• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:19
CEST 02:19
KST 09:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft? Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10207 users

Community Feedback Update - April 21 - Page 8

Forum Index > SC2 General
142 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 26 2016 07:27 GMT
#141
Of course the photon cannon buff vs. bio air is a bandaid - everything blizzard does is a bandaid. You probably don't even notice it anymore, but the bottoms of your ramps have some random rocks lying around (or even a neutral supply depot, presumably built by emperor mengsk some 50 years ago) for the sole purpose of preventing me from blocking your ramp with buildings.

A game that is so unhealthily centered on esports will inevitably be balanced by bandaids and become an incoherent mess that no sane person could ever understand. Remember how in 2011 we were all so happy that SC2 tournaments had mass appeal because you can more or less understand what is happening even if you've never played the game? Good luck with that now LOL. Mommy, why does that thor shoot 8 rockets but only do damage to one of the enemy air units? Son, thats because the anti-air capabilities of terran were deemed to not work well and were shuffled around in may 2016.

Anyway, here are my balance change suggestions. Increase supply to 500, make 3vs3 the mandatory mode of competition and create some giant-ass 3vs3 maps. We'd get a good laugh out of it at least.
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
April 26 2016 07:35 GMT
#142
On April 26 2016 16:27 Surth wrote:
Of course the photon cannon buff vs. bio air is a bandaid - everything blizzard does is a bandaid. You probably don't even notice it anymore, but the bottoms of your ramps have some random rocks lying around (or even a neutral supply depot, presumably built by emperor mengsk some 50 years ago) for the sole purpose of preventing me from blocking your ramp with buildings.

A game that is so unhealthily centered on esports will inevitably be balanced by bandaids and become an incoherent mess that no sane person could ever understand. Remember how in 2011 we were all so happy that SC2 tournaments had mass appeal because you can more or less understand what is happening even if you've never played the game? Good luck with that now LOL. Mommy, why does that thor shoot 8 rockets but only do damage to one of the enemy air units? Son, thats because the anti-air capabilities of terran were deemed to not work well and were shuffled around in may 2016.

Anyway, here are my balance change suggestions. Increase supply to 500, make 3vs3 the mandatory mode of competition and create some giant-ass 3vs3 maps. We'd get a good laugh out of it at least.

We wouldn't because guess what - the engine cannot handle that.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 13:14:20
April 28 2016 13:13 GMT
#143
On April 26 2016 08:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 03:51 B-royal wrote:
It's really tiring to see JimmyJRaynor always pop up. He's always there to save the day and share his knowledge on the internal workings of Blizzard, it's budget allocation or the absolute brilliance of its CEO, David Kim or any of their associates.

Always there to derail the thread, talking about things that people don't care about or that shouldn't be cared about.

This time it's about Avilo's supposed TvT win ratings and his claim to have played a role in innovating a match-up.


someone stated Avilo was an innovator like Boxer and i disagreed. I never made the claim. I merely disagreed and explained why. and then it just went on and on and on... Then Avilo jumped in and said .. ya man 5 years ago i had a 99% winnning rate in TvT.

i merely added my take on the derailed topic which actually contains real evidence and not hearsay unlike the individuals who hold opposing views.

and ya, i'm really enjoying LotV and i like how DK has changed LotV from HotS and i like the state of multiplayer from my random-race diamond league perspective which is only a small slice of the cross section of people Mr. Kim must please to make this a successful product. Greg Black is doing a great job too!


You are right. I made that post when I was in a bad mood, I apologize. But anyway, there's no point in trying to dismiss such assertions.

If you have a 99% win rate in a match-up, it's because you've chosen your opponents wisely.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Prev 1 6 7 8 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
CranKy Ducklings17
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL Team League S11 POG vs ASH
Freeedom24
Liquipedia
OSC
22:00
Vespene Cup #1
SteadfastSC132
davetesta21
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
21:35
Best Games of HSC
Lambo vs SKillous
uThermal vs Gerald
SKillous vs Serral
ShoWTimE vs Arrogfire
Clem vs Elazer
Reynor vs Jumy
PiGStarcraft562
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft562
ViBE148
SteadfastSC 132
NeuroSwarm 131
UpATreeSC 76
JuggernautJason34
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 18
Terrorterran 1
Counter-Strike
summit1g8600
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King87
Other Games
tarik_tv4500
C9.Mang0291
Maynarde87
PPMD26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick39064
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21545
Other Games
• imaqtpie1282
• Shiphtur281
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 41m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
9h 41m
Afreeca Starleague
9h 41m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
SC Evo League
11h 41m
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IPSL
15h 41m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
15h 41m
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
IPSL
1d 15h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.