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rfv14
Profile Joined October 2015
20 Posts
July 22 2017 13:10 GMT
#241
I love custom skins and I intend to use them on ladder, but I really don't mind if other people want to disable them. There should be an option to do this.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 13:33:29
July 22 2017 13:33 GMT
#242
I really didn't expect the warchest to do so well. Adding 100K to blizzcon prize pool in a few days

We're looking at a nearly $280K 1st place prize, if they reach $700K goal? Seeing how it's always been 40% of the total pool

If any of the top 8 win, other than soO or gumi, they would become the highest earning StarCraft pro
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16704 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 20:46:24
July 22 2017 20:38 GMT
#243
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-22 20:57:36
July 22 2017 20:51 GMT
#244
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
July 22 2017 23:10 GMT
#245
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 08:17:43
July 23 2017 08:15 GMT
#246
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
July 23 2017 15:43 GMT
#247
being able to customize both your units and your opponents' is definitely the thing that makes most sense to me. It's just about personalization after all, so it should work exactly like colors imo (as Nony explained : you see yourself as pink and me as blue, but I see myself as orange and you as green for instance).
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 18:02:18
July 23 2017 17:59 GMT
#248
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean the prize pool is receiving over six dollars per war chest when the most it can receive per chest is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three. So the +$109k prize pool indicates somewhere between 43,600 and 52,400 sold.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 23 2017 18:01 GMT
#249
On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three.

The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 18:05:14
July 23 2017 18:02 GMT
#250
On July 24 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three.

The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me.

That's for a bundle of three war chests... That was my whole point in commenting. He did the calculation with the bundle, so accounting for the bundle and accounting for the discount of the bundle, we can get the range, but we can't know exactly how many are sold. But in calculating the range he still forgot to account for the bundle.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 18:13:09
July 23 2017 18:12 GMT
#251
On July 24 2017 03:02 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three.

The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me.

That's for a bundle of three war chests... That was my whole point in commenting. He did the calculation with the bundle, so accounting for the bundle and accounting for the discount of the bundle, we can get the range, but we can't know exactly how many are sold. But in calculating the range he still forgot to account for the bundle.

Basically you are calculating the number of warchests sold, by counting the sale of a whole bundle as 3 warchests sold, while Dingodile was counting the number of possible buyers.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 18:20:37
July 23 2017 18:19 GMT
#252
On July 24 2017 03:12 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 03:02 NonY wrote:
On July 24 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three.

The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me.

That's for a bundle of three war chests... That was my whole point in commenting. He did the calculation with the bundle, so accounting for the bundle and accounting for the discount of the bundle, we can get the range, but we can't know exactly how many are sold. But in calculating the range he still forgot to account for the bundle.

Dingodile was counting the number of possible buyers.

I don't know where you're getting that from. Just scroll up you can read the conversation yourself. It was never about number of buyers. Where did anyone say anything about possible buyers? :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 18:34:14
July 23 2017 18:33 GMT
#253
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

I'm pretty sure Blizzard commited to funding 2018 to the same amount when they announced 2017 anyway.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 19:22:56
July 23 2017 19:06 GMT
#254
On July 24 2017 03:19 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2017 03:12 Musicus wrote:
On July 24 2017 03:02 NonY wrote:
On July 24 2017 03:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2017 02:59 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 17:15 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 08:10 NonY wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:51 Dingodile wrote:
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS in 2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

Prizepool is already at 609k. This means they sold 17,400 Warchest within 3 days.

You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

I know, if everyone bought only for one race, they sold 43,600 warchest. Also between 17,400 and 43,600 within 3 days.

It can't possibly be as low as 17,400. That'd mean they're getting over six dollars per war chest when the most they can get is $2.50. The least they can get is $2.08 per chest, if everyone bought the bundle of three.

The whole thing costs 24,99$ and a quarter goes into the Blizzcon pool. That sounds like 6 per chest to me.

That's for a bundle of three war chests... That was my whole point in commenting. He did the calculation with the bundle, so accounting for the bundle and accounting for the discount of the bundle, we can get the range, but we can't know exactly how many are sold. But in calculating the range he still forgot to account for the bundle.

Dingodile was counting the number of possible buyers.

I don't know where you're getting that from. Just scroll up you can read the conversation yourself. It was never about number of buyers. Where did anyone say anything about possible buyers? :o

Your words:
You did your calculation with the bundle of 3 war chests. You can't calculate exactly how many because you don't know how many people bought the bundle (and therefore paid less per chest). But it should be somewhere around a bit less than triple your number.

English is not my first language. I did calculate about buyers after your post. My math shows that there are between 17,400 and 43,600 buyers.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
July 24 2017 00:07 GMT
#255
On July 23 2017 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
$200,000 represents 32,000 3-race Warchests sold. i wonder if $200,000 added to the BlizzCon prize pool is Blizzard's "tipping point" on a decision to back WCS2018 at the same levels as 2017.

Say Blizz sold 4,000 Warchests... it gives Blizzard an excellent PR-style "reason" for lowering support of WCS 2018.

I don't think that's their goal. Even pessimistically, worst case scenario they just use the money to dampen the burden of WCS. They announced WCS 2018 is pretty much going to be the same as 2017. Hopefully better since they have War Chest income, but maybe not.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
PolarisSpark
Profile Joined May 2016
60 Posts
July 25 2017 02:11 GMT
#256
i.redd.it

$687k now!
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
July 25 2017 07:16 GMT
#257
On July 25 2017 11:11 PolarisSpark wrote:
i.redd.it

$687k now!

This is actually a lot more successful than I anticipated. I'm going to guess that Warchests in total is going to add around $300K to WCS in total ($200K for Blizzcon, $100K for 2018).
Insanely good news for Starcraft's Proscene. I'd guess that Blizzard will probably release 2-3 Warchests next year, which will probably in total add about a million to 2018's prize pool.
Great news!
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 12:58:38
July 25 2017 12:58 GMT
#258
Hitting the cap so quickly, while good (I guess? It was low anyway) kind of takes some of the hype away from the buildup to Blizzcan warchest has going I think.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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XSpektor
Profile Joined May 2017
2 Posts
July 25 2017 13:12 GMT
#259
On July 25 2017 21:58 Ansibled wrote:
Hitting the cap so quickly, while good (I guess? It was low anyway) kind of takes some of the hype away from the buildup to Blizzcan warchest has going I think.

With the speed of reaching the cap, I'm hoping Blizzard changes their minds and adds it to the prize pool.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
July 25 2017 16:11 GMT
#260
On July 25 2017 22:12 XSpektor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 21:58 Ansibled wrote:
Hitting the cap so quickly, while good (I guess? It was low anyway) kind of takes some of the hype away from the buildup to Blizzcan warchest has going I think.

With the speed of reaching the cap, I'm hoping Blizzard changes their minds and adds it to the prize pool.

It's still going to WCS, just not Blizzcon. It'll go towards 2018 WCS and other perks for players (like flights and hotels).
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
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