2017 12:21 GMT
#55
On December 12 2017 21:02 Alex007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 20:53 Musicus wrote:
okay, I lost all faith in IEM

they NEVER talked to WESG

Don't lose the faith, it's never too late! We've already talked, hopefully some good staff comes from this soon.

True, just an emotional overreaction! I hope IEM can turn this around!

Edit: I just don't see what can be done, since Pandabearme and Cham already qualified.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 12:57:07
December 12 2017 12:36 GMT
#56
On December 12 2017 19:02 digmouse wrote:
I mean you only need to check Liquipedia once to know which tournament are conflicting with yours. How?

I wish this was that easy as you said. I spent 10min about that and I found nothing. Maybe I am not good to find something at Liquipedia.
edit: I finally found it lol, http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Main_Page top right
edit2: thank you scarlett
edi3: I never expected to see online-qualifier events in "major - tournaments" category.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
December 12 2017 12:38 GMT
#57
On December 12 2017 21:36 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 19:02 digmouse wrote:
I mean you only need to check Liquipedia once to know which tournament are conflicting with yours. How?

I wish this was that easy as you said. I spent 10min about that and I found nothing. Maybe I am not good to find something at Liquipedia.

go to liquipedia and click tournaments
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments
Progamer
Icarus2
Profile Joined March 2017
China109 Posts
December 12 2017 12:56 GMT
#58
Still no response from Apollo
MilleudaFolles
Profile Joined September 2016
26 Posts
December 12 2017 12:56 GMT
#59
On December 12 2017 19:31 mLtySC wrote:
https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/940526844008370176

I hope they fix this sh*t. I was really hoping to see Scarlett vs Neeb playing.

LET'S GO SCARLETT!
MilleudaFolles
Profile Joined September 2016
26 Posts
December 12 2017 12:57 GMT
#60
On December 12 2017 21:38 Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 21:36 Dingodile wrote:
On December 12 2017 19:02 digmouse wrote:
I mean you only need to check Liquipedia once to know which tournament are conflicting with yours. How?

I wish this was that easy as you said. I spent 10min about that and I found nothing. Maybe I am not good to find something at Liquipedia.

go to liquipedia and click tournaments
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Major_Tournaments

You are my angel; you know that right?

=)
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