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On September 04 2016 01:29 Argonauta wrote:
What some people in this sub dont realize if that if SC2 ends, then BW will end.
If there is few new blood coming to sc2 is none going to BW. The scene its just hold by some nostalgics and flash, sure maybe the return of BW will make a small spike of viewers at the beggining but it will not last longer. I've been watching all ASL since afreeca take care of it and I can tell you: it only gets packed when flash plays.
I mean right now the small bw leagues out perform the big sc2 tournaments in korea, so I kind of doubt that, even more so if blizzard gets behind bw again
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Damn that's sad and really sounds like an end... without proleague korean sc2 scene will die out eventually. I hear sc2 is quite popular in China though, so maybe there's still hope in the Chinese?
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On September 04 2016 01:46 romson87 wrote:
Damn that's sad and really sounds like an end... without proleague korean sc2 scene will die out eventually. I hear sc2 is quite popular in China though, so maybe there's still hope in the Chinese?
I doubt that SC2 is even close to WC3 in China
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Welp didnt take long for BW against SC II and where Kespa should go.
The fun thing is, you should set your bets on Overwatch, this game goes bonkers in Korea, it is the only game of the 3 named games by blizzard that earn them money in korea (and big money too).
Neither BW or SC II will gone big anymore, both can exists in their way (BW as a game driven by popular individual streamers with big history) while SC II is pretty much only driven by Blizzard cash and "hey we got this teamhouses and infrastructe, we should use it"
I never played Overwatched since the beta, I dont watch or care about the game, as I am a CS:GOed person, but if Blizzard and Kespa want to go somewhere fresh, with new players, new talents, new (and much more) viewers, they go to Overwatch.
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On September 04 2016 01:46 romson87 wrote:
Damn that's sad and really sounds like an end... without proleague korean sc2 scene will die out eventually. I hear sc2 is quite popular in China though, so maybe there's still hope in the Chinese?
We only had 5-6 good chinese players in ~6 years, i doubt it is popular. They have NSL and GPL with some good prize money though
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On September 04 2016 01:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
yeah thats why ASL has 3 sponsors.
And that is really cool, but do you think that the people born since 1997 are going to pick BW to play? I love to watch BW dont get me wrong but I just feel that it does not have any appel to young people to play. Starcraft 2? It has sometihng, not as much as other e sports for sure but something.
On September 04 2016 01:44 Ansibled wrote:
In this sub?
In the starcraft section of teamliquid forums I mean.
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Dunno why you guys are so overly negative.
This means nothing
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On September 03 2016 23:54 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2016 23:45 Akara12345 wrote:
It's about time. Maybe Brood War will replace it? itll be interesting if BW makes a comeback. i have no interest in watching it personally, but it would probably create hype that would draw a lot of people in. the problem as i see it is that the BW fanbase would be eating itself inside out - there's almost no chance of drawing in viewers who weren't either around for BW or simply curious enough because of SC2, and that's a limited base. SC2 is fighting a losing battle against other esports, but it at least had its own modern appeal. no one from the current generation is going to want to sit down and watch a game that looks like BW unless the HD remaster is mindblowing cue a thousand insane BW acolytes telling me how it's the greatest game ever and even in 500 years people will appreciate its beauty, but i'm talking about reality 
My first time watching Brood War was in 2009, not long before the SC2 beta came out. Sure, the graphics were completely outdated, but what made me watch a lot of the VODS that GomTV had to offer back in the day was the quality of the cast and the quality of the games played. Flash in SC2 is nothing compared to the monster he was in BW.
It might just appeal to people who are interested in eSports in general, not just a single game.
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The end of a season always has signs and talk that resemble to the end of an era, and you can interpret this ending words straight (it's the end of the season) or go "cryptic" and theorycraft and be like : are they announcing the end of all sc2?
Nothing can say one or the other is wrong, so better go for the one that makes more sense : they're just saying the season is other. That doesn't mean sc2 proleague will be there next year though, context seems ominous...
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I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay..
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On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay..
Whats wrong with ASL?
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On September 04 2016 02:33 Wrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay.. Whats wrong with ASL?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fQmvr4e.jpg)
Too volatile. See this picture; It`s Ro.4 after Flash dropped. There are 7 people at the venue.
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Katowice25012 Posts
Bring back hybrid league please.
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On September 04 2016 02:36 Thouhastmail wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2016 02:33 Wrath wrote:On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay.. Whats wrong with ASL? Too volatile. See this picture; It`s Ro.4 after Flash dropped. There are 7 people at the venue.
This is a good rebuttal of all the "lets go back to bw" fans.
Sure, there will always be a fanbase for it, but is there any reason to believe that it will do better than sc2 now? Nothing i have seen or read can back that up.
And i think i am part of the group of people who only started watching competitive SC2 and never knew about the competitive BW scene.
If SC2 PL gets dropped and goes back to BW, there is no way i watch it. I am just not interested in it. So you can't even bank on sc2 fans all going back to support the BW scene.
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China6332 Posts
On September 04 2016 01:48 Wrath wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2016 01:46 romson87 wrote:
Damn that's sad and really sounds like an end... without proleague korean sc2 scene will die out eventually. I hear sc2 is quite popular in China though, so maybe there's still hope in the Chinese? I doubt that SC2 is even close to WC3 in China
SC2 is, in fact, bigger than WC3 in China in terms of player base and audience right now.
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I'd watch BW Proleague but I'd rate them just ending it more likely than a switch to that. Only really started watching high level BW after I discovered SC2 and getting into it wasn't effortless even though I don't mind the graphics and can see that it's a great game as is SC2.
So yeah, I feel it's most likely that the majority of the people interested in SC2 would not transfer to BW just like the opposite didn't happen in Korea. Tastosis has been able to get somewhat decent viewership for ASL so I guess there's some small hope of retaining an okayish one though.
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Hybrid Proleague!
BO5: SC, BW, WoL, HoTS & LoTV
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BTW, SC2 developers must be more responsible for their output.
They should not work that way if they knew there`re people who make a living playing their games. Adept? Seriously?
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United States33710 Posts
OGN should run BW OSL again, while SpoTV does Overwatch & SC2 Proleagues. That's my ideal world.
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On September 04 2016 02:44 Kaizor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2016 02:36 Thouhastmail wrote:On September 04 2016 02:33 Wrath wrote:On September 04 2016 02:29 Thouhastmail wrote:
I`m the one who believes SC2 should be more like BW-ish. But ASL? nay.. Whats wrong with ASL? Too volatile. See this picture; It`s Ro.4 after Flash dropped. There are 7 people at the venue. This is a good rebuttal of all the "lets go back to bw" fans. Sure, there will always be a fanbase for it, but is there any reason to believe that it will do better than sc2 now? Nothing i have seen or read can back that up. And i think i am part of the group of people who only started watching competitive SC2 and never knew about the competitive BW scene. If SC2 PL gets dropped and goes back to BW, there is no way i watch it. I am just not interested in it. So you can't even bank on sc2 fans all going back to support the BW scene.
lol take 2 of the the most least popular sc2 gamers and tell them to play in ro8 in a game not backed by kespa and blizzard and lets see what happens. I believe the crowd was always this low even during 2009 of bw when some random progamers played
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