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August 1st, 2016 01:00 GMT

NSL 2016 International
The Big Boy
The Regulars
The Chinese Contingent

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia


NSL 2016 International



With all the excitement surrounding IEM and the Proleague Round 3 Finals over the past week, it might have escaped your attention that there is a third event happening in Shanghai. The originally named Starcraft League was initially conceived as a teamleague for Chinese and Taiwanese teams last year. It’s where ByuN famously was given the chance to shine for the X-Team organisation, carrying them to success with a remarkable 21-1 record in the competition following his mid-season acquisition. It’s clear though that they have higher aspirations for their competition though, and much like the hotly anticipated Olimoleague monthly finals, NeoTV have decided to make the transition to hosting offline competitions.

It’s always nice to see variation between tournaments, to reduce the sense of repetition from seeing the same players play in the same format (hello Hydra vs Neeb in a knockout Bo5), and the NSL’s decided to change up the standard prize pool. To quote from Liquipedia:
  • Prize money for Group Stage matches: 9,000 CNY, winner takes all if won 2-0, otherwise it is a 2/1 split.
  • Prize money for Ro.8: 15,000 CNY, winner takes all if won 3-0, 4/1 split for 3-1, 3/2 split for 3-2.
  • Prize money for Ro.4: 35,000 CNY, winner takes all if won 4-0, 6/1 split for 4-1, 5/2 split for 4-2, 4/3 split for 4-3.
  • Prize money for Finals: 100,000 CNY, winner takes all if won 4-0, 6/1 split for 4-1, 5/2 split for 4-2, 4/3 split for 4-3.


Note: total prize pool is 410,000 CNY, or roughly 62,300 USD.

Suddenly, this gives players another reason besides sadism and pride to stomp their opponents into the floor, and it’ll be especially interesting to watch how players approach the final given the vast difference in potential prize money between the various scenarios.

It’s not just the prize money that’s different; there’s a clear divide in the player pool here too. While half of the players here are battle-hardened WCS regulars (with one exception…), there are quite a few local players looking to break out of the Chinese scene.


The Big Boy



There’s no doubt that (P)PartinG’s the big draw here. Hell, if he was coming into this event in the same sort of swaggering form that he’s showed any time since 2011, he’d be a crowd favourite, but this time is different. Aside from a couple extraordinary peaks, such as his late 2012 push to glory, or his dominance of PvT last year, PartinG has been a paragon of mid-tier consistency in Korea. His famous record in the GSL cuts both ways—it’s remarkable that he’s managed to cope with different expansions, metas and teams well enough to maintain relevance for so many years, but it’s also valid to question whether he could ever have achieved more.

People struggle enough to achieve the NesTea award—staying in Code S for ten seasons—so to one up it by making the Round of 16 ten times in a row is a singular achievement that will probably never be matched. However, that has to be countered by looking at his record in the latter rounds—he’s only made one final and one semifinal. It’s clear that he’s much more dangerous in weekend competitions, and it’s his record there that’s truly fearsome.

Maybe that’s what he needs to kickstart his Legacy campaign again—hell, he wasn’t exactly disappointing the last time we saw him back at Dreamhack Winter. It’s not clear why he’s been a non-factor so far this year, with constant rumours that he’s trying to join a Chinese team. He didn’t even bother to qualify for GSL / SSL in Season 1, while losing 0-2 to Blaze and ByuN in the S2 qualifiers is hardly inspiring. Who knows if he’s even playing the game anymore—had he not been announced for this event, it would’ve been fair to assume he’d retired. Still, his presence gives this event the gravitas it needs. Should he blaze his way to the top off his trademark top 1 control, he’d truly drop the joker into the current Korean card game. There’s no doubt that we could all use some old school PartinG charm, whether inside or outside the server. Should he fail though, this could well be the last time we see him play. Fewer and fewer of the WoL greats are left; it’s time for PartinG to make his stand.


The Regulars



We’ve seen these players so many times already that there’s not too much to add on them, especially considering our upcoming coverage for the fast-approaching Summer Championships in two weeks time. Still, that’s not to say that this is a disappointing lineup. (P)Has is the headliner, as ever, and the fact that the NSL runs a group stage in the Round of 16 means we’re guaranteed at least two series of insanity (more potentially, given the fact that his group isn’t the strongest). He’s likely not the challenger that (T)uThermal would have likely picked. The Dutch terran has dominated the headlines in Shanghai over the weekend, first with great TvZ, and then against Neeb in the final. As has been said before though, playing Has is practically a different matchup to playing any other protoss, and the IEM champion will want to take care to avoid slipping up so soon after his triumph.

Group B sees (Z)Bly join PartinG. One constant of Starcraft throughout its expansions is that the aggressive champions of the early months are slowly phased out in favour of more macro oriented cerebral players as the game becomes more understood. Of course, there are counterexamples—MC and Life, for example—but they’re such outstanding talents that they transcend those rules, while also being capable of more standard games. Since his landmark silver at Dreamhack Leipzig, Bly has dropped off the map, exiting early from all competitions. After failing to qualify for the WCS Summer Championships, this is the sole event on the horizon for the Ukranian zerg.

Next up are two big hitters. (Z)Snute was the first victim that uThermal claimed in his tournament run, and his inability to cope with mass reaper aggression will have been noted by (T)MarineLorD. Both players have fallen painfully short this year—Snute with his remarkable 2 silvers and 4 top four finishes in Legacy so far, while MarineLorD’s silver at Dreamhack Valencia will have been tough to take. In that event, MarineLorD looked to have made a stunning return to form—3-0 Bly, 3-0 Stephano, 3-0 Neeb, 3-0 Snute—before being completely pantsed by Nerchio 4-0 in the final. That tells you two things; that Nerchio stands far apart from the rest of the foreign zerg contingent (in ZvT, at least), and that MarineLorD’s old weaknesses aren’t quite fixed yet. He still lacks the killer instinct to end games decisively, and while that’s fine against weaker players, it hurts him when the opposition is good enough to ride the wave.

Finally, we’ve got (P)PtitDrogo and (Z)Scarlett rounding off Group D. Drogo’s PvT has been his weak link over the past few months—bopped out of HSC and IEM Shanghai by MaSa, and WCS Spring by Bunny, leading to a sub-50% winrate. Luckily, that’s not a factor here—it’s a pure PvZ group for him. Much like Bly though, Drogo has dropped off considerably since the start of the year—disappointing performances since his top 4 finish at WCS Shanghai in March have made it five events in a row without a top 8. For Scarlett too, this is a big event. Her silver at HSC was her first premier final since late 2013—a major disappointment given that she looked primed for success following the WCS reforms in 2015. We’ve barely seen her at all aside from that one standout event, with early exits across the board, including heartbreak in the GSL / SSL qualifiers. Ahead of WCS Summer, she’ll be looking to prove that HSC was no one-off success this year.


The Chinese Contingent



Throughout the early days of HotS, China was always hyped up as the Next Big Thing. The success of their players in WCS America from 2013-14 led many to believe that they were the second strongest Starcraft region in the world. And yet, what was the result in 2015, with the eviction of (most of) the Koreans? Absolute carnage. With twelve attempts stretched out across the three seasons, China made the Round of 16 a mere three times, with none of those three progressing to the playoffs. A combined map score of 31-60 is a fair representation of the weakness of those players throughout the year. Hell, you could argue that Taiwan could’ve just sent Has by himself, and they’d still have outperformed China.

With Jim declined from his peak in 2013, there is no figurehead for the Chinese scene to rally behind, no leader with a target on his back for the rest of the scene to chase. It’s difficult to grow a scene with a bunch of mediocre players; if one player strives for greatness though, others will look to follow. China has the numbers and the infrastructure to pull plenty of talent into the Starcraft scene—their WCS qualifiers last year were full-blown tournaments in their own right in the shape of the GPL. All they need now is for a new star to rise.

There’s no doubt that some of the Chinese players at this event are more well-known than others. (Z)TooDming and (Z)iAsonu are seasoned WCS campaigners after all, but neither is in top shape right now. Both were immediately dumped out of IEM Shanghai by ShoWTimE and Neeb, and although PtitDrogo’s clearly a step or two below the current kings of foreign protoss, he’s still probably not too worried about them. ZvZ is a different issue though—TooDming is currently the top ZvZer in China, as well as the champion of the recent GPL S2. The basic fundamentals of ZvZ aren’t changed too much from HotS, and TooDming’s adept at both ling-bane and roach play (as Scarlett herself learned in one of the standout moments of 2014).

Beyond that though, the players start to become known only to fans of the Leifeng Cup. (P)Jieshi (AKA Mystery) showed us some entertaining games last year, notably baffling TooDming last year in the GPL (VOD here) with the same kind of mass oracle PvZ strat that Has deployed on viOLet last week. In 2016 though he’s been very quiet, sticking with online events for the most part. You’d suspect that Snute will run him ragged, given his struggles against zerg this year—Bly and Scarlett are the only two reputable zergs he’s beaten all year, and he’s been pretty much 50/50 against local opposition. Then again, with Snute famed for solid orthodoxy, tactics out of the norm could well be the way to go. It’s a similar story with PvT—holds his own against the locals, but is solidly outclassed by anyone else. Having to beat one of Snute and MarineLorD to make it out is going to be tough.

The other player in the group will be the rookie (T)TIME. TIME’s not been around for very long, only kicking into gear in 2015, but he’s already developed a reputation as an up-and-coming terran. Unfortunately, he’s been dumped into the hardest group, and can’t be expected to do much here. He’s struggled against Jieshi this year (8-3 in favour of the protoss), while his strength in TvT is neutered by MarineLorD’s similar preference—the Frenchman sports a 79% winrate for the year, and is unbeaten since March. Still, he’s looked good enough on the times I’ve seen him in the Leifeng Cup, and hopefully he’ll show glimpses of why he’s so highly rated internally to a worldwide audience. Born in 2000 (something that terrifies me), he’s got plenty of time left to develop into a more threatening player.

While we’re ticking off terrans, (T)Chick and (T)Coffee are next up. XY might be the top terran in China right now (unavailable to play here due to sponsorship conflicts), but together, this triplet are regarded as the future of Chinese terran play. We’ve actually seen Coffee play offline this year already—he made it through the WCS Shanghai Open Bracket, before losing to PtitDrogo and Harstem in groups. Their problem though is that they share a group with PartinG. Since 2012, PartinG’s eaten terrans for breakfast, and he’s got a strong claim to be ranked the #1 PvTer in Starcraft history. He could ignore everything new that Legacy offered protoss, tech straight up to blink stalkers, and I’d still back him to beat the two terrans through blink control alone. Bly though is a very different proposition, and undoubtedly the player that Chick and Coffee will target to get out of the group.

Finally, in Group A we have (Z)Silky and (P)Cyan. Neither is particularly noteworthy, although Cyan should at least be a player you’ve heard of. We saw him last year at IEM Shenzhen (eliminated 0-4 by herO and uThermal) as well as just this last weekend (eliminated 1-3 by Nerchio). His sole map win over Nerchio was pretty much Chinese protoss 101—open DTs, transition to mass blink stalkers with immortals, and add in a couple of disruptors for a Legacy twist. While uThermal probably has too much firepower for him, don’t expect Has to brush past him too lightly. Rounding off the group is the weakest and least well-known of the sixteen players attending this event. Silky was the beneficiary of XY’s forfeit, winning the CN qualifier to take the final spot in the competition. Still, given how mediocre the bracket was, he can’t be given that much credit. His online results are poor, especially in ZvT, and the rest of the group should make short work of him.


Credits:
Writers: munch
Editors: munch
Graphics: munch
Stats: Aligulac.

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Coypirus
Profile Joined February 2015
119 Posts
August 01 2016 01:05 GMT
#2
. The Dutch protoss has dominated the headlines in Shanghai over the weekend, first with great TvZ, and then against Neeb in the final.
uThermal is terran.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3392 Posts
August 01 2016 01:10 GMT
#3
liquipedia links to wrong tourney.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 01:31:36
August 01 2016 01:31 GMT
#4
So happy to finally see Parting again, hopefully he is somewhat decent form!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 01:38:42
August 01 2016 01:35 GMT
#5
I'm no PartinG fanboy, but I'd say he's just had some of the worst bracket luck out there with almost always getting his worst MU against one of, if not the strongest Zergs of the era when he goes deep.

7/9 of his ro8+ starleague runs he hit a strong Zerg. DRG (champ), Curious, Soulkey (champ), soO x2 (finalist), Life (champ), then ByuL (finalist). On top of that, the other two times he hit Mvp (the miracle worker) and Rain who both eventually won the same tournament xD.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15967 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 01:43:36
August 01 2016 01:43 GMT
#6
PartinG has been a paragon of mid-tier consistency in Korea.

I don't think PartinG was ever a mid-tier player. He maybe wasn't one of the absolute top players at times but he certainly always was above mid-tier.
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SC2FeaR1
Profile Joined June 2016
19 Posts
August 01 2016 02:13 GMT
#7
finally I don't have to read " maybe uThermal can get a breakout performance" anymore :D
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
August 01 2016 02:31 GMT
#8
I'm pretty sure this is the first Chinese non-Blizzard/Netease event to ever have a TL preview. Thanks for doing this.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 01 2016 02:33 GMT
#9
On August 01 2016 11:13 SC2FeaR1 wrote:
finally I don't have to read " maybe uThermal can get a breakout performance" anymore :D

now you get to read "maybe uThermal will prove he isn't a one off champion" every time
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
August 01 2016 02:37 GMT
#10
Also a small fact check: SL and NSL are actually different tournaments, NSL is a NeoTV brand with a pretty long history back to BW days, it is independent of the NSL team league currently going on.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 01 2016 02:47 GMT
#11
I hope Parting gets btfo
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
August 01 2016 02:59 GMT
#12
On August 01 2016 11:37 digmouse wrote:
Also a small fact check: SL and NSL are actually different tournaments, NSL is a NeoTV brand with a pretty long history back to BW days, it is independent of the NSL team league currently going on.


Apologies—I assumed from liquipedia that they were somewhat related given my lack of BW knowledge.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 03:03:53
August 01 2016 03:03 GMT
#13
On August 01 2016 11:59 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 11:37 digmouse wrote:
Also a small fact check: SL and NSL are actually different tournaments, NSL is a NeoTV brand with a pretty long history back to BW days, it is independent of the NSL team league currently going on.


Apologies—I assumed from liquipedia that they were somewhat related given my lack of BW knowledge.

No problem! They are related in the sense of using the same brand, but there is no aspiration or anything, mainline NSL events have always been offline.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 01 2016 03:10 GMT
#14
Interesting prize money distribution system - based on win margin.

Is this the first for a SC2 tourney (or any tourney, for that matter)?
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PockyStix
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada39 Posts
August 01 2016 03:20 GMT
#15
BRINGING BACK THE BIG BOY LETS GO LADS
KT best team
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 03:25:00
August 01 2016 03:24 GMT
#16
On August 01 2016 12:10 RKC wrote:
Interesting prize money distribution system - based on win margin.

Is this the first for a SC2 tourney (or any tourney, for that matter)?


Adapted from http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Kung_Fu_Cup/2016/1, organized by the same crew.
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thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
August 01 2016 03:55 GMT
#17
The link of Silky is still American Silky (Nick McNeese) instead of Chinese Silky (Yin Yong-xin)...
PS:
Two "Silky"s might meet each other during WCS Winter NA Server Qualifiers and ESL America Open.
However, they missed each other.
Kirito didn't meet Rikka.
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xenoZhang
Profile Joined July 2012
China142 Posts
August 01 2016 04:40 GMT
#18
PartinG hype!! (although I heard that he hasn't been training regularly lately.)

and nice to see Chinese local talents vs some Euro players, 探机 ftw !
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 01 2016 05:26 GMT
#19
Interested to see how Parting looks. He looked terrible at the end of 2015 and I haven't seen much of him since.
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
August 01 2016 06:09 GMT
#20
Paying has never been the same since skt destroyed his soul. Still, I'm always hopeful for him.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
August 01 2016 08:37 GMT
#21
I find it odd how skewed people's expectations are when a player who reaches the GSL ro16 ten times in a row, even going to the Finals once, on top of all his other achievents is called *only* mid Tier. The SC2 fandom's maintained attitude of "there really are only a handful of actually good players" is just bonkers. And I don't even like Parting.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 08:49:46
August 01 2016 08:46 GMT
#22
On August 01 2016 14:26 Phredxor wrote:
Interested to see how Parting looks. He looked terrible at the end of 2015 and I haven't seen much of him since.

A couple of weeks ago he was playing team games with the SPL casters in one of their shows. It was sad to watch PartinG be the worst player on a team with 2 casters.

Btw PartinG's elimination in the GSL qualifiers came at the hands of Sorry, so that tells you some things about his PvT.

On August 01 2016 15:09 zealotstim wrote:
Paying has never been the same since skt destroyed his soul. Still, I'm always hopeful for him.

I'm pretty sure he had one of his best years after leaving SKT.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-01 18:25:19
August 01 2016 18:23 GMT
#23
Come on PartinG and Has, make me proud boys!

[Edit] ..And as soon as I check Lickpiddy I see Has is already out :`(
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dyDrawer
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada438 Posts
August 01 2016 22:14 GMT
#24
I may be biased as a PartinG fanboy, but you'd be hard pressed to find a tournament that he's been in, big or small, where he was not considered a championship contender.

The same cannot be said of some other mid tier Korean players like Super or Trap (they are really good players, but you never seriously consider them as championship caliber in big leagues like the GSL). IMO PartinG was considered to be just a tiny step back (if at all) from the Protoss giants like Zest and Rain.
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warlocke
Profile Joined September 2015
97 Posts
August 02 2016 02:26 GMT
#25
I wonder how is parting's form now hmm
an average player whom can only F2 + a-move
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
August 02 2016 02:44 GMT
#26
On August 02 2016 11:26 warlocke wrote:
I wonder how is parting's form now hmm


http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5377913/
PartinG vs Jieshi (Mystery)
Though PartinG won the game, his power is much less than before truly.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 02 2016 08:50 GMT
#27
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
August 02 2016 08:51 GMT
#28
On August 02 2016 17:50 lestye wrote:
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.


Kung Fu Cup already does this with a DE playoffs bracket and one single BO7 grand finals.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 02 2016 09:09 GMT
#29
On August 02 2016 17:51 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 17:50 lestye wrote:
Really interested in the prize structure. Something I've always wanted tournaments to try, in a DE tournament, have whoever comes from the WB's get a nice bonus and have a non-winners advantage grand finals. That way you're still rewarded and the grand finals are still anyone's game/hype.


Kung Fu Cup already does this with a DE playoffs bracket and one single BO7 grand finals.

....oh..... Kung Fu Cup is so far ahead of its time, I can't believe it.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 09:35:51
August 02 2016 09:20 GMT
#30
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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August 02 2016 09:43 GMT
#31
On August 02 2016 18:20 Elentos wrote:
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.


I talked about this with xiaose extensively on this issue, and he came up with the conclusion that they are going to keep this as it is. For the winning player he gets to rest more and prepare for easier opponents, thus getting potentially more money than the 2nd place finisher, for the 2nd place player he can win more money but also bear the risk of going out with only one life.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 02 2016 09:50 GMT
#32
On August 02 2016 18:43 digmouse wrote:
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On August 02 2016 18:20 Elentos wrote:
I still think the prize distribution format needs work. It makes no sense to me that the 2nd place player in the group stage can earn as much money as or even more than the 1st place player. And for Kung Fu Cup it's not just that.

In the last Kung Fu Cup, before the grand finals Stats had won 2888 $, he only lost 2 and no matches maps in the whole tournament up to that point. TY made 2584 $ before the grand finals. He lost 2 matches and 6 maps total. So basically if Stats lost 2 more maps he and TY would have made even money up until the finals, even though Stats went to the finals through the winner bracket and TY through the loser bracket. Meaning the only advantage the winner bracket amounted to for Stats was that he had to play a few less matches.

So yeah, I hope the distribution is looked at again in the future.


I talked about this with xiaose extensively on this issue, and he came up with the conclusion that they are going to keep this as it is. For the winning player he gets to rest more and prepare for easier opponents, thus getting potentially more money than the 2nd place finisher, for the 2nd place player he can win more money but also bear the risk of going out with only one life.

But you can't guarantee the opponents are actually "easier" just because they finished 2nd in their group.
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