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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 19:18:58
May 27 2016 19:15 GMT
#41
On May 28 2016 04:11 Haighstrom wrote:
herO was the best protoss by a country mile in HOTS for far longer (about 5 ladder seasons) than Zest has been the best Protoss in HOTS/Legacy combined (one season each).

Zest was the best Protoss in HotS for just about all of 2014, I'm pretty sure that was more than 1 ladder season. And even if it wasn't, it was still many consecutive months.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
May 27 2016 21:15 GMT
#42
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 27 2016 21:16 GMT
#43
There is so many INnoVation fanboys in here, I'm very very impressed, I didn't know the guy has that many fanboy

I take this article as the highest form of compliment from stuchiu, considering how much he likes Mvp. If anything I would like to complain about, it would be that this is a bit too short (oh the hopeless fangirl me, I just want to read as much about Zest as I can)

Also it feels good to have Zest's face in the front page
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 27 2016 21:23 GMT
#44
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
Show nested quote +
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 27 2016 21:27 GMT
#45
On May 28 2016 06:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.


The real royal roader should be undefeated from the moment he bought the game
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 27 2016 21:29 GMT
#46
On May 28 2016 06:27 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 06:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.


The real royal roader should be undefeated from the moment he bought the game

Undefeated from the moment he's born.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 27 2016 21:34 GMT
#47
On May 28 2016 06:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 06:27 opisska wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.


The real royal roader should be undefeated from the moment he bought the game

Undefeated from the moment he's born.


Imagine that you are just about to get your sword, only to be finally caught by the terrible truth that you lost a round of runaround at the age of 3
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 27 2016 21:47 GMT
#48
P7GAB becoming a legend? who would've thought
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
May 27 2016 21:49 GMT
#49
On May 28 2016 06:34 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 06:29 Elentos wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:27 opisska wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.


The real royal roader should be undefeated from the moment he bought the game

Undefeated from the moment he's born.


Imagine that you are just about to get your sword, only to be finally caught by the terrible truth that you lost a round of runaround at the age of 3

A tragedy. GSL would become about literally finding the perfect human. The thought is hilarious.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 27 2016 22:00 GMT
#50
On May 28 2016 06:47 ]343[ wrote:
P7GAB becoming a legend? who would've thought


People didn't expect Flash to be a legend either, before he was great, he was just a cheesy kid

(what's with KT and their players unexpectedly becoming great)
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
May 27 2016 22:16 GMT
#51
What about Maru?
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
May 27 2016 22:17 GMT
#52
On May 28 2016 06:29 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 06:27 opisska wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:23 Elentos wrote:
On May 28 2016 06:15 esdf wrote:
on rain:
A player that was winning championships when Zest was struggling and failing to get out of Code B


Zest is a real royal roader, code B, code A, code S afaik. So basically, Zest never struggled in Code B.

Code B doesn't count towards the royal road. He flunked the qualifiers a bunch of times.


The real royal roader should be undefeated from the moment he bought the game

Undefeated from the moment he's born.

this is a bit over the top, but I kinda share the sentiment.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 22:52:35
May 27 2016 22:50 GMT
#53
On May 28 2016 03:09 opisska wrote:
I didn't get the logic of the article. If Zest has come from a bad year, why shouldn't the same be possible for soO and Innovation? How is the "they aren't in their prime" argument not disproven by the very previous paragraph? If Inno comes out and starts kicking ass, he's gonna have a far bigger GOAT claim than Zest anyway. It's just really forced into a conclusion.



exactly, you can find the same paradoxes in every one of his articles. on top of that the average stuchiu article usually has a lot of wrong information in it and is 90% based on whether he likes said player or not
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 27 2016 22:56 GMT
#54
While i like that Zest gets an own article i completely disagree with

and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements


No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion.
A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.
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MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
May 27 2016 23:09 GMT
#55
Reading this thread makes me think the people only read the title and not the article lol. It's pretty clear (from the first paragraph) that the Zest GOAT disscusion is currently powered less by his success in HotS and more by his absoultely dominating performance over the past few months
Innovation is a PatchTerran
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
May 27 2016 23:20 GMT
#56
On May 28 2016 07:16 Redrot wrote:
What about Maru?


i got you
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
May 27 2016 23:43 GMT
#57
On May 28 2016 07:16 Redrot wrote:
What about Maru?



See last part of the article...

Anyway, as good and incredible Maru is, his number of titles is very low compared to how long he's been playing. That's why he's not one of the "Titans", and unless he chain wins premier events in the 3 next years, it will be very hard for him to claim the greatest of all times' throne.

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 27 2016 23:47 GMT
#58
On May 28 2016 07:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
While i like that Zest gets an own article i completely disagree with

Show nested quote +
and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements


No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion.
A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.


Really? The players left may be more skilled now but i think it's hard to argue against there being less depth. Less teams, smaller rosters, it's pretty self explanatory i reckon. I miss 2012-2013 pro league with all the old BW names as well as GSTL finishing up.

Nice article stuchiu. Love me some Zest hype.
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
May 28 2016 00:17 GMT
#59
Attack from the Titan!
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 28 2016 00:28 GMT
#60
On May 28 2016 08:47 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 07:56 The_Red_Viper wrote:
While i like that Zest gets an own article i completely disagree with

and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements


No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion.
A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.


Really? The players left may be more skilled now but i think it's hard to argue against there being less depth. Less teams, smaller rosters, it's pretty self explanatory i reckon. I miss 2012-2013 pro league with all the old BW names as well as GSTL finishing up.

Nice article stuchiu. Love me some Zest hype.


The top 8 are roughly as good as a top 8's been throughout SC2; everyone below 8 has dropped off in quality.

Just compare #9-16 from KR 2012-2015 to now, for instance
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