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ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
January 11 2017 02:18 GMT
#1
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20752570583

Hey everyone, we wanted to get your thoughts on a potential change to the Season 1 map pool based on your feedback.

The proposed changes looked to be rotating out Galactic Process, New Gettysburg, and Apotheosis with Belshir Vestige, Newkirk Precinct, and Cactus Valley.

We wanted to remind people once more that just complaining without solutions isn't helpful, so if the majority of you don't believe these specific maps would be the best, please make suggestions from the existing maps that have been used on the ladder in the past because keeping the brand new map count to 4 is important.

Please let us know your thoughts, so that we can make a decision rather quickly.


Thoughts?
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ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
January 11 2017 02:19 GMT
#2
I personally think that newkirk precinct is terrible in LotV. I would much rather play on dusk towers or orbital shipyard again
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franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
January 11 2017 02:22 GMT
#3
There will be a new GSL map right, why not add that.

I'm sick of super outdated maps, map of which are not balanced.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 02:25:02
January 11 2017 02:24 GMT
#4
GSL is using Dream pool 2.0....and most likely will be until end of march...when this gsl season ends.

Yeah, hopefully they change it up after these first set of group stages but they never have before so I doubt they will now. Hope you enjoy watching GSL with Dream Pool 2.0 til March 25th! :D
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 02:44:20
January 11 2017 02:44 GMT
#5
I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 03:09:58
January 11 2017 03:09 GMT
#6
I know it's offtopic (maybe even outdated WoL map suggestion) but anyone know where I can find this map on game?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Atlantis_Spaceship
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[image loading]

I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
January 11 2017 03:22 GMT
#7
Was only used in GSL if I recall correctly. Since it has a base with 3 gas, that alone means it was never a blizzard map / on ladder. As for finding it I have no clue, it was probably originally called like GSL Atlantis Spaceship but I don't recall. I know I don't have it saved either so unfortunately I just upload it for you.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 11 2017 03:47 GMT
#8
On January 11 2017 12:09 outscar wrote:
I know it's offtopic (maybe even outdated WoL map suggestion) but anyone know where I can find this map on game?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Atlantis_Spaceship
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.


You can find it by searching for "atlantis spaceship" through the map editor.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 11 2017 04:17 GMT
#9
IMO they should put whirlwind. A man can dream!
When I think of something else, something will go here
ruypture
Profile Joined May 2014
United States367 Posts
January 11 2017 04:17 GMT
#10
On January 11 2017 11:44 Waxangel wrote:
I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.


yeah I have always been a big proponent of large macro maps, but the oversaturation of them is a little too much

I guess it depends on the design of the map. It bothers me when the "aggressive crazy" maps are like dasan station and they just have really short rush distances and no real way to wall off.

We can have more aggressive maps in terms of base position, not rush distances or destructible rocks.

But what do i know really, Im not a map maker
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Couguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation54 Posts
January 11 2017 04:45 GMT
#11
no no no no please apotheosis should stay... no more small maps like belshir and big NO to newkirk.




On January 11 2017 11:24 SidianTheBard wrote:
GSL is using Dream pool 2.0....and most likely will be until end of march...when this gsl season ends.

Yeah, hopefully they change it up after these first set of group stages but they never have before so I doubt they will now. Hope you enjoy watching GSL with Dream Pool 2.0 til March 25th! :D


Gsl will use dreampool untill Ro32 end. Ro16 and so on will be played on 6 season 1 ladder maps+ 1 map from korean mapmakers special for GSl
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 06:25:32
January 11 2017 06:19 GMT
#12
On January 11 2017 12:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 12:09 outscar wrote:
I know it's offtopic (maybe even outdated WoL map suggestion) but anyone know where I can find this map on game?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Atlantis_Spaceship
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I remember it from epic MVP vs. Squirtle finals but never managed to find it to play on it. Maybe it's called something else? Tried to search on all , including on KR server but no luck. Hope some mapmaker from past can help me finding it.


You can find it by searching for "atlantis spaceship" through the map editor.


Thanks for answers. I found map by going into tab Open -> Battle.net -> Map/Mod Name -> Search but after I click map it says Downloading and OK button is grayed. I tried waiting nothing happens.

Tried some other maps, some of them say map needs to be download and after I hit OK nothing happens. Kinda disappointing seeing editor not working properly. Using 64bit version.

EDIT:
Oh LOL after I left my room and returned back some magic happened and it's now opening it! Guess it was downloading things! Thanks a bunch!
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 07:58:03
January 11 2017 07:57 GMT
#13
On January 11 2017 13:17 ruypture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2017 11:44 Waxangel wrote:
I don't mind Newkirk as long as it's the one and only "split the map down the middle and play a long game" map in the pool. It feels like a problem right now when we have Vaani, Newkirk, Daybreak, and Habitation Station (to a lesser extent), but I wouldn't mind having just one of those kind of maps around.


yeah I have always been a big proponent of large macro maps, but the oversaturation of them is a little too much

I guess it depends on the design of the map. It bothers me when the "aggressive crazy" maps are like dasan station and they just have really short rush distances and no real way to wall off.

We can have more aggressive maps in terms of base position, not rush distances or destructible rocks.

But what do i know really, Im not a map maker

Dasan Station is a great map that should have been retained. Many interesting games on it.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 11 2017 08:25 GMT
#14
I'm a sucker for cactus valley
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 11 2017 09:34 GMT
#15
Would be better to have new maps, but good old maps is way better than terrible old maps.
Zest fanboy.
Ferisii
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark199 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 10:35:28
January 11 2017 09:36 GMT
#16
I believe I have jinxed myself. (As also pointed out by Meavis on SC2 mapper's discord channel.)

Last Saturday there were talks of possible map replacements in one of the chat channels. I mentioned that I would like to Not see my map return, as it had ended its course with a near 50/50 win ratio across the board. (Example one and two)

Lo and behold, one the new suggested maps is Cactus Valley.
Author of Cactus Valley RE - My latest map: Para Bellum http://goo.gl/iV90wG
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3550 Posts
January 11 2017 10:09 GMT
#17
A map like Gettys would really benefit Protoss, which is struggling atm. I think it's important to find the right balance ASAP and that really depends on what the norm of the map pool will be in the future.
+1 for Bel'shir Vestige though that map is gorgeous.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 11 2017 10:30 GMT
#18
Glad Cactus Valley gets another shot.

Now....

bring back Metropolis!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-11 10:42:46
January 11 2017 10:42 GMT
#19
Bel'shir only has 10 bases total and taking taking a 4th as Zerg looks kind of impossible

Can you actually play LotV decently on this map or is this a meme?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
January 11 2017 11:17 GMT
#20
someday we'll have original new maps in the mappool. Someday.
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