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I guess this was a huge success, great news!
On July 24 2017 03:19 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 03:12 Musicus wrote:On July 24 2017 03:02 NonY wrote:On July 24 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.
Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018. Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days. You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number. I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days. It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three. The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me. That's for a bundle of three war chests... That was my whole point in commenting. He did the calculation with the bundle, so accounting for the bundle and accounting for the discount of the bundle, we can get the range, but we can't know exactly how many are sold. But in calculating the range he still forgot to account for the bundle. Dingodile was counting the number of possible buyers. I don't know where you're getting that from. Just scroll up you can read the conversation yourself. It was never about number of buyers. Where did anyone say anything about possible buyers? :o
Nobody was talking about possible buyers, but that's what Dingodile calculated (by mistake). That's why you two had a misunderstanding and ended up with different numbers, just trying to clear things up  .
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On July 25 2017 21:58 Ansibled wrote:
Hitting the cap so quickly, while good (I guess? It was low anyway) kind of takes some of the hype away from the buildup to Blizzcan warchest has going I think.
Yeah, there aren't any stretch goals or like, anything big for whales to spend on, so I'd imagine growth is going to be super super slow. I know people draw comparions to the Dota compendium, but this is more appropriately compared to the original TI3 compendium, which was a fraction of TI4's.
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i hope hitting this $200,000 goal makes this a "big success" in Blizzard's eyes. Its hard to say because ATVI constantly sandbags their projections so that they can continually claim they are "over performing".
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Honestly I still think a $700K blizzcon is insane anyway. $280K first place is ridiculous. Yh I know dota has a $22 million pool etc, but I'd rather warchest money go into more tournaments that just making blizzcon more top heavy.
I guess people like the world finals having the most money for hype reasons.
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The best would be to put the extra money in to challenger next year imo.
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On July 27 2017 00:15 Musicus wrote:
The best would be to put the extra money in to challenger next year imo.
i like that idea as well. spread out the cash.
i prefer it when Blizzard hands out money ( to TB, BTTV, etc ) for a competitive event and steps away.
if TB, BTTV, whomever does a bad job Blizzard can just stop giving them cash. OTOH, if they do a great job... give them more responsibility ad more money in the futurer. Eventually, i'd like to see an organization like TB, BTTV take over WCS altogether.
footnote : i view TB as the brand of an org because its more than 1 guy doing all the stuff he does.
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On July 26 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i hope hitting this $200,000 goal makes this a "big success" in Blizzard's eyes. Its hard to say because ATVI constantly sandbags their projections so that they can continually claim they are "over performing".
It's not sandbagging when Blizz revenues increase 50% Y/Y, Q1 Report. 25% increase Y/Y for in game sales.
I think they will view it as a success. I imagine 800k is the number they needed to make it worth their while, padding the financial stats and contributing to the overall success of Blizzard. Perhaps the next Warchest will be different as they'll have data to support a higher cap.
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I just hope they do a counter for the extra money too and specify where it will go. It should be the norm with croudfunding stuff. Did we ever get to know what the WCS portraits made the players?
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On July 27 2017 00:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I just hope they do a counter for the extra money too and specify where it will go. It should be the norm with croudfunding stuff. Did we ever get to know what the WCS portraits made the players?
I at least have no idea how much the players made from the portraits.
I really hope they will be transparaent about the extra money.
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On July 27 2017 00:29 Ctone23 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2017 23:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i hope hitting this $200,000 goal makes this a "big success" in Blizzard's eyes. Its hard to say because ATVI constantly sandbags their projections so that they can continually claim they are "over performing". It's not sandbagging when Blizz revenues increase 50% Y/T, Q1 Report. 25% increase Y/Y for in game sales. I think they will view it as a success. I imagine 800k is the number they needed to make it worth their while, padding the financial stats and contributing to the overall success of Blizzard. Perhaps the next Warchest will be different as they'll have data to support a higher cap.
i think ATVI has underperformed in 1 quarter in its history. they're sandbagging and ATVI has different and higher expectations they'll never tell us about.
its nice to see a great game maker bringing in great money though.
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Great result! Now please provide us with a new counter for the 2018 money and a plan of where it goes to. Make this work Blizzard. Keep a good thing going.
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Could someone explain to me, if I buy the War Chest, how much time does it take to unlock everything? I haven't played in a couple of years (never played co-op for example).
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its too bad they didn't keep the counter going beyond the $700,000 goal. For now, all we know is the Warchest brought in more than $800,000 USD.
On July 29 2017 07:41 Freezard wrote:
Could someone explain to me, if I buy the War Chest, how much time does it take to unlock everything? I haven't played in a couple of years (never played co-op for example).
there are 15 skins to unlock. they give u the 3 skins unlocked.
you unlock 3 skins in parallel after accumulating 300,000 XP.
so 1.5 million XP accrued allows you to unlock everything.
On Ladder:
your first victory with a race on a single day gives a 100,000 XP bonus and the win itself gives you ~30,000 XP. Switch races and play again and your first win gets u another 100,000 bonus XP. 1 win each race gets your 300,000 XP plus the XP for the win itself.
if you play every day for an hour at the most and switch races after your first win with the previous race you'll unlock everything in less than a week. I unlocked everything in a single 5 hour play session while employing no tricks to obtain extra XP. I was just laddering away.
On Co-Op:
no clue
I laddered for 5 hours straight 1 night and unlocked everything.
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Anyone have any idea when the new Warchest stuff will come out today?
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On August 17 2017 02:20 Brutaxilos wrote:
Anyone have any idea when the new Warchest stuff will come out today?
It's out now.
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i'm not sleeping until the Tank and Thor are unlocked.
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So Blizzard is not even updating the WCS Montréal and GLS S3 winners on the warchest?
They don't have much to do about the war chest anyway, yet, they manage to let down 
Did anyone see reasons why? Or are there discussions about this elsewhere?
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On September 25 2017 21:26 AbouSV wrote:So Blizzard is not even updating the WCS Montréal and GLS S3 winners on the warchest? They don't have much to do about the war chest anyway, yet, they manage to let down Did anyone see reasons why? Or are there discussions about this elsewhere?
Just double-checked - both winners are present when I look at my War Chest.
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why the alarak picture is not even fit the full size...
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On September 26 2017 06:42 seph` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 21:26 AbouSV wrote:So Blizzard is not even updating the WCS Montréal and GLS S3 winners on the warchest? They don't have much to do about the war chest anyway, yet, they manage to let down Did anyone see reasons why? Or are there discussions about this elsewhere? Just double-checked - both winners are present when I look at my War Chest.
Damn, I live in the past then x)
Gotta report as a bug then, thanks.
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