LotV Design Changes announced - Page 6

On August 15 2016 02:44 Barrin wrote:

Maps.

2.Can't help but to think that they swapped the anti air and anti ground attack for cyclone around.. it's lock on for air is very bad (160 dmg over 14 sec) and mech already had good amount of anti armor ground options in tank thor hellbat ect.

A lot of mechanical issue stems from lack of anti-air and while broodlord range revert helps, not gonna do much vs protoss...

Cyclone also absolutely shreds worker line (1 worker per second) with this change but not great vs other units so I am not too excited for the repurpose.

On August 15 2016 02:55 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Seems like Avilo's lobby to make mech great again worked. Blizzard caved into Avilo and his mindless minions of mech maniacs.

These are some drastic changes, so it will be interesting to see what goes live and what dies. Also will stir up the meta so we can see how foreigners and Koreans adapt to all these changes.

Maru and Gumiho should be happy with the mech changes.

On August 15 2016 02:05 Topin wrote:
so charge became the same as BW?

On August 15 2016 02:56 Aocowns wrote:

Maybe, its gonna be interesting to see whether this is the same case as "gumiho should be really happy about the medievac speed boost" but then it turned out it wasnt special after all because everyone became a gumiho of dropping

On August 15 2016 01:34 pieroog wrote:
Source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20241474/legacy-of-the-void-multiplayer-design-changes-8-14-2016


This iconic unit is a critical part of the Mech composition. After numerous discussions with players, a key understanding has surfaced: the added mobility granted by Medivac pickup in Legacy of the Void also brought about the loss of one of the Siege Tank’s most enjoyable aspects: incredibly effective area control. Yet, constructing Medivacs (a unit which heals only biological units) is often not the right choice for Mech players, and so these players are not able to take full advantage of the Siege Tank’s strengths.

However, if we decrease the mobility of Siege Tanks by removing Medivac pickup, we can justify a large increase to its damage and reinvigorate the Siege Tank’s ability to assert dominance over specific areas of the map. Doing so will also decrease the unit’s overlap with the Widow Mine, which serves as a more mobile burst damage option (similar to the current Siege Tank with Medivac pickup).

Siege Tank Changes:

Sieged Siege Tank damage increased from 35 (+15 vs armored) to 40 (+30 vs armored).
Sieged Siege Tanks can no longer be picked up by Medivacs.
35 (+15 vs armored) damage versus 40 (+30 vs armored) damage:


Source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20241474/legacy-of-the-void-multiplayer-design-changes-8-14-2016

On August 15 2016 02:51 eviltomahawk wrote:

Ultras still got up to 8 armor, so the tank damage is realistically 62 to 77 against a fully upgraded Ultra, but that's still better than 42 to 57 damage.

On August 15 2016 02:55 Athenau wrote:

The mobile portion of mech was really bad, since hellions were so mediocre. In BW it was vultures (along with strong tanks) that made mech viable by letting the terran assert some map control. Cyclones + Hellions now fulfill the same role.


You realize that tempest anti-ground range was nerfed to 6? The Thor now hits all the long-range massive air units, which were the biggest problem before.


Huh? It's crazy dps vs most armored now (better than an immortal). As for worker shredding, it's not really that great for cost--about the dps of 3 stimmed marines--and really terrible if you're behind on upgrades.