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StarCraft 2 Going Free-to-Play on November 14 - Page 6

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midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
November 04 2017 08:52 GMT
#101
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota

Made me chuckle , nice one.
maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
November 04 2017 09:33 GMT
#102
On November 04 2017 17:43 GSTL wrote:
How about team games? Do newbs still have to play 10 days to open ranked ladder for team games ?


I really hope so. I don't want to play against constant hacks.
and he whispered, never more
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 10:08:45
November 04 2017 10:08 GMT
#103
To people complaining about having payed consider this: It's been seven years in total and 2 years of legacy and ftp players don't get the campaings which are great really. I only got legacy for the campaing and general sc2 support reasons since I no longer had time to ladder. I know there are many people like me.

I just got amnesia: dark decent (which came out approximately back when sc2 did) from the steam halloween sale and it cost 1,50 €.. Or consider fallout new vegas a couple of years ago with every dlc for like 5 €. With 100 h played that makes 0,05 € an hour. Now that's value. Not exactly "fair" to people who dropped 80 bucks to get those but rather just normal market economy.

People who still ladder shoud be happy about this since now there is at least a fair shot for a few more years before the inevitable end.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 04 2017 10:42 GMT
#104
Ehm, how's cheating in LotV currently?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 04 2017 10:57 GMT
#105
On November 04 2017 17:51 -Kyo- wrote:
wait, so every 10 days i can get a new multiplayer account basically?

or even, a buncha accounts and then in 10 days turn them all into real ladder accs? is that right?

Yes that's right.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 04 2017 10:57 GMT
#106
I got the game solely for the laddering and nothing else.

Now that just went free. For the amount of money I put into this game, a little kickback would be nice.

Regardless of my bitching though, this is nice. I hope to see a fuller player and viewer base.
maru lover forever
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 10:59:56
November 04 2017 10:58 GMT
#107
On November 04 2017 17:43 GSTL wrote:
How about team games? Do newbs still have to play 10 days to open ranked ladder for team games ?

Yes, but they can just play unranked team games for 10 days, I don't see a problem there.

In general a lot more people will play unranked when sc2 goes f2p I think.

On November 04 2017 19:57 Incognoto wrote:
I got the game solely for the laddering and nothing else.

Now that just went free. For the amount of money I put into this game, a little kickback would be nice.

Regardless of my bitching though, this is nice. I hope to see a fuller player and viewer base.

We get a ghost skin and some portraits, not much, but something.

At least it's exclusive stuff that f2p players won't be able to get afterwards.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28500 Posts
November 04 2017 11:07 GMT
#108
I like it but I don't think it will change much. A free multiplayer from the start could have made a difference.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Aquila Magna
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany38 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-04 11:59:50
November 04 2017 11:58 GMT
#109
On November 04 2017 04:15 jahnesta wrote:
Its a cool move from Blizzard. But imho its way too late and i doubt that brings a great amount of new players :/

And about this : "For those of you who have already purchased any of the three campaigns as of October 31, we’ll soon be sending you a small thank-you in the form of an exclusive Ghost skin as well as three new portraits." Is it a joke ? One single skin (for only one race) and three portraits ??!! Guys, i paid 120 euros, your "thank you" is a little bit insulting :/


Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, I like they're going free to play, especially with multiplayer and of course you want to hook people with the first campaign and the lvl5 commanders. So strategically it seems sound to me, wether it's"too late" or not.

But to add to your second point: Yes, I think this is a real insult. I bought all campaigns except nova c/o and am also active in the multiplayer. I guess it's occasional players like me that keep/kept the game going aside the small pro scene.

I would really expect more than, as you said, a race-specific skin and some portraits. Especially those are laughable. I mean, maybe one of the new ones is cool and I'll use it but it does not really matter since there are already so many to choose from.

In my opinion the fair move would really be to offer owner's of all the big expansions at least a free coop commander to choose - something tangible, playable. I would like the gesture (and at least in my case Blizz wouldn't lose income since I'm mainly a ranked player and won't buy commanders anyway).
Semper fidelis.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
November 04 2017 12:15 GMT
#110
It's good to know.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
November 04 2017 15:22 GMT
#111
dope. was about to get back into the grove of things too. what a time to be alive
ok
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
November 04 2017 15:27 GMT
#112
I just hope this will encourage more people play ladder. Nothing wrong with that. =)
Big Red Dog!
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
November 04 2017 15:31 GMT
#113
On November 04 2017 20:58 Aquila Magna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 04:15 jahnesta wrote:
Its a cool move from Blizzard. But imho its way too late and i doubt that brings a great amount of new players :/

And about this : "For those of you who have already purchased any of the three campaigns as of October 31, we’ll soon be sending you a small thank-you in the form of an exclusive Ghost skin as well as three new portraits." Is it a joke ? One single skin (for only one race) and three portraits ??!! Guys, i paid 120 euros, your "thank you" is a little bit insulting :/


Yeah, I thought so too. I mean, I like they're going free to play, especially with multiplayer and of course you want to hook people with the first campaign and the lvl5 commanders. So strategically it seems sound to me, wether it's"too late" or not.

But to add to your second point: Yes, I think this is a real insult. I bought all campaigns except nova c/o and am also active in the multiplayer. I guess it's occasional players like me that keep/kept the game going aside the small pro scene.

I would really expect more than, as you said, a race-specific skin and some portraits. Especially those are laughable. I mean, maybe one of the new ones is cool and I'll use it but it does not really matter since there are already so many to choose from.

In my opinion the fair move would really be to offer owner's of all the big expansions at least a free coop commander to choose - something tangible, playable. I would like the gesture (and at least in my case Blizz wouldn't lose income since I'm mainly a ranked player and won't buy commanders anyway).

So you want Blizzard to give you something that you don't even care about. The logic is solid.

People that are upset about game being free from now on, when they spent money on it , should ask themselves - "Did something change for me ?". I did that and the answer is no, so I don't care.
Other than that you are just watching in other people's bowl and are uppset/jelous that they are getting something nice... Which is a low passion.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 04 2017 16:14 GMT
#114
being upset about the game going free after years because you paid makes literally zero sense and shows zero understanding of the monetary value of a product in relation to time. the value of owning and playing SC2 decreases over time as hype and interest decrease and the technology used to make the game becomes less current. i'm actually shocked people need this explained to them

if you pay $400 (or whatever) to have a PS4 on release day do you get upset when someone buys it for $200 two years later?
TL+ Member
Fonze
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
United States34 Posts
November 04 2017 16:16 GMT
#115
Good move; scene was dead. Bring it back!!!
Fonzerelli. On teamliquid since 2004. Finally back. Sup!!
jpg06051992
Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
November 04 2017 16:17 GMT
#116
On November 05 2017 01:14 brickrd wrote:
being upset about the game going free after years because you paid makes literally zero sense and shows zero understanding of the monetary value of a product in relation to time. the value of owning and playing SC2 decreases over time as hype and interest decrease and the technology used to make the game becomes less current. i'm actually shocked people need this explained to them

if you pay $400 (or whatever) to have a PS4 on release day do you get upset when someone buys it for $200 two years later?


400$ to 200$ is half off, 174$ (49.99 + tax) to 0$ is why those people are upset, me being one of them. I'm not going to curse or moan about it because I understand the game is in dire straits and all I want is SC2 to stay alive, but it does irk me a bit that after shifting out a ton of cash for these games, a few years later they become FREE.

Talk about buyers remorse lol
"SO MANY BANELINGS!"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 04 2017 16:27 GMT
#117
On November 05 2017 01:17 jpg06051992 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 01:14 brickrd wrote:
being upset about the game going free after years because you paid makes literally zero sense and shows zero understanding of the monetary value of a product in relation to time. the value of owning and playing SC2 decreases over time as hype and interest decrease and the technology used to make the game becomes less current. i'm actually shocked people need this explained to them

if you pay $400 (or whatever) to have a PS4 on release day do you get upset when someone buys it for $200 two years later?


400$ to 200$ is half off, 174$ (49.99 + tax) to 0$ is why those people are upset, me being one of them. I'm not going to curse or moan about it because I understand the game is in dire straits and all I want is SC2 to stay alive, but it does irk me a bit that after shifting out a ton of cash for these games, a few years later they become FREE.

Talk about buyers remorse lol

money has abstract value, dude. $200 or $0 or $50 - the value of owning something decreases over time. the percentages and ratios are irrelevant. you're just emotionally bothered at the idea of someone else getting something you have for free.

it doesn't make sense because they're not getting what you had. you had the game when it was new. they have it now. different valuation.
TL+ Member
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
November 04 2017 16:39 GMT
#118
Had this come 8 years ago SC2 would be larger than Netflix. Now it will have almost no impact.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
November 04 2017 17:10 GMT
#119
I do and will not understand how people are mad about this because they put money into the game and now it's free, lol.

The roughly 150$ I spent for all the three expansions combined where shaping my last 7 years of gaming.

Why do people always focus on what they don't have rather than being glad of what they have.

I don't even care for smurf accounts. If top GM players are looking to have all 200 GM spots covered by their accounts, go ahead.
Ladder-based tournament invites were a problem earlier already, if these invites would just stop, nobody would be really hurt about anything. I don't care about my rank, I care about having fun and a (possibly) bigger playerbase will certainly not hurt in this regard.
Have a nice day!
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
November 04 2017 17:25 GMT
#120
Hurray!

If anyone is like me - who bought the game, forgot the password to the e-mail I used to register, and got locked out without recourse excepting selling my ID or repurchase - this feels like getting back what's yours.

I've played the (downgraded) freeware so long after losing my paid account that ladder nostalgia will probably make me happier to play ladder in the new (more ftp) release than those who do it regularly anyways!
Et tu Brute ?
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