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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
These...actually make some sense. No, it's not DK, it can't be. On a more serious note, since they want to make underused units viable again, what direction should the BC take? Personally, I'd like to see the tactical jump nerfed and it's attacks changed from peashooters with high atk spd to slow hard hitting. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On May 13 2016 20:25 ihatevideogames wrote: Someone else is posing as DK, I refuse to believe the real DK is considering these changes. These...actually make some sense. No, it's not DK, it can't be. Meh, we said the same thing when they tested the removal of the Tankvac and buffed dmg. Let's wait to see what actually makes it in to the game before singing to much praise. | ||
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PressureSC2
122 Posts
On May 13 2016 18:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: ...Throw in a tempest supply change to 5 or 6 and we're golden. Good job DK. Just making sure David Kim sees this. | ||
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JackONeill
861 Posts
> implying DK or anyone in the dev team actually reads anything on the very forum where they ask for feedback User was warned for this post | ||
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PharaphobiaSC
Czech Republic457 Posts
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JackONeill
861 Posts
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BaronVonOwn
299 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On May 13 2016 22:09 JackONeill wrote: What I don't get is the immortal barrier thing. I mean 100 shield or 200 shield, you're never able to burst it down in 2 seconds, unless in extreme scenarii. Barrier will still, i guess, mean your immortal isn't taking real damage for 2 secs. Focus fire with Tanks? Lurkers, other Immortals | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
What I don't get is the immortal barrier thing. I mean 100 shield or 200 shield, you're never able to burst it down in 2 seconds The 200 shield does drop, it depends on the type of fight and unit counts. 100 shield will drop waaaaaaay more often. If you walk into 4 lurkers they will instantly activate and break through a 100 shield because the first volley does 120 dmg AOE to armored | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
On May 13 2016 18:38 [PkF] Wire wrote: When you've lost hope for SC2 after countless painfully out of touch updates (the +bio AA cannon change being the most remarkable one), DK throws at you incredibly sensible updates that may actually make the game reach the best state it has been in for ages. Throw in a tempest supply change to 5 or 6 and we're golden. Good job DK. No clue how this isn't on the table, late game mass Tempest is absurd, DK fearing all of these crappy units like the Cyclone and Swarm Host getting massed but isn't afraid of mass Tempest? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Tresher
Germany404 Posts
On May 13 2016 22:37 Sapphire.lux wrote: Focus fire with Tanks? Lurkers, other Immortals While the other handful of Immortals shoot your Tanks into bits. If you are using Tanks against Immortals (or Protoss in general) you are doing it wrong anyways. | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2656 Posts
That actually sounds like an awful idea, much to better to focus stuff that would actually die. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On May 14 2016 01:42 Lexender wrote: That actually sounds like an awful idea, much to better to focus stuff that would actually die. A zealot costs 100 resources and has 150hp An immortal costs 350 resources and has 300(+100) hp Why wouldn't you shoot at it? Even if you're DPSing through the entirety of the immortal's shield, it has 2.67x the health and 3.5x the cost. It's also balanced around being slower and harder to produce and replace in your army than gateway units. If someone could kill 4-5 zealots or 2 immortals, i'd rather give them the zealots practically 100% of the time! | ||
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
Tempest lose to all other anti air in direct fights, are super slow, at the end of the tech tree and they lose really hard vs marines and hydras. Cyclone has insane damage and can attack all units and is really early tech and swarm host does massive damage without risk of losing the unit. So many terran whiny kids around here, first time terran is not super dominant and they cry :p | ||
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Freeborn
Germany421 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On May 14 2016 01:55 Freeborn wrote: Oh btw stimmed marines/marauders easily massacre 200 shield in 1-2 sec. You can think of it as a +66.67% hp augmentation before in a hard engagement with focus fire on it vs +33.34% if nerfed to 100. Barrier CD is actually quite long, it's a 2 second activation on 43 second cooldown | ||
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BaronVonOwn
299 Posts
On May 14 2016 01:54 Freeborn wrote: Why is everybody complaining about mass tempest? Tempest lose to all other anti air in direct fights, are super slow, at the end of the tech tree and they lose really hard vs marines and hydras. Cyclone has insane damage and can attack all units and is really early tech and swarm host does massive damage without risk of losing the unit. So many terran whiny kids around here, first time terran is not super dominant and they cry :p I guess people see a big unit and assume it ought to cost a lot of supply. But one tempest has dps somewhere between a roach and an infested terran, for the low cost of 300/200. If you're losing to mass tempest I'd love for you to post the replay, for a laugh. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16035 Posts
On May 14 2016 01:54 Freeborn wrote: Why is everybody complaining about mass tempest? Tempest lose to all other anti air in direct fights, are super slow, at the end of the tech tree and they lose really hard vs marines and hydras. Cyclone has insane damage and can attack all units and is really early tech and swarm host does massive damage without risk of losing the unit. So many terran whiny kids around here, first time terran is not super dominant and they cry :p When the protoss is slowly pushing with mass tempests with cannons, hts, and maybe disruptors underneath there is no way to fight his army while he is slowly picking of unit after unit. So no they don't lose to other anti-air or marines/hydras because those units can never engage into them. Once protoss gets to that stage there is not much you can do anymore but reading your thoughts about cyclones and swarmhosts I assume you are a troll so no point in discussing any more. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
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