EPTNeeb, SpeCial, Scarlett, JonSnow DQ'd from IEM PC - Page 2
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feardragon
United States973 Posts
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Shellshock
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
- dates have major conflicts with another tournament (which was announced months earlier) - disqualifies players due to its own fuckup and lack of communication internally what a joke. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On December 12 2017 13:43 Fango wrote: What a joke from ESL. Can't believe we're going to have PandaBearMe representing NA in such a big deal of an event. 99% chance they are too stubborn to fix it now. At this point...it would be a little unfair to the players who made it through already. I mean, once you've held a qualifier, you've held the qualifier, and changing that now would screw over those who legitimately (ish) made it through. I think the IEM organizers made a massive mistake, but I wonder if we would be making this much of a fuss if the people being DQed were starkiller or PBM. EDIT:I mean...don't get me wrong, it does suck from a viewer perspective to put someone through a qualifier into a major tournament who's probably gonna get wrecked... EDIT2: Actually, this sucks even more because Special and Neeb (and especially Neeb) would do very well in the tournament, and with only two Koreans, they could even get ro4 or higher if Protoss Koreans made it through. That's a good like 10K+ lost because IEM forgot to look at dates. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On December 12 2017 14:01 FrkFrJss wrote: At this point...it would be a little unfair to the players who made it through already. I mean, once you've held a qualifier, you've held the qualifier, and changing that now would screw over those who legitimately (ish) made it through. I think the IEM organizers made a massive mistake, but I wonder if we would be making this much of a fuss if the people being DQed were starkiller or PBM. PBM and Starkiller don't actually deserve to qualify though. I'm sure they know that as well as anyone. Unfairly DQ'ing the better players is worse than forcing lesser players to requalify. I'm not saying they should just swap Cham and PBM for Neeb and SpeCial, but they should at least reorganize the day 2 of the qualifier to include all the them. That's the fairest way to handle it imo. On December 12 2017 14:01 FrkFrJss wrote: I mean...don't get me wrong, it does suck from a viewer perspective to put someone through a qualifier into a major tournament who's probably gonna get wrecked... Unfairly DQing players is bad for the tournament from a viewer and an image persective. And in this case actual tournament quality will suffer. But it's less about the skill of the players here and more about their own rights to qualify fairly. Any error by ESL admins should fall on those that were responsible | ||
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React42
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FrkFrJss
Canada1205 Posts
On December 12 2017 14:08 Fango wrote: PBM and Starkiller don't actually deserve to qualify though. I'm sure they know that as well as anyone. Unfairly DQ'ing the better players is worse than forcing lesser players to requalify. I'm not saying they should just swap Cham and PBM for Neeb and SpeCial, but they should at least reorganize the day 2 of the qualifier to include all the them. That's the fairest way to handle it imo. Unfairly DQing players is bad for the tournament from a viewer and an image persective. And in this case actual tournament quality will suffer. But it's less about the skill of the players here and more about their own rights to qualify fairly. Any error by ESL admins should fall on those that were responsible The thing is, my question is if it were PBM and Cham who got screwed over, and instead Neeb and Special qualified, would we be making this fuss? If it is "better to force lesser players to requalify," then that's favouritism, and we're basically saying, "because you're better, you get better treatment." Did they really get unfairly DQed if the WESG tournament is from Feb 1-4, and IEM is from the 5-7? I think that the tournament organizers messed up by holding the IEM so close to the qualifiers. EDIT: Ok, they probably were unfairly DQed, but it still would have been really tight for whoever qualified in the NA qualifier to play in WESG in the US on Feb 4 and then fly like 13 hours to get in on time to play Day 2 in the IEM. | ||
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sharkie
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
Unjustly disqualified players dont have to deal with the incompetence and ignorance of the admin in question. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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lechatnoir
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Argonauta
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
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Zephyp
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Who is running this thing and what the hell are they doing? This is so fucking stupid and unprofessional. | ||
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Ej_
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zealotstim
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DieuCure
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