Hey everyone, we wanted to get your thoughts on a potential change to the Season 1 map pool based on your feedback.
The proposed changes looked to be rotating out Galactic Process, New Gettysburg, and Apotheosis with Belshir Vestige, Newkirk Precinct, and Cactus Valley.
We wanted to remind people once more that just complaining without solutions isn't helpful, so if the majority of you don't believe these specific maps would be the best, please make suggestions from the existing maps that have been used on the ladder in the past because keeping the brand new map count to 4 is important.
Please let us know your thoughts, so that we can make a decision rather quickly.
GSL is using Dream pool 2.0....and most likely will be until end of march...when this gsl season ends.
Yeah, hopefully they change it up after these first set of group stages but they never have before so I doubt they will now. Hope you enjoy watching GSL with Dream Pool 2.0 til March 25th! :D
I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.
I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.
Was only used in GSL if I recall correctly. Since it has a base with 3 gas, that alone means it was never a blizzard map / on ladder. As for finding it I have no clue, it was probably originally called like GSL Atlantis Spaceship but I don't recall. I know I don't have it saved either so unfortunately I just upload it for you.
I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.
You can find it by searching for "atlantis spaceship" through the map editor.
On January 11 2017 11:44 Waxangel wrote: I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.
yeah I have always been a big proponent of large macro maps, but the oversaturation of them is a little too much
I guess it depends on the design of the map. It bothers me when the "aggressive crazy" maps are like dasan station and they just have really short rush distances and no real way to wall off.
We can have more aggressive maps in terms of base position, not rush distances or destructible rocks.
no no no no please apotheosis should stay... no more small maps like belshir and big NO to newkirk.
On January 11 2017 11:24 SidianTheBard wrote: GSL is using Dream pool 2.0....and most likely will be until end of march...when this gsl season ends.
Yeah, hopefully they change it up after these first set of group stages but they never have before so I doubt they will now. Hope you enjoy watching GSL with Dream Pool 2.0 til March 25th! :D
Gsl will use dreampool untill Ro32 end. Ro16 and so on will be played on 6 season 1 ladder maps+ 1 map from korean mapmakers special for GSl
I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.
You can find it by searching for "atlantis spaceship" through the map editor.
Thanks for answers. I found map by going into tab Open -> Battle.net -> Map/Mod Name -> Search but after I click map it says Downloading and OK button is grayed. I tried waiting nothing happens.
Tried some other maps, some of them say map needs to be download and after I hit OK nothing happens. Kinda disappointing seeing editor not working properly. Using 64bit version.
EDIT: Oh LOL after I left my room and returned back some magic happened and it's now opening it! Guess it was downloading things! Thanks a bunch!
On January 11 2017 11:44 Waxangel wrote: I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.
yeah I have always been a big proponent of large macro maps, but the oversaturation of them is a little too much
I guess it depends on the design of the map. It bothers me when the "aggressive crazy" maps are like dasan station and they just have really short rush distances and no real way to wall off.
We can have more aggressive maps in terms of base position, not rush distances or destructible rocks.
But what do i know really, Im not a map maker
Dasan Station is a great map that should have been retained. Many interesting games on it.
I believe I have jinxed myself. (As also pointed out by Meavis on SC2 mapper's discord channel.)
Last Saturday there were talks of possible map replacements in one of the chat channels. I mentioned that I would like to Not see my map return, as it had ended its course with a near 50/50 win ratio across the board. (Example one and two)
Lo and behold, one the new suggested maps is Cactus Valley.
A map like Gettys would really benefit Protoss, which is struggling atm. I think it's important to find the right balance ASAP and that really depends on what the norm of the map pool will be in the future. +1 for Bel'shir Vestige though that map is gorgeous.
On January 11 2017 11:24 SidianTheBard wrote: GSL is using Dream pool 2.0....and most likely will be until end of march...when this gsl season ends.
Yeah, hopefully they change it up after these first set of group stages but they never have before so I doubt they will now. Hope you enjoy watching GSL with Dream Pool 2.0 til March 25th! :D
wish I could still ladder on those map as long but unfortunately they want to change ladder maps for "variety".
port circuit breakers to sc2,and that one with the small double bridges on right/left side of the map that they are playing iN ASL right now i forgot the name
On January 11 2017 21:13 c0sm0naut wrote: cactus valley + dusk towers please
port circuit breakers to sc2,and that one with the small double bridges on right/left side of the map that they are playing iN ASL right now i forgot the name
Circuit breaker looks like entombed valley without rocks.
I'm not a broodwar player, so I'm probably wrong. Just looked at the map images.
On January 11 2017 21:51 killerm12 wrote: god no, stop with Dusk Towers BS, it's been around for way too long and it's so Protoss favourable that's not even funny
Dusk Towers was a pretty balanced map, and sure it was around for 3-4 seasons but Daybreak has been around for... 3 years at least? 2011-2013 in WoL and HotS and now its back for another season in LotV.
Overgrowth is also 2+ years old, it was a ladder map in 2013 and remained in tournaments for pretty much all of HotS.
Honestly Dusk Towers is not a bad choice at all if youre worried about how long a map has been around.
On January 11 2017 21:51 killerm12 wrote: god no, stop with Dusk Towers BS, it's been around for way too long and it's so Protoss favourable that's not even funny
Dusk Towers was a pretty balanced map, and sure it was around for 3-4 seasons but Daybreak has been around for... 3 years at least? 2011-2013 in WoL and HotS and now its back for another season in LotV.
Overgrowth is also 2+ years old, it was a ladder map in 2013 and remained in tournaments for pretty much all of HotS.
Honestly Dusk Towers is not a bad choice at all if youre worried about how long a map has been around.
2 maps being around for way too long doesn't justify another one joining them. By the way Overgrowth is from mid 2014, not 2013.
And honestly Dusk Towers wasn't really well balanced either. The winrates are pretty Terran favored and pretty bad for Zerg across the board. It's not the worst map of all time but it's really not the all-time great map people seem to think it is.
EPT
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