On May 28 2016 04:11 Haighstrom wrote: herO was the best protoss by a country mile in HOTS for far longer (about 5 ladder seasons) than Zest has been the best Protoss in HOTS/Legacy combined (one season each).
Zest was the best Protoss in HotS for just about all of 2014, I'm pretty sure that was more than 1 ladder season. And even if it wasn't, it was still many consecutive months.
There is so many INnoVation fanboys in here, I'm very very impressed, I didn't know the guy has that many fanboy
I take this article as the highest form of compliment from stuchiu, considering how much he likes Mvp. If anything I would like to complain about, it would be that this is a bit too short (oh the hopeless fangirl me, I just want to read as much about Zest as I can)
Also it feels good to have Zest's face in the front page
On May 28 2016 03:09 opisska wrote: I didn't get the logic of the article. If Zest has come from a bad year, why shouldn't the same be possible for soO and Innovation? How is the "they aren't in their prime" argument not disproven by the very previous paragraph? If Inno comes out and starts kicking ass, he's gonna have a far bigger GOAT claim than Zest anyway. It's just really forced into a conclusion.
exactly, you can find the same paradoxes in every one of his articles. on top of that the average stuchiu article usually has a lot of wrong information in it and is 90% based on whether he likes said player or not
While i like that Zest gets an own article i completely disagree with
and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements
No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion. A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.
Reading this thread makes me think the people only read the title and not the article lol. It's pretty clear (from the first paragraph) that the Zest GOAT disscusion is currently powered less by his success in HotS and more by his absoultely dominating performance over the past few months
On May 28 2016 07:16 Redrot wrote: What about Maru?
See last part of the article...
Anyway, as good and incredible Maru is, his number of titles is very low compared to how long he's been playing. That's why he's not one of the "Titans", and unless he chain wins premier events in the 3 next years, it will be very hard for him to claim the greatest of all times' throne.
and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements
No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion. A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.
Really? The players left may be more skilled now but i think it's hard to argue against there being less depth. Less teams, smaller rosters, it's pretty self explanatory i reckon. I miss 2012-2013 pro league with all the old BW names as well as GSTL finishing up.
On May 28 2016 07:56 The_Red_Viper wrote: While i like that Zest gets an own article i completely disagree with
and possibly the last player that may be able to surpass Mvp as the Greatest SC2 player of All Time. While it is unfortunate that there is less depth than ever before in Korean SC2 with the number of retirements
No Zest isn't the only player and no korean sc2 doesn't have less depth than ever before either. You use this as a fact without any reasoning how you come to the conclusion. A lot of the so called "titans" in this article weren't relevant for a very long time, so that cannot be it.
Really? The players left may be more skilled now but i think it's hard to argue against there being less depth. Less teams, smaller rosters, it's pretty self explanatory i reckon. I miss 2012-2013 pro league with all the old BW names as well as GSTL finishing up.
Nice article stuchiu. Love me some Zest hype.
The top 8 are roughly as good as a top 8's been throughout SC2; everyone below 8 has dropped off in quality.
Just compare #9-16 from KR 2012-2015 to now, for instance
EPT
