Teamliquid Map Contest 9 - Page 4

I don't understand why you decided to use non-standard mineral line in every base. The map layout is also very confusing. Especially with a dark lighting.

On August 26 2017 20:25 Ej_ wrote:

I don't understand why you decided to use non-standard mineral line in every base. The map layout is also very confusing. Especially with a dark lighting.

On November 12 2012 04:21 Monochromatic wrote:
This is something I was thinking of doing for a while, but I've put it off until today. I want to catalog every mineral placement as a resource for mapmakers to use. This is mainly for newer mapmakers, but it is still helpful if you are wondering how to make certain base layouts. (IE: Atlantis Spaceship's 3 gas base) If you feel I am missing any important ones or ones that you want to see, please tell me which ones I should add.

They are split into standard, which are normal bases used on multiple maps, and special, which are bases used on only one map.

Without further ado:

Standard: + Show Spoiler +

Special: + Show Spoiler +

Again, if I messed any up, or if you want to see any specific ones, please ask.

On August 27 2017 00:12 Siegetank_Dieter1 wrote:
I appreciate if a map has a lot of art in it, but for me, a player, the layout is the most important part of a map, so please mapmakers, don't prioritize the art over the actual layout and gameplay of the map.

On August 27 2017 00:17 LykosAldefos wrote:


Sorry ~_~, and understood, I'll try making my maps layouts more standard... Thanks for mentioning it! :<

On August 27 2017 00:41 Siegetank_Dieter1 wrote:


Hey man, my post wasn't related to your maps :D i didn't even see your maps and i haven't played them.

I was just generally speaking, because thats just a feeling of me that maps get more and more gimmicky with each season and somehow maps like bloodboil and dasan station keep getting into mappools, which extremely annoys me as an active ladder player.

Fancy maps usually promote all in or cheese strategies and once the best BO got figured out, the map becomes very stale in gameplay.

More gimmicky maps just lead to less diversity and sometimes they are so bad, that most people just veto them right away.

Standard maps alwaays have their own unique features, even though they are "standard". Those little details like for example an exposed 3rd or pocket expansions etc. Already affect the strategy choice a lot and create interesting strategic diversity without forcing players into specific playstyles.

The perfect mappool in my opinion is simply a mix of 2, 3 and 4 player standard maps. Which feature different factors like for example 3 lane layouts, straight lined rush distance to promote timings more, pocket expansions, no rocks, no gold bases, risky gold bases, different watchtower positions, different mirrors (for example frost mirror creates different gameplay depending on spawn position, maps like cactus valley can favor dropplay for one player over another because of rotational mirror etc.)...

There are countless details that affect how a map gets played, while it still is considered to be a standard map.

I'm sick of maps with stupid gimmicks just for the sake of it. If a gold base doesn't really increase the gameplay quality of the map, then just don't add one.

A map also doesn't need thousand rocks in order to have interesting gameplay etc....

As i said, less is usually more. Small details often create enough diversity for players to chose one strategy over another, while not being too restricting in terms of strategy.

A good map should be balanced for every matchup and allow as many strategies as possible. Then you will see strategic diversity.

On August 26 2017 20:25 Ej_ wrote:

I don't understand why you decided to use non-standard mineral line in every base. The map layout is also very confusing. Especially with a dark lighting.

On August 27 2017 00:41 Siegetank_Dieter1 wrote:


Hey man, my post wasn't related to your maps :D i didn't even see your maps and i haven't played them.

I was just generally speaking, because thats just a feeling of me that maps get more and more gimmicky with each season and somehow maps like bloodboil and dasan station keep getting into mappools, which extremely annoys me as an active ladder player.

It feels like a lot of mapmakers focus more on making an art statement instead of a well designed, competetive map.

Fancy maps usually promote all in or cheese strategies and once the best BO got figured out, the map becomes very stale in gameplay.

More gimmicky maps just lead to less diversity and sometimes they are so bad, that most people just veto them right away.

Standard maps always have their own unique features too, even though they are considered to be "standard". Those little details like for example a slightly exposed 3rd or pocket expansions etc. Already affect the strategy choice a lot and create interesting strategic diversity without forcing players into specific playstyles.

The perfect mappool in my opinion is simply a mix of 2, 3 and 4 player standard maps. Which feature different factors like for example 3 lane layouts, straight lined rush distance to promote timings more, pocket expansions, no rocks, no gold bases, risky gold bases, different watchtower positions, different mirrors (for example frost mirror creates different gameplay depending on spawn position, maps like cactus valley can favor dropplay for one player over another because of rotational mirror etc.)...

There are countless details that affect how a map gets played, while it still is considered to be a standard map.

I'm sick of maps with stupid gimmicks just for the sake of it. If a gold base doesn't really increase the gameplay quality of the map, then just don't add one.

A map also doesn't need thousand rocks in order to have interesting gameplay etc....

As i said, less is usually more. Small details often encourage players enough to chose one strategy over another, while not being too restricting in terms of strategy freedom.

A good map should be balanced for every matchup and allow strategic freedom.

Coda for example is a very standard map and clearly encourages macro play because of the high ground natural, high ground and easy to wall 3rd etc. but in the end you can still play whatever you want basically.

That's what makes a map great imo

*Content slightly edited, sorry for bad english ;D