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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 15:44:18
April 22 2016 15:30 GMT
#101
brain dead? i think therefore i am not brain dead.
sorry i'm not brain dead.

in reply to your comment:
+ Show Spoiler +

human productive effort is the root of money. i consider that good. those pieces of paper in your wallet are your statement of hope that someone somewhere will not default on the trading principle that is money.

another thought that proves i'm not brain dead.
i knew it would only be a matter of time before you'd start hurling personal insults. LOL.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
April 22 2016 15:30 GMT
#102
On April 22 2016 20:52 JackONeill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 20:49 Ingvar wrote:
On April 22 2016 19:40 JackONeill wrote:
LOTV is hemoraging players. People are widely frustrated when playing the game, and their voice isn't heard since blizz/DK considers the game is in a good place design-wise. DO DESIGN CHANGES FROM COMMUNITY POLLS.

You should understand that community polls are usually skewed. For example, when there is a controversial article on a site with rating system, it may itself have huge differential in favour of upvotes but the most upvoted comments would be negative. Frustrated people are more likely to do something (like vote in community polls) than content one.


I agree. That's why the polls should appear on the main page of starcraft 2. You log into the game, and you have an option to vote with your account. This way, pretty much every single player will eventually vote, while pro feedback can be harvested through other ways.
Of course a TL or Bnet forums poll is biais, so the best way to avoid it is to make sure that players logging regurarly in the game pretty much all vote.

This wasn't done for beta and won't be done for full release. Stop dreaming
(I was suggesting it in beta)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
April 22 2016 15:33 GMT
#103
btw C&C have suffered from similar problems as well as AoE, that's why they're dead
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 15:39:46
April 22 2016 15:34 GMT
#104
On April 23 2016 00:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
brain dead? i think therefore i am not brain dead.
sorry i'm not brain dead.

in reply to your comment:

human productive effort is the root of money. i consider that good.

another thought that proves i'm not brain dead.

i knew it would only be a matter of time before you'd start hurling personal insults. LOL.

That's because you know you deserve it.

There are many roots for money, sometimes just pure inactivity or speculation (did you not know that?). Also "money is the root of all good" is what you said originally. If you're not stupid, you're probably just a liar. Like DK, that's why you "respect" him
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 15:47:36
April 22 2016 15:42 GMT
#105
i think the money-philosophy stuff belongs in PMs not here.

i think DK is an honest guy and is as transparent as he can be. if you think he is a liar and that makes him bad.... well LOL.. its hilarious you're in this forum and discussing his game.

back to actual SC2 feedback...
i don't like it when i get put in tournaments with all Diamond players while i'm playing my Protoss platinum account. i hope this can be fixed. Maybe my account is due for a promotion. However, i've been slaughtered each of the 4 times i've been put in a diamond tournament with my protoss platinum account.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
April 22 2016 15:51 GMT
#106
it's not his game and I can write about SC2 even if I don't play or like it
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
April 22 2016 16:11 GMT
#107
On April 22 2016 21:25 FoxDog wrote:

What about the stupid design, ghost 175 dmg snipe but can be canceled, ultra 8 armor, liberators, invincible nydus, thor/battlecruiser/reaper/viking/raven/widowmine/hellion/hellbat being useless and not incoorporated into the army but they are prioritizing buffing the swarmhost?!


Wow you never open reaper into reactor helions in TvZ?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10861 Posts
April 22 2016 16:32 GMT
#108
On April 22 2016 03:08 OzhMa wrote:
and still no changes whatsoever. This pathetic nonsense, a pitiful mixture of excuses, doubts, uncertainties and justifications, every week is freaking glorious.
We think X may be broken, but we are not sure about that so may be we will put this on the testmap or may be not, we have not decided yet because korean pros think its not a good idea, so we'll do nothing and next week will continue pouring our doubts about some other random stuff being broken on you, or may be not, we are not so sure, we will go and ask some pros, may be they are some korean pros, noone knows for sure. We call this communication. Best regards, blizzard. p.s. gonna doublepost this on reddit.


This is how I feel too, well said lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:15:51
April 22 2016 17:07 GMT
#109
On April 23 2016 00:51 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
it's not his game and I can write about SC2 even if I don't play or like it

THIS game.
its pretty cool that you don't play. your comments can be weighed accordingly.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-23 04:43:54
April 22 2016 17:15 GMT
#110
On April 23 2016 00:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i think DK is an honest guy and is as transparent as he can be. if you think he is a liar and that makes him bad.... well LOL.. its hilarious you're in this forum and discussing his game.

it makes no sense, what is your point if what you wanted to write was "this game"
ok bye

i don't play and I understand better than you because I have skill in RTS from playing better games^^ (got master in SC2 easy in 3 weeks, playing custom crazy builds the first 2 and "meta" the next - when master was top 2%)
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 22 2016 17:18 GMT
#111
On April 22 2016 21:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
please don't put Boxer and Avilo in the same paragraph. it destroys any credibility your post might have. Boxer was an innovator on the cutting edge of Brood War. Even in SC2 ... Slayers Team frying every opponent with +15 Blue Flame Hellions at MLG-Anaheim prompted the Hellion nerf.


I was using blue flame hellion drops every TvT before slayers found out about it. Ask painuser or anyone that played the game at that time or played me on ladder

I did innovate a ton of stuff in SC2, whether or not i won with it, that people always later adopt themselves because they realize how strong it is.

You do not have to win every single tourney to have come up with something people will copy. I happen to do it with every single race, at masters/gm level. Hell, i've even beaten some korean pros on ladder in the past simply because i understand the next level meta quite well, even if i don't have 800 apm.

Also FYI, in those early MLGS, i won almost 99% of my TvTs going mech every game with blue flame hellions (the MLGs b4 MLG anaheim too where slayers basically copied the fast blue flame drop).

Just ask anyone - people were deathly afraid of playing me in TvT. Admittedly my TvP / TvZ sucked monkey balls back then lol.
Sup
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:39:26
April 22 2016 17:26 GMT
#112
i used Blue Flame Hellions in the first week of March 2010 as soon as i saw i got +15 against light....
while you were still begging people for a beta key in March of 2010 on Gr.Org... ask AGMLauncher..

does that mean that i taught you .. and you taught Boxer and so i'm Boxer's grand-daddy?

Boxer is an innovator at the top level of play.. you are not..and neither am i.

this is right up there with you claiming you invented the double-wall in RA3.

On April 23 2016 02:18 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 21:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
please don't put Boxer and Avilo in the same paragraph. it destroys any credibility your post might have. Boxer was an innovator on the cutting edge of Brood War. Even in SC2 ... Slayers Team frying every opponent with +15 Blue Flame Hellions at MLG-Anaheim prompted the Hellion nerf.


I was using blue flame hellion drops every TvT before slayers found out about it. Ask painuser or anyone that played the game at that time or played me on ladder

I did innovate a ton of stuff in SC2, whether or not i won with it, that people always later adopt themselves because they realize how strong it is.

You do not have to win every single tourney to have come up with something people will copy. I happen to do it with every single race, at masters/gm level. Hell, i've even beaten some korean pros on ladder in the past simply because i understand the next level meta quite well, even if i don't have 800 apm.

Also FYI, in those early MLGS, i won almost 99% of my TvTs going mech every game with blue flame hellions (the MLGs b4 MLG anaheim too where slayers basically copied the fast blue flame drop).

Just ask anyone - people were deathly afraid of playing me in TvT. Admittedly my TvP / TvZ sucked monkey balls back then lol.


here is a TvT i recall that you lost pretty easily...

funny how when the spot light of tournament play is placed upon you... reality sets in



it was an entertaining game. you are an entertaining character and are full value for every twitch subscriber you have.. but please do not claim you taught boxer anything.

how you were remembered by the $100 tournaments was that you were a good NA player always somewhere near the top 200 of the NA ladder who won nothing.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:39:15
April 22 2016 17:37 GMT
#113
avilo didn't claim he taught boxer and it looks like he has much deeper understanding of SC2 and of its flaws which jjr seems utterly unable to acknowledge in his continued efforts to blindly praise the profits of blizzard

maybe this guy is one of those paid forum posters lawl

bully bully trying to make other feel bad pointing out one loss, must be jealous he never won an actual tournament too
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:41:35
April 22 2016 17:40 GMT
#114
i provide evidence to back up my claims. if you have actual data and evidence and some kind of sources to back up your claims it makes your posts more credible.

Naniwa routinely rofl-stomped every CraftCup he played in. which wasn't many. the stuff he did to top NA GMs.. shouldn't happen to a dog. they were brutal beatings man.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
April 22 2016 17:41 GMT
#115
random evidence makes no back up to meaningless claim
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17879 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:46:52
April 22 2016 17:43 GMT
#116
here is 1 small sample, which is more than you are providing.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/CraftCup

On April 23 2016 02:41 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
random evidence makes no back up to meaningless claim


its not random. the meaningless claim is that Avilo somehow innovated a technique Boxer used.

Guys like Naniwa and Boxer were just on another level. It ain't even close. Which is why they won the money they won and Avilo.. won? what? a few debates on GR.ORg?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 17:45:49
April 22 2016 17:45 GMT
#117
avilo is a god you heathen, you will burn in the mech hell while the Raven God will reign supreme in the Planetary Fortress Kingdom
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
PressureSC2
Profile Joined January 2016
122 Posts
April 22 2016 17:50 GMT
#118
It's the opposite of what they want, because they want to sell more games, as much stuff as possible, so if you stop playing after a few years and buy their next they're happiest. The shareholder board does not want the company to make really great games again.


This is actually the part that disappoints me, and that makes me sad. Time to accept reality perhaps. Brood war was like the old washing machine that would last 20 years. No money or extended warranties to be made out of those...


Mojzii1
Profile Joined March 2016
30 Posts
April 22 2016 21:35 GMT
#119
On April 23 2016 02:50 PressureSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
It's the opposite of what they want, because they want to sell more games, as much stuff as possible, so if you stop playing after a few years and buy their next they're happiest. The shareholder board does not want the company to make really great games again.


This is actually the part that disappoints me, and that makes me sad. Time to accept reality perhaps. Brood war was like the old washing machine that would last 20 years. No money or extended warranties to be made out of those...




I doubt its a true, if starcraft 2 would hit big as broodwar it would earn way way WAY more than relasing even few more games. Tourneys n stuff.
FoxDog
Profile Joined October 2007
170 Posts
April 23 2016 20:42 GMT
#120
On April 23 2016 02:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i used Blue Flame Hellions in the first week of March 2010 as soon as i saw i got +15 against light....
while you were still begging people for a beta key in March of 2010 on Gr.Org... ask AGMLauncher..

does that mean that i taught you .. and you taught Boxer and so i'm Boxer's grand-daddy?

Boxer is an innovator at the top level of play.. you are not..and neither am i.

this is right up there with you claiming you invented the double-wall in RA3.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 02:18 avilo wrote:
On April 22 2016 21:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
please don't put Boxer and Avilo in the same paragraph. it destroys any credibility your post might have. Boxer was an innovator on the cutting edge of Brood War. Even in SC2 ... Slayers Team frying every opponent with +15 Blue Flame Hellions at MLG-Anaheim prompted the Hellion nerf.


I was using blue flame hellion drops every TvT before slayers found out about it. Ask painuser or anyone that played the game at that time or played me on ladder

I did innovate a ton of stuff in SC2, whether or not i won with it, that people always later adopt themselves because they realize how strong it is.

You do not have to win every single tourney to have come up with something people will copy. I happen to do it with every single race, at masters/gm level. Hell, i've even beaten some korean pros on ladder in the past simply because i understand the next level meta quite well, even if i don't have 800 apm.

Also FYI, in those early MLGS, i won almost 99% of my TvTs going mech every game with blue flame hellions (the MLGs b4 MLG anaheim too where slayers basically copied the fast blue flame drop).

Just ask anyone - people were deathly afraid of playing me in TvT. Admittedly my TvP / TvZ sucked monkey balls back then lol.


here is a TvT i recall that you lost pretty easily...

funny how when the spot light of tournament play is placed upon you... reality sets in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZYkTyw0GIQ

it was an entertaining game. you are an entertaining character and are full value for every twitch subscriber you have.. but please do not claim you taught boxer anything.

how you were remembered by the $100 tournaments was that you were a good NA player always somewhere near the top 200 of the NA ladder who won nothing.


Why do you compare "getting" an uppgrade to using hellion drops as a means of harassment at a time when nobody else was doing it?

In my book, anyone who is first at something is the guy who innovated it, and on NA avilo innovated this independently of anyone else.
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