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starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
September 03 2016 18:14 GMT
#61
would suck if it end, wouldnt be to surprised, but would suck cause sc2 is finally getting to the point were it can be really good and the huge patch coming soon making mech strong and other cool shit that can make it a great game finally(We Will see,. but there is potential), so it would be really bad if one of the best tournaments just goes away. sad that it took blizzard to start fixing there game 6 years later since they wanted our money for 3 games rather than make a great game at the start.
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 03 2016 18:16 GMT
#62
On September 04 2016 03:02 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 02:44 Kaizor wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:36 Thouhastmail wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:33 Wrath wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay..


Whats wrong with ASL?


[image loading]


Too volatile. See this picture; It`s Ro.4 after Flash dropped. There are 7 people at the venue.




This is a good rebuttal of all the "lets go back to bw" fans.

Sure, there will always be a fanbase for it, but is there any reason to believe that it will do better than sc2 now? Nothing i have seen or read can back that up.

And i think i am part of the group of people who only started watching competitive SC2 and never knew about the competitive BW scene.

If SC2 PL gets dropped and goes back to BW, there is no way i watch it. I am just not interested in it. So you can't even bank on sc2 fans all going back to support the BW scene.


lol take 2 of the the most least popular sc2 gamers and tell them to play in ro8 in a game not backed by kespa and blizzard and lets see what happens. I believe the crowd was always this low even during 2009 of bw when some random progamers played

random gamers that accidentally made the ro4?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 03 2016 18:20 GMT
#63
Goodbye Korean scene. It was an epic journey which left us with a lot of great games and great memories.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
September 03 2016 18:45 GMT
#64
Maybe they're switching to Overwatch
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 03 2016 18:45 GMT
#65
On September 04 2016 02:51 RKC wrote:
Hybrid Proleague!

BO5: SC, BW, WoL, HoTS & LoTV


SC64 Hype!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 18:52:49
September 03 2016 18:50 GMT
#66
I don't know if this means anything, but hey it's always fun to speculate i guess.

Korean sc2 without proleague would be extremely bland to say the least.
Does have bw (hd) the potential to get big (enough) in korea again? Who knows, i just know that the korean youtube vods of ASL get around 30k viewers while sc2 gets like 3k.

Overwatch might be a thing in the future, but i still think it sucks as viewing experience so i don't know if havign fun in pc bangs is enough to sustain an esports scene.
Interesting times ahead, that's for sure.


edit: considering that waxangel opened the thread shit is serious though, damn
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 03 2016 18:59 GMT
#67
It would suck for KeSPA to throw all the primarily SC2 players under the bus and go back to a BW Proleague. I'd hope that there would be dual leagues or that Afreeca would at least revive the GSTL.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 03 2016 19:02 GMT
#68
Now I'm sad
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
September 03 2016 19:11 GMT
#69
Would make sense. Rosters are already pretty thin and the offseason retirements won't make it better. CJ or MVP will probably disband over the offseason, and Kespa might not want a 6-team Proleague. Looks like the lack of new blood in SC2 is finally catching up to it.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
September 03 2016 19:12 GMT
#70
Maybe you guys are looking for this guy

[image loading]
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 03 2016 19:15 GMT
#71
On September 04 2016 04:12 Thouhastmail wrote:
Maybe you guys are looking for this guy

[image loading]

Nah Sbenu is known in Korea to only concentrate on the PR and not R and D so the company won't last long or the sponsorship won't
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
September 03 2016 19:18 GMT
#72
Sad new for SC2. I hope SPL will come back on BW to maintain Starcraft PL alive.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
September 03 2016 19:19 GMT
#73
On September 04 2016 04:15 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 04:12 Thouhastmail wrote:
Maybe you guys are looking for this guy

[image loading]

Nah Sbenu is known in Korea to only concentrate on the PR and not R and D so the company won't last long or the sponsorship won't


Do not answer kindly to sarcasm; it hurts pleasure.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
September 03 2016 19:25 GMT
#74
What about previous years? I never paid attention to this but did they announce the next season at the conclusion of the finals?
Adun toridas!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 03 2016 19:28 GMT
#75
Hm, due to the time it play usually I never got to watch sc2 proleague, so this sucks, but I couldn't watch it anyway :/. I like both bw and sc2 so I do hope they can do one of the two games next year and not ditch both.
When I think of something else, something will go here
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
September 03 2016 19:31 GMT
#76
No one's fault but our own. And a few shady sponsorships...and matchfixers, but mostly us
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 03 2016 19:36 GMT
#77
On September 04 2016 04:25 corydoras wrote:
What about previous years? I never paid attention to this but did they announce the next season at the conclusion of the finals?

Last year the new season was announced to happen at the day of the finals. Although later on the KeSPA chairman said in an interview that it was hard to get a main sponsor, so maybe KeSPA is just being careful not announcing anything before it's truly set in stone this year.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
September 03 2016 19:39 GMT
#78
On September 04 2016 04:36 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 04:25 corydoras wrote:
What about previous years? I never paid attention to this but did they announce the next season at the conclusion of the finals?

Last year the new season was announced to happen at the day of the finals. Although later on the KeSPA chairman said in an interview that it was hard to get a main sponsor, so maybe KeSPA is just being careful not announcing anything before it's truly set in stone this year.


The end is nigh! Repent!
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 03 2016 20:04 GMT
#79
On September 04 2016 03:16 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 03:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:44 Kaizor wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:36 Thouhastmail wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:33 Wrath wrote:
On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay..


Whats wrong with ASL?


[image loading]


Too volatile. See this picture; It`s Ro.4 after Flash dropped. There are 7 people at the venue.




This is a good rebuttal of all the "lets go back to bw" fans.

Sure, there will always be a fanbase for it, but is there any reason to believe that it will do better than sc2 now? Nothing i have seen or read can back that up.

And i think i am part of the group of people who only started watching competitive SC2 and never knew about the competitive BW scene.

If SC2 PL gets dropped and goes back to BW, there is no way i watch it. I am just not interested in it. So you can't even bank on sc2 fans all going back to support the BW scene.


lol take 2 of the the most least popular sc2 gamers and tell them to play in ro8 in a game not backed by kespa and blizzard and lets see what happens. I believe the crowd was always this low even during 2009 of bw when some random progamers played

random gamers that accidentally made the ro4?


It would be pretty much drain the scene out of sponsors / team houses and only the B teamers who did not switch keep playing. Like bringing "Guilty" (Samsung) vs "Odin" (MVP) RO4. Those B teamers got their level up while grinding without a scene to back them up. Since they did not make crowd in early days they won't be able to do now.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
September 03 2016 20:13 GMT
#80
ProLeague returning to Brood War would be phenomenal. Just the thought of it is making me more excited than it should.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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