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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 14:12:21
September 22 2016 11:27 GMT
#1

Interview with Neeb


TL.net: Congratulations on qualifying for KeSPA Cup! How tough was the qualifier grind, going through the lower bracket?

Neeb: The qualifiers were surprisingly difficult for me. I expected it to be a lot easier since I was playing in good conditions, the ping was like 120 and I slept fine the night before. The only thing is that I was super tilted after losing to Scarlett in the winners semis so I didn’t care about my losers’ bracket games. It might have helped though since I wasn’t nervous when playing.

Did you play from Korea or were you back home in America?

I was in Korea for these matches, I got back from WCS Mexico a few days before the qualifiers.

How much do you think that training in Korea this year has helped your play?

I think I’d honestly improve at a similar rate if I had stayed home since I don’t have the connections to get a wide variety of practice partners. I think the ladder here is similar if not a bit worse than EU ladder, but playing customs with Byun/Solar/a few other Koreans is definitely helpful.

How do you think the best foreigners match up against the best Koreans?

The skill gap between foreigners and Koreans is a lot smaller this year than previous years, so the best foreigners are probably as good as mid-tier Koreans and can take games off of anyone they have the chance to play.

Moving onto the competition itself then, who would you most like to play, and who do you want to avoid?

I obviously want to avoid ByuN because he’s really really good and I want to avoid playing Nerchio / MarineLord / TRUE because I play them all the time already so I feel like it’s a missed opportunity. I hope to play top Koreans (that aren’t ByuN) since I’ve never played any in a live tournament setting and I’m working on my mindset a lot so I could play better here. [E/N: Note: this interview was conducted yesterday prior to the group announcements]

Who do you think will win?

ByuN.

KeSPA Cup will be the first Global Event of 2016. Do you think that there should be more Globals next year?

Yeah, for sure. I think the majority of events should be global events with just a few region locked ones to keep foreigners motivated. The Korean scene is dying at an incredibly fast rate because either Blizzard doesn’t understand or doesn’t care that Koreans have no tournaments to play in. It’s hard to stay motivated when you can’t show anything that you are practicing for another six months. Foreigners have it easy this year since there’s stuff to play in like every week. I’ve heard uThermal and ShoWTimE both talk about taking a few weeks off but there are always qualifiers or tournaments or something so they just can’t. The number of tournaments isn’t an issue it’s just that foreigners get to play everything while Koreans can only play certain events.

ByuN’s just recently destroyed Dear and sOs on his path to the GSL title, and he’s thanked you for being one of his practice partners. Do you think you’d have done a better job against him?

Haha probably not, ByuN beat me very consistently in practice too.

You will be the only non-Korean NA representative at BlizzCon this year; do you ever feel like you’re representing your region when you compete?

No it’s not that significant to me but I like making Europeans mad because, you know, NA > EU, so I want to do better than all the Europeans going.

Well that's going to get the comments section fired up. You can support Neeb at onfireneeb




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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
September 22 2016 11:33 GMT
#2
You forgot to ask (P)Neeb if he likes his fire truck avatar still
Nice interview though, good luck in KESPA Cup Neeb
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 22 2016 11:39 GMT
#3
Neeb thinks EU ladder is better than korean ladder? xD omg
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
September 22 2016 11:40 GMT
#4
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Oalfredo77
Profile Joined July 2016
35 Posts
September 22 2016 11:42 GMT
#5
Wow this kid is a true warrior! He doesnt fight for cash, he fights for the glory!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 22 2016 11:47 GMT
#6
nice interview, i'm liking neeb more and more, even though he's protoss

being a byun practice partner makes you cool, i don't care who you are
maru lover forever
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
September 22 2016 11:48 GMT
#7
On September 22 2016 20:40 Nerchio wrote:
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end

strange how you all seem to suffer the same malady
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
September 22 2016 11:49 GMT
#8
Hello ?
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
September 22 2016 11:52 GMT
#9
God please have mercy on these lost sheep
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 11:59:49
September 22 2016 11:59 GMT
#10
On September 22 2016 20:39 Shuffleblade wrote:
Neeb thinks EU ladder is better than korean ladder? xD omg

Considering KR GM has a lot of Korean amateur players and quite a few foreigners (from weaker regions), and that many of the high profile KeSPA players barely touch ladder (the account with the highest MMR in Korean GM has played 20 games this season), especially when there are still tournaments being played...

Doesn't sound that unlikely honestly.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 22 2016 12:05 GMT
#11
Horrible title, great interview.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 22 2016 12:08 GMT
#12
Time to retire Zest in PvP.

DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 12:12:50
September 22 2016 12:12 GMT
#13
On September 22 2016 20:40 Nerchio wrote:
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end


LOL

Na bro - see Neeb isn't going to get flamed like yourself and uThermal did.

It's not because you're a foreigner - it's because of the content you provided.

You two let your self-interest delude you into making ridiculous statements region locking is good because if you play worse players you'll get better faster!

Neeb though - was honest about what's happening with the region-lock globally - even though it could have negative impact on him financially if they change it - just like Harstem was... strange must be a protoss thing (hurts me to say because I'm T) - basically.. balls vs. no balls.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
September 22 2016 12:13 GMT
#14
I obviously want to avoid ByuN because he’s really really good


So Neeb....about Bambi's mom....
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
September 22 2016 12:27 GMT
#15
I don't know...
Multiple foreigners state that the gap has closed a lot this year. Yet... how do they know? The gap always seemed closer in online tournaments compared to offline events - and we haven't had an offline event this year yet.

I'd still be surprised if any foreigner advanced from the group stage, tbh.
rast
Profile Joined July 2012
Poland44 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 12:33:34
September 22 2016 12:30 GMT
#16
On September 22 2016 21:12 DomeGetta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 20:40 Nerchio wrote:
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end


LOL

Na bro - see Neeb isn't going to get flamed like yourself and uThermal did.

It's not because you're a foreigner - it's because of the content you provided.

You two let your self-interest delude you into making ridiculous statements region locking is good because if you play worse players you'll get better faster!

Neeb though - was honest about what's happening with the region-lock globally - even though it could have negative impact on him financially if they change it - just like Harstem was... strange must be a protoss thing (hurts me to say because I'm T) - basically.. balls vs. no balls.


Wow never thought people can get baited so easily as you. You just provided another 15 Rage points to Nerchio .

I hope Neeb, Nerchio and MarineLorD can crush some faces in this cup .
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
September 22 2016 12:34 GMT
#17
On September 22 2016 21:30 rast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 21:12 DomeGetta wrote:
On September 22 2016 20:40 Nerchio wrote:
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end


LOL

Na bro - see Neeb isn't going to get flamed like yourself and uThermal did.

It's not because you're a foreigner - it's because of the content you provided.

You two let your self-interest delude you into making ridiculous statements region locking is good because if you play worse players you'll get better faster!

Neeb though - was honest about what's happening with the region-lock globally - even though it could have negative impact on him financially if they change it - just like Harstem was... strange must be a protoss thing (hurts me to say because I'm T) - basically.. balls vs. no balls.


Wow never thought people can get baited so easily as you. You just provided another 15 Rage points to Nerchio .


Baited or not, he's right, so there's that.
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3420 Posts
September 22 2016 12:53 GMT
#18
On September 22 2016 21:13 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I obviously want to avoid ByuN because he’s really really good


So Neeb....about Bambi's mom....

ahahhaha, this was brilliant! thanks!
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MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
September 22 2016 12:54 GMT
#19
On September 22 2016 20:48 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 20:40 Nerchio wrote:
Another delusional foreigner, jesus christ when is it going to end

strange how you all seem to suffer the same malady

Wind is blowing rather strong today
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
September 22 2016 13:01 GMT
#20
I can't wait to find out how Neeb fares against that many Kespa players at a LAN event. All these online victories and conquering the ladder have made him too arrogant to handle.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
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