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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
September 03 2016 15:35 GMT
#21
Pretty obvious move, pretty obvious reasons.

I still expect Kespa to move to another game very soon, so they have another premiere product next to LoL.
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 03 2016 15:35 GMT
#22
As long as God is in Brood War, I am content and don't need anything else.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51048 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 15:39:20
September 03 2016 15:35 GMT
#23
lol, could they have not gone with the now classic "not the end...a new beginning" again?

not sure about there not being a proleague next year, but there won't be a forced switch thats for sure.
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Psychotikah
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada101 Posts
September 03 2016 15:36 GMT
#24
Blizzard should step up if they need a sponsor.

All that money going to the wsc circuit could be better used in an actual high level tournament like the SPL.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 03 2016 15:56 GMT
#25
On September 04 2016 00:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lol, could they have not gone with the now classic "not the end...a new beginning" again?

not sure about there not being a proleague next year, but there won't be a forced switch thats for sure.


"not the end... but a beginning we began before and now we are returning to"
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 03 2016 16:04 GMT
#26
heres hoping its being replaced with broodwar again
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coolman123123
Profile Joined August 2013
146 Posts
September 03 2016 16:08 GMT
#27
Beginning of the end for major Starcraft 2 in Korea. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Blizzard start pushing Brood War (and probably Overwatch) in Korea again along with Kespa (as has been rumored). Most players will switch back to BW, some will retire, a few will probably keep playing SC2 if there is still GSL, but without major teams I kinda doubt GSL will survive either. Not surprising either, not only is Starcraft 2 an inferior game, it also doesn't have the legacy and culture that BW does in Korea. Koreans tend to play the same games for decades, ie Maplestory, Lineage, Sudden Attack and Brood War. This would also explain Blizzard's increased focus on the foreign scene.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
September 03 2016 16:13 GMT
#28
Well, Korea was never really into SC2 anyways. The efforts by Blizzard to region-lock WCS and to promote foreigners over Koreans are starting to make a lot of sense now ; the goal wasn't to mindlessly kill the Korean scene or to throw money at foreigners as we first thought, but to prepare the scene to make sure that when Koreans would switch back to BW, foreigners would have legitimacy to claim to be the best in the world.
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swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
September 03 2016 16:15 GMT
#29
On September 04 2016 01:08 coolman123123 wrote:
Beginning of the end for major Starcraft 2 in Korea. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Blizzard start pushing Brood War (and probably Overwatch) in Korea again along with Kespa (as has been rumored). Most players will switch back to BW, some will retire, a few will probably keep playing SC2 if there is still GSL, but without major teams I kinda doubt GSL will survive either. Not surprising either, not only is Starcraft 2 an inferior game, it also doesn't have the legacy and culture that BW does in Korea. Koreans tend to play the same games for decades, ie Maplestory, Lineage, Sudden Attack and Brood War. This would also explain Blizzard's increased focus on the foreign scene.

Alright you BW-philes should really stop saying that BW is better and that sc2 is a dead game. You guys sound like the exact kind of people we don't want here. Do you want sc2 people to talk bad of BW? Cuz there are plenty of reason why BW is not fun too. Just because it was the best game of its time does not mean it still is now. Seriously please
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 03 2016 16:16 GMT
#30
If Proleague is actually done I'm pretty much done, too. But I still got hope.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51048 Posts
September 03 2016 16:22 GMT
#31
On September 04 2016 01:15 swissman777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 01:08 coolman123123 wrote:
Beginning of the end for major Starcraft 2 in Korea. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Blizzard start pushing Brood War (and probably Overwatch) in Korea again along with Kespa (as has been rumored). Most players will switch back to BW, some will retire, a few will probably keep playing SC2 if there is still GSL, but without major teams I kinda doubt GSL will survive either. Not surprising either, not only is Starcraft 2 an inferior game, it also doesn't have the legacy and culture that BW does in Korea. Koreans tend to play the same games for decades, ie Maplestory, Lineage, Sudden Attack and Brood War. This would also explain Blizzard's increased focus on the foreign scene.

Alright you BW-philes should really stop saying that BW is better and that sc2 is a dead game. You guys sound like the exact kind of people we don't want here. Do you want sc2 people to talk bad of BW? Cuz there are plenty of reason why BW is not fun too. Just because it was the best game of its time does not mean it still is now. Seriously please


its 2012 all over again.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 03 2016 16:29 GMT
#32
What some people in this sub dont realize if that if SC2 ends, then BW will end.
If there is few new blood coming to sc2 is none going to BW. The scene its just hold by some nostalgics and flash, sure maybe the return of BW will make a small spike of viewers at the beggining but it will not last longer. I've been watching all ASL since afreeca take care of it and I can tell you: it only gets packed when flash plays.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51048 Posts
September 03 2016 16:34 GMT
#33
yeah thats why ASL has 3 sponsors.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 03 2016 16:34 GMT
#34
This thread is triggering me as it is becoming a SC2 vs BW thread. Maybe it has the potential to be the Mega thread...
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
September 03 2016 16:35 GMT
#35
On September 04 2016 01:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 01:15 swissman777 wrote:
On September 04 2016 01:08 coolman123123 wrote:
Beginning of the end for major Starcraft 2 in Korea. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Blizzard start pushing Brood War (and probably Overwatch) in Korea again along with Kespa (as has been rumored). Most players will switch back to BW, some will retire, a few will probably keep playing SC2 if there is still GSL, but without major teams I kinda doubt GSL will survive either. Not surprising either, not only is Starcraft 2 an inferior game, it also doesn't have the legacy and culture that BW does in Korea. Koreans tend to play the same games for decades, ie Maplestory, Lineage, Sudden Attack and Brood War. This would also explain Blizzard's increased focus on the foreign scene.

Alright you BW-philes should really stop saying that BW is better and that sc2 is a dead game. You guys sound like the exact kind of people we don't want here. Do you want sc2 people to talk bad of BW? Cuz there are plenty of reason why BW is not fun too. Just because it was the best game of its time does not mean it still is now. Seriously please


its 2012 all over again.


Who played with the time machine again? Come on!
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6277 Posts
September 03 2016 16:37 GMT
#36
Not surprising if it quits but it would still suck. Ah well it has been great while it lasted.
coolman123123
Profile Joined August 2013
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 16:39:58
September 03 2016 16:39 GMT
#37
On September 04 2016 01:29 Argonauta wrote:
What some people in this sub dont realize if that if SC2 ends, then BW will end.
If there is few new blood coming to sc2 is none going to BW. The scene its just hold by some nostalgics and flash, sure maybe the return of BW will make a small spike of viewers at the beggining but it will not last longer. I've been watching all ASL since afreeca take care of it and I can tell you: it only gets packed when flash plays.


I would imagine more people would watch big budget tournaments sanctioned by Kespa and Blizzard. These small BW events still outperform the Kespa run Starcraft 2 Leagues.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-03 16:48:34
September 03 2016 16:43 GMT
#38
Maybe some kind of overwatch tournament? I have no idea how the game works so i don't know if it is viable in a proleague environment

I really hope they don't ditch sc2 This is the only game i follow since moba tournaments suck.

All of my friends switched to league since it is big in Turkey. I've played it until plat1-diamond5 level but it became boring after that. Seriously though if ssl and gsl dies completely i am basically done with esports until a new game comes out
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
September 03 2016 16:44 GMT
#39
This thread is hilarious.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 03 2016 16:44 GMT
#40
On September 04 2016 01:29 Argonauta wrote:
What some people in this sub dont realize if that if SC2 ends, then BW will end.
If there is few new blood coming to sc2 is none going to BW. The scene its just hold by some nostalgics and flash, sure maybe the return of BW will make a small spike of viewers at the beggining but it will not last longer. I've been watching all ASL since afreeca take care of it and I can tell you: it only gets packed when flash plays.

In this sub?
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