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Ladder Revamp

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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 19:44:19
June 22 2016 18:26 GMT
#1
Update 7/6
Reddit had a Live Q&A with the devs. Here are the big takeaways:

- Contender league is a parallel league that is always open, not just for the promotion window times. Players can be in Master league and Contender league at the same time, so it's more of a preview window of who will get into GM.
- MMR will not be reset (makes sense, no reason for it, only the presentation is changing)
- MMR will be visible on any player's profile in the Division View (e.g., here, in the bottom margin). You will not be able to see other players' MMRs outside of a game without going into their individual profile pages.
- The decision to show MMR outweighed the concern of ladder anxiety, so it cannot be hidden by a toggle in the Options menu, for example. However, it is not overly prominent in order to avoid toxic behavior (that's why you have to do some digging before you can find other players' MMRs).
- League sizes/population distribution will continue to happen on a seasonal basis, as it always has.
- MMRs will still not be comparable across regions (4k on one server may not carry the same meaning as 4k on another).
- The activity requirement for GM league changed from 180 bonus pool to 10 games per 3 weeks to allow pro players to travel without jeopardizing their ranking (plus the really good players could have difficulty spending bonus pool fast enough).
- The ladder revamp affects all expansion levels (WoL, HotS, LotV).
- Divisions were not removed so that the change to a more MMR-focused ladder would be less jarring. Therefore, players who enjoy the division system can still find fun in it.
- Demotions outside of GM will continue to be locked during a season.
- The rating bar that serves as a promotion indicator will warn you that you may be demoted next season if it goes into the negative. Additionally, hovering over the bar shows the exact MMR requirements to reach the next tier.

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June 28th update:

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The StarCraft II ranked ladder is one of the most challenging and competitive arenas in the video game world. Many enter, and only a few rise to the top. In order to be the best, you have to be able to track your progress and know how you stack up against the competition. There are two primary goals behind the revamping of the StarCraft II ladder system: increased accuracy and increased transparency. We believe the following changes, coming in Patch 3.4, are steps towards these goals.


Key points:

  • New ladder tab and progression system
  • New league tiers and icons
  • Revised league distribution
  • Grandmaster demotions everyday at 5pm local time
  • Bonus pool deactivated in GM






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David Kim and the Starcraft 2 development team have given us our first look at the new, revamped ranked ladder.

These changes include:

  • Fully visibly MMR for both you and your opponent
  • Progress bar to show progress towards promotion
  • Leagues broken into 3 tiers (new icons shown here)
  • Grandmaster League will have daily promotions and demotions
  • Various visual updates and improvements


The date of when these changers are to go through has no been given. It was also stated by Blizzard CM Rackle that separate MMR per race will be coming, but after this update.
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KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
June 22 2016 18:27 GMT
#2
Really great to see
Stimin myself on a daily basis
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 22 2016 18:28 GMT
#3
Not sure how big those changes really are but I am still happy about it
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-06 19:44:05
June 22 2016 18:29 GMT
#4
I had a pretty looking thread in the works but I'll guess we use this one because it's first :/

Anyway. This looks really cool. I'm glad we finally have some info on what was involved in the revamp. I was expecting a bit more grand scale change but just having MMR is nice.

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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
June 22 2016 18:31 GMT
#5
On June 23 2016 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I had a pretty looking thread in the works but I'll guess we use this one because it's first :/

Anyway. This looks really cool. I'm glad we finally have some info on what was involved in the revamp. I was expecting a bit more grand scale change but just having MMR is nice.

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Give me your post I will post it in the OP !
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
June 22 2016 18:35 GMT
#6
On June 23 2016 03:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I had a pretty looking thread in the works but I'll guess we use this one because it's first :/

Anyway. This looks really cool. I'm glad we finally have some info on what was involved in the revamp. I was expecting a bit more grand scale change but just having MMR is nice.

Poor SGTK
You should snipe the first post with a basic one, then gradually add your snazzy format and images!

Regarding the update...
I think it sounds nice. I have always thought MMR should be displayed, since, let's be real, that's what everyone cares about. I hope it ends up being an improvement to our current system, at the very least.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
June 22 2016 18:38 GMT
#7
So with GM having more of a role in WCS (at least, that's the intention with the daily promotions and demotions) does this mean demotivation for barcode user ids?
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Thorix77
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland12 Posts
June 22 2016 18:42 GMT
#8
Nice changes, might get me to play more starcraft again
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
June 22 2016 18:43 GMT
#9
Hell, it's about time!
Less is more.
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
June 22 2016 18:46 GMT
#10
Oh, this looks interesting!
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
June 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#11
Awesome changes! I would have liked a bit more details though for instance is the the 3 tiers within each league 3 equal size slices or not?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 22 2016 18:57 GMT
#12
About time, too bad they couldn't have done this years ago, but that is awesome!
When I think of something else, something will go here
iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 19:06:03
June 22 2016 18:59 GMT
#13
Best news since sc2 was launched literally a dream come true thanks it took an eternity but its here boys!... i wish this happened when HotS launched , it could literally saved thousends of people leaving..
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
June 22 2016 19:03 GMT
#14
Sweet changes, although it took them way too damn long.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
June 22 2016 19:05 GMT
#15
MMR? Pretty nice but a coherent ladder shoulda been in from WoL.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
June 22 2016 19:06 GMT
#16
On June 23 2016 04:03 GGzerG wrote:
Sweet changes, although it took them way too damn long.

Only 6 years since the game was first launched lol. I thought we were going to get more changes to the ladder but this is great to see nonetheless. Finally I'll know when I'm near a promotion, what my skill is according to MMR and ladder, demotions and promotions to GM.
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
June 22 2016 19:08 GMT
#17
Nice, this does restore a bit of passion to play again.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
June 22 2016 19:09 GMT
#18
Better late than never! It looks really great.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2016 19:09 GMT
#19
On June 23 2016 04:05 GumBa wrote:
MMR? Pretty nice but a coherent ladder shoulda been in from WoL.

There's a million things that should have been in for WoL. They say better late than never though
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
June 22 2016 19:10 GMT
#20
Great changes. I remember always using things like sc2gears with the MMR plugin just to get this info. Glad we can get it right in the game now. I like the progress to next league as well.
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