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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 22 2016 09:43 The_Red_Viper wrote: Life's matchfixing shouldn't be a factor at all tbh, nothing to do with his achievements. People who argue this do this from an emotional standpoint imo, which is bad. one's story is part of greatness. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
Greatness is completely subjective. I can say Has is the greatest player of all time because of his genius pylon wall and you can't disprove it. The only thing that can be somewhat objectively measured is the level of success a player had. | ||
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arthisios
United States1 Post
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 22 2016 09:56 Charoisaur wrote: Yeah probably pointless to make a poll now because many people just won't vote for life because he matchfixed. If you believe voting would have given the most objective results for GOAT, then they would also give the most objective results for qualifications of GOAT. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
We aren't valuing if he is the greatest person ever, we are valuing if he is the greatest sc2 player ever. He probably wouldn't get far in the first competition because of his matchfixing, the other one though... | ||
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20-Minute-Jackal
United States336 Posts
On April 22 2016 08:57 Lazare1969 wrote: Life still has almost half a million dollars in prize money and that's not including team salary. He doesn't even have to make investments, he could just stash it all in a savings account with a decent interest rate and retire at the age of 19. Though he'd have to settle for a somewhat cheap life if he did that. The grapevine says Life squandered most of his legitimate earnings on gambling, which probably made him desperate enough to match fix so he could get more money to gamble away, or payoff gambling debts. | ||
Kitai
United States886 Posts
On April 22 2016 10:51 20-Minute-Jackal wrote: The grapevine says Life squandered most of his legitimate earnings on gambling, which probably made him desperate enough to match fix so he could get more money to gamble away, or payoff gambling debts. So Life is basically SC2's version of a child celebrity... seems all awesome on the outside until a year or two passes and all the dark shit behind the scenes comes to light. (though a source for that sort of allegation would be nice) | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51707 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Well, at least this was funny. | ||
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meenamjah
Canada51 Posts
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MoonyD
Australia191 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Balosaar
United States35 Posts
umm... He won those bests of 5's... (confused face) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_KeSPA_Cup_Season_1 | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On April 22 2016 14:32 Balosaar wrote: So Life matchfixed in 2 matches... best of 5 series... vs Terminator and Dream??? umm... He won those bests of 5's... (confused face) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_KeSPA_Cup_Season_1 He was only paid to fix one map in each series, not the series | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On April 22 2016 09:25 Charoisaur wrote: Life has won more in a harder era. The only argument for Mvp is that he has won more GSLs but I consider a blizzcon to be at least equal if not more impressive than a GSL. Also stating that life isn't anywhere near GOAT is just wrong and biased. Even if you think mvp is #1, life would still be extremely close no discussion on that. Jürgen > Life. Life is probably the better player of those two, but Mvp is the greater  | ||
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TomInKorea
Korea (South)39 Posts
On April 22 2016 14:32 Balosaar wrote: So Life matchfixed in 2 matches... best of 5 series... vs Terminator and Dream??? umm... He won those bests of 5's... (confused face) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_KeSPA_Cup_Season_1 If e-sports gambling is anything like sports gambling, there will be wagers on the winner of a series and also on the number of games that will be won or loss. And the sequence of those games. And any random permutation of events that is remotely possible in that game. | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
Starts at 13 min in the video. | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
On April 22 2016 12:27 Caihead wrote: I hope we don't get into a pattern where every other S+ tier zerg is a matchfixer... That's a real curse. We really have to watch out for best zerg players in starcraft 3 | ||
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