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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 26 2016 07:27 GMT
#141
Of course the photon cannon buff vs. bio air is a bandaid - everything blizzard does is a bandaid. You probably don't even notice it anymore, but the bottoms of your ramps have some random rocks lying around (or even a neutral supply depot, presumably built by emperor mengsk some 50 years ago) for the sole purpose of preventing me from blocking your ramp with buildings.

A game that is so unhealthily centered on esports will inevitably be balanced by bandaids and become an incoherent mess that no sane person could ever understand. Remember how in 2011 we were all so happy that SC2 tournaments had mass appeal because you can more or less understand what is happening even if you've never played the game? Good luck with that now LOL. Mommy, why does that thor shoot 8 rockets but only do damage to one of the enemy air units? Son, thats because the anti-air capabilities of terran were deemed to not work well and were shuffled around in may 2016.

Anyway, here are my balance change suggestions. Increase supply to 500, make 3vs3 the mandatory mode of competition and create some giant-ass 3vs3 maps. We'd get a good laugh out of it at least.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 26 2016 07:35 GMT
#142
On April 26 2016 16:27 Surth wrote:
Of course the photon cannon buff vs. bio air is a bandaid - everything blizzard does is a bandaid. You probably don't even notice it anymore, but the bottoms of your ramps have some random rocks lying around (or even a neutral supply depot, presumably built by emperor mengsk some 50 years ago) for the sole purpose of preventing me from blocking your ramp with buildings.

A game that is so unhealthily centered on esports will inevitably be balanced by bandaids and become an incoherent mess that no sane person could ever understand. Remember how in 2011 we were all so happy that SC2 tournaments had mass appeal because you can more or less understand what is happening even if you've never played the game? Good luck with that now LOL. Mommy, why does that thor shoot 8 rockets but only do damage to one of the enemy air units? Son, thats because the anti-air capabilities of terran were deemed to not work well and were shuffled around in may 2016.

Anyway, here are my balance change suggestions. Increase supply to 500, make 3vs3 the mandatory mode of competition and create some giant-ass 3vs3 maps. We'd get a good laugh out of it at least.

We wouldn't because guess what - the engine cannot handle that.
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 13:14:20
April 28 2016 13:13 GMT
#143
On April 26 2016 08:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
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On April 26 2016 03:51 B-royal wrote:
It's really tiring to see JimmyJRaynor always pop up. He's always there to save the day and share his knowledge on the internal workings of Blizzard, it's budget allocation or the absolute brilliance of its CEO, David Kim or any of their associates.

Always there to derail the thread, talking about things that people don't care about or that shouldn't be cared about.

This time it's about Avilo's supposed TvT win ratings and his claim to have played a role in innovating a match-up.


someone stated Avilo was an innovator like Boxer and i disagreed. I never made the claim. I merely disagreed and explained why. and then it just went on and on and on... Then Avilo jumped in and said .. ya man 5 years ago i had a 99% winnning rate in TvT.

i merely added my take on the derailed topic which actually contains real evidence and not hearsay unlike the individuals who hold opposing views.

and ya, i'm really enjoying LotV and i like how DK has changed LotV from HotS and i like the state of multiplayer from my random-race diamond league perspective which is only a small slice of the cross section of people Mr. Kim must please to make this a successful product. Greg Black is doing a great job too!


You are right. I made that post when I was in a bad mood, I apologize. But anyway, there's no point in trying to dismiss such assertions.

If you have a 99% win rate in a match-up, it's because you've chosen your opponents wisely.
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