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Neeb, SpeCial, Scarlett, JonSnow DQ'd from IEM PC - Page 9

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pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
December 15 2017 01:20 GMT
#161
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.
twitter.com/ThePharsideESL / ESL IEM NA Admin / WCS NA Qualifier Admin
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
December 15 2017 02:37 GMT
#162
On December 15 2017 10:20 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.


And so we are left in anticipation :o
Djsoke
pHaRSiDE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States752 Posts
December 15 2017 03:23 GMT
#163
On December 15 2017 11:37 Soke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 10:20 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.


And so we are left in anticipation :o


Was the only way to calm down the conspiracy theorists unfortunately :-S
twitter.com/ThePharsideESL / ESL IEM NA Admin / WCS NA Qualifier Admin
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 15 2017 04:02 GMT
#164
On December 15 2017 12:23 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 11:37 Soke wrote:
On December 15 2017 10:20 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.


And so we are left in anticipation :o


Was the only way to calm down the conspiracy theorists unfortunately :-S

Apollo is a lizard person and you can't convince me otherwise
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
December 15 2017 11:45 GMT
#165
On December 15 2017 13:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 12:23 pHaRSiDE wrote:
On December 15 2017 11:37 Soke wrote:
On December 15 2017 10:20 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.


And so we are left in anticipation :o


Was the only way to calm down the conspiracy theorists unfortunately :-S

Apollo is a lizard person and you can't convince me otherwise


And how is this whole thing his fault?
Why so serious?
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 15 2017 12:47 GMT
#166
oh guys i LOVE pengwin i joked around with him in germany alot hes such a fun guy but still ^^ having him replace scarlett feels wrong ^^

iem fucked up dates
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 15:16:49
December 15 2017 15:16 GMT
#167
On December 15 2017 20:45 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2017 13:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On December 15 2017 12:23 pHaRSiDE wrote:
On December 15 2017 11:37 Soke wrote:
On December 15 2017 10:20 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Situation has been solved and Shaun will most likely announce it tomorrow.


And so we are left in anticipation :o


Was the only way to calm down the conspiracy theorists unfortunately :-S

Apollo is a lizard person and you can't convince me otherwise


And how is this whole thing his fault?

Can you really blame him after this backstage picture of Apollo came out?
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Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
December 15 2017 15:23 GMT
#168
Really cannot expect anything reasonable from Apollo.
Also the situation is stupid and it is hard to imagine any good solution.
But still interested in what they come with.


That is very true. They made a decision that was justified under the circumstances. It is unfair to two players (most likely Neeb and Special perhaps also Kelazhur) but World is not perfect and schedules are very tight. Now whatever exception they come up with will most likely be unfair to everyone in all regions. Unless they are willing to change the format of IEM - move dates, increase the prize pool, expand the tournament to 32 players etc. which is most unlikely.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 16:56:46
December 15 2017 16:53 GMT
#169
On December 16 2017 00:23 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Really cannot expect anything reasonable from Apollo.
Also the situation is stupid and it is hard to imagine any good solution.
But still interested in what they come with.


That is very true. They made a decision that was justified under the circumstances. It is unfair to two players (most likely Neeb and Special perhaps also Kelazhur) but World is not perfect and schedules are very tight. Now whatever exception they come up with will most likely be unfair to everyone in all regions. Unless they are willing to change the format of IEM - move dates, increase the prize pool, expand the tournament to 32 players etc. which is most unlikely.

Yes, there is no reasonable good solution now. Not for the DQ'd players, not for the qualified players, and primarily not for the tournament, which was supposed to be the small Olympics ... now, the real Olympics will have Alibaba. With their prize pool.

The best solution would be a public apology, acknowledgement of their mistake, firing the person, who did this stupid decision and announcing that he has been fired. It should have been the choice of the players, nobody would be "DQ'd", but a few players would forfeit their spot ...

Therefore, I do not understand the statement that "Situation is solved and we will announce the solution tomorrow".
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 18:00:25
December 15 2017 17:57 GMT
#170
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/7k1caf/update_on_the_iem_pyeongchang_na_qualifier/

TL;DR: an additional NA qualifier on the 16th, 2 spots on the line, includes the 4 players DQed. This means NA region will have 4 players at the main event, thus it has been expanded to 18 players. The 4 NA players then play each other prior to the main IEM at PyeongChang, with 2 winners moving on to Ro16.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 15 2017 18:04 GMT
#171
sounds like they took the time to resolve the issue as best they could after their mistake, and sounds like supposedly the players are happy too. they also seem to admit the initial situation was unfair on their part. nice

in before (?) someone still finds a way to say this is "still unfair to the other players" and they're a "joke of an organization" or whatever. i swear sometimes even the best internet forums are just breeding grounds for people to get angry about things that don't even affect them personally
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
December 15 2017 18:51 GMT
#172
This is interesting, because the players will arrive on like the 5th of February, play the NA qualifier, and then play on the 6th.

It also means NA players in groups C and D.

Good resolution from ESL, though.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
December 15 2017 21:29 GMT
#173
Big surprise. Definitely a good resolution!
Wow IEM!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 15 2017 21:32 GMT
#174
On December 16 2017 03:04 brickrd wrote:
sounds like they took the time to resolve the issue as best they could after their mistake, and sounds like supposedly the players are happy too. they also seem to admit the initial situation was unfair on their part. nice

in before (?) someone still finds a way to say this is "still unfair to the other players" and they're a "joke of an organization" or whatever. i swear sometimes even the best internet forums are just breeding grounds for people to get angry about things that don't even affect them personally


You called it bud, people are now mad that NA has too many spots.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
December 15 2017 22:01 GMT
#175
On December 16 2017 06:32 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 03:04 brickrd wrote:
sounds like they took the time to resolve the issue as best they could after their mistake, and sounds like supposedly the players are happy too. they also seem to admit the initial situation was unfair on their part. nice

in before (?) someone still finds a way to say this is "still unfair to the other players" and they're a "joke of an organization" or whatever. i swear sometimes even the best internet forums are just breeding grounds for people to get angry about things that don't even affect them personally


You called it bud, people are now mad that NA has too many spots.

those people can't read and don't seem to realize that the NA qualifier basically just got extended
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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