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NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
November 05 2017 10:09 GMT
#141
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1771 Posts
November 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#142
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

Joke post?
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1893 Posts
November 05 2017 10:39 GMT
#143
On November 05 2017 17:43 FvRGg wrote:
That;s all behind us now, and I'm very glad that the blizzard team have made this decision. Kudos to them for having the balls to do it.


What's that got to do with balls?! They tried other ways of squeezing out some more revenue, saw that it didn't net them enough and ultimately chose the F2P model.
Sorry to say, but as logical and 'good' that decision may be, it wasn't a bold one, they waited 7 years...

I had my fun with SC2, got plenty of value out of it, probably the best game purchase I ever did, but Blizzard is just deliberately trying to fetch some additional buck and silence their critics regarding the pay2play+microtransaction model.
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raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
November 05 2017 10:52 GMT
#144
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

Where's the strategy in Lol? I agree that dota has more strategic depth than sc2, but Lol..please
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
November 05 2017 11:00 GMT
#145
On November 05 2017 19:18 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

Joke post?

Not sure if it's an unintentional hilarious joke or intentional trolling or what, but either way it made me chuckle.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 11:21:13
November 05 2017 11:11 GMT
#146
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

SC2 is just mechanics in the same way that LoL is just mechanics until you're good, this idea that StarCraft isn't a strategy game is one of the most absurd comments people make. You can run around doing everything wrong and just kill people because they're bad in LoL just like you can in StarCraft.

Then again I don't know how I ever expected StarCraft to be able to compete with compelling strategic decisions of playing Draven and Nasus :D

On November 05 2017 19:52 raff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

Where's the strategy in Lol? I agree that dota has more strategic depth than sc2, but Lol..please

Ok the original comment was stupid but there's no reason to follow it up with something even worse.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
November 05 2017 11:19 GMT
#147
This will be super good for the game, it allows people discouraged from buying a hard game like this to give it an honest try! Can't honestly see anything wrong with this. :D
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
November 05 2017 11:24 GMT
#148
On November 05 2017 04:40 EXRNaRa wrote:
Its probably a good thing for Starcraft right now.

But...

its happening yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars too late. Just sad.

Btw:

To all the people complaning that they spend money on the game:

We all had the chance to experience the game, the tournaments at a time that will never come back. With players that are not with us playing anymore, meta-games that will never comeback and just seeing the evolvement of the game and starcraft in general.
At the same time you had the chance to play the games for 7 years, which the other people had not.
Think about the time and fun you got over the last couple of years.

Just ridicoulus to be mad about that. Grow up.


So much this, the years I had playing this game with my friends and going to LANS and barcrafts etc... man i get nostalgic thinking about it. Those times I will never get back the energy the fun the drama the characters... I want people to experience the game like I have and having it F2P is a fantastic way to do it,
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 12:46:37
November 05 2017 12:43 GMT
#149
Starcraft 2 is a brilliant game that deserved all the money I've given for it. It also took a lot of time for them to incorporate all the cosmetic shop stuff that could allow them to sustain free-to-play. Technically I'm sure all that couldn't have been there from the beginning, because: 1.) They had all kinds of problems from the start, with Battle.net 2.0, performance issues, balance issues etc - they barely managed to fix those, late after launch; so no, they couldn't also have had implemented the cosmetic stuff. There wasn't even any arcade at launch. There wasn't co-op that now drives so many players. Improving the editor to allow arcade community development was a huge project that needed a lot of time to grow. 2.) They didn't have 3 campaigns back then to be able to offer 1 for free and hope to hook some buyers for the other 2 campaigns. 3.) You also need serious anti-cheating tools to protect a free-to-play game, because every ban is a registration away from entering again. I'm sure those tools have evolved a lot since launch and this period of time was needed.

I agree with an earlier comment that the decline of SC2 wasn't because of price tag. Overwatch has price tag, no problem, huge growth. It's about the difficulty of the game. It's not for everyone and gamers nowadays are bred to be lazy and lame by the modern standards for easier gaming. That's just how it is. BW was pretty niche in the west too a few years after release, it was only carried by the passion of Korea. And Korea couldn't get as much into SC2, because of too much commitment to BW already and because LoL took the average "casual" gamer in Korea. LoL had very aggressive marketing which SC2 didn't have. That's done already, no way to turn back the past. Free to play will bring some new blood to SC2, it will probably not be a reason for return to domination, but it's definitely not bad for the game, by any stretch.

I'm very happy that now I can invite anyone to SC2 without having to draw them a complex scheme of what is free and what isn't and what should they buy if they need to also add some specific experience to what is offered for free.
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GSTL
Profile Joined August 2016
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 12:51:27
November 05 2017 12:47 GMT
#150
I really don't understand those moaning mouths. I personally bought all expansions and some packs. But regardless of how
much I have spent on the game the entertaining value was much higher than what I have paid for.

Through the course of 7 years I have like 10.000 games played not counting the time spent on Campaigns and Arcades.

This game was the longest entertaining experience in my life and now I am more than excited that finally it is coming to F2P.

If anything, F2P is overdue alongside Blizzard's attention to some amazing Arcade games/ideas.

What kinda shty mentality people must have to feel "robbed" when the game goes F2P ?
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 13:20:17
November 05 2017 13:19 GMT
#151
Best move ever by Blizzard.
This is so great for the RTS genre.

How can anyone hate on this?
I wish all the rts games I love turn free to play so the activity spikes and rts starts thriving again.

Maybe this is even a tool to boost the rts playerbase in anticipation of a possible new Blizzard rts? <3
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
November 05 2017 14:26 GMT
#152
On November 05 2017 22:19 Technique wrote:
Best move ever by Blizzard.
This is so great for the RTS genre.

How can anyone hate on this?
I wish all the rts games I love turn free to play so the activity spikes and rts starts thriving again.

Maybe this is even a tool to boost the rts playerbase in anticipation of a possible new Blizzard rts? <3



Doubtful they aren't gonna make any more RTS for the immediate future I don't believe.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
November 05 2017 14:27 GMT
#153
I wonder if they'll actually get a good influx of new, unique players off this. It'd be nice.
kiss kiss fall in love
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 14:31:36
November 05 2017 14:31 GMT
#154
On November 05 2017 19:18 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 19:09 NasusAndDraven wrote:
On November 05 2017 17:05 midou wrote:
On November 05 2017 14:10 StarStruck wrote:
On November 04 2017 03:33 Charoisaur wrote:
RIP LoL and Dota


This makes me laugh. Since when do you think ftp means people who are immerse in other genres will either come back to SC2 for content they already have done or play something they weren't really heavily invested in the first place.


I think it was a pretty good sarcasm, no one from dota or lol is coming to SC2.


Dota and LoL player here. Pretty sure ill play some rankeds for first time since WoL.

But only a few. I dont think there is room for strategy in SC2, its just mechanics.

Joke post?

Depends on how skilled he is. In my opinion, anything below Platinum league is mainly mechanics. Having a strategy and build mastered means nothing if you don't know how to execute it or macro. Just macroing well gets you into at least Gold, if not Platinum.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 05 2017 14:34 GMT
#155
couldve been earlier, but better later than never

I see for newcomers the experience being in this order:
1) campaign
2) commander modes
3) ladder

After the campaign, the commander modes will be a lot of fun to get into at start to develop the taste for the game, so it's great that some commanders are entirely free to level. Afterwards, people will hit the ladder but by then they already know a lot about the mechanics.

Good move blizz


Life - forever the Legend in my heart
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 15:03:20
November 05 2017 14:35 GMT
#156
Yeah, it feels like they made Commander a thing just to get people to come online, of whom a few may be tempted to ladder again. Still, if it gets anyone back into the game, it'll help. I think that was also the inspiration behind the spawn mode as well, right? Where everyone gets content as long as someone gets content.
kiss kiss fall in love
NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 15:06:03
November 05 2017 15:03 GMT
#157
On November 05 2017 23:26 Shakattak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 22:19 Technique wrote:
Best move ever by Blizzard.
This is so great for the RTS genre.

How can anyone hate on this?
I wish all the rts games I love turn free to play so the activity spikes and rts starts thriving again.

Maybe this is even a tool to boost the rts playerbase in anticipation of a possible new Blizzard rts? <3



Doubtful they aren't gonna make any more RTS for the immediate future I don't believe.


Yep. From how Blizzard been acting lately, they will make games of already popular genres. And I really dont see a 7 year old game going free to play reviving the RTS scene. Age of Empires Online was pseudo f2p and it died in less than a year.

They already made the few easy bucks with BW remastered, I would be suprised if they make a new RTS game within the next 5 years.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 15:06:33
November 05 2017 15:05 GMT
#158
On November 06 2017 00:03 NasusAndDraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 23:26 Shakattak wrote:
On November 05 2017 22:19 Technique wrote:
Best move ever by Blizzard.
This is so great for the RTS genre.

How can anyone hate on this?
I wish all the rts games I love turn free to play so the activity spikes and rts starts thriving again.

Maybe this is even a tool to boost the rts playerbase in anticipation of a possible new Blizzard rts? <3



Doubtful they aren't gonna make any more RTS for the immediate future I don't believe.


Yep. From how Blizzard been acting lately, they will make games of already popular genres. And I really dont see a 7 year old game going free to play reviving the RTS scene.

They already made the few easy bucks with BW remastered, I would be suprised if they make a new RTS game within the next 5 years.

It's likely they'd want a story to go with it, and it's also possible they'll keep releasing expansion packs or something for SC2 rather than try to build a new RTS from scratch.

I mention the story because that rules out WC4 in some ways, unless they go with the parallel universe explanation. Meanwhile, I don't think any of their other IPs have the potential to become an RTS, unless you went for the OW backstory or something (which'd be similar to WC3, a mix of hero units and base building).

A Diablo RTS would be interesting as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they kept that as an action-RPG. Because action-RPG is likely to be a much bigger genre than RTS which isn't popular.
kiss kiss fall in love
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
November 05 2017 15:07 GMT
#159
7 years too late and it doesn't change the problem, that MP is still volatile, often not skillbased and therefore often frustrating for those who really wanna try play an "honest" game (meaning without BS). Blizzard didn't change some critical stuff for 7 years or it took them several years to fix some stuff that was criticised about since the beta.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
November 05 2017 15:20 GMT
#160
It's not 7 years to late. I would say 2 years.
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