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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9060 Posts
April 21 2016 23:44 GMT
#301
OtherWorld, we can only hope ^_-

Red_Viper...not cool man.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 21 2016 23:46 GMT
#302
On April 22 2016 08:44 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
OtherWorld, we can only hope ^_-

Red_Viper...not cool man.

Well that's actually my opinion so it's ok i think
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 21 2016 23:48 GMT
#303
On April 22 2016 08:44 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
OtherWorld, we can only hope ^_-

Red_Viper...not cool man.

Sigbetting knows no mercy.
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Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
April 21 2016 23:57 GMT
#304
Life still has almost half a million dollars in prize money and that's not including team salary. He doesn't even have to make investments, he could just stash it all in a savings account with a decent interest rate and retire at the age of 19. Though he'd have to settle for a somewhat cheap life if he did that.
6 trillion
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 22 2016 00:09 GMT
#305
On April 22 2016 08:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?


I think Life will still be acknowledged as the GOAT despite being reviled as a matchfixer. Which makes this even sadder


life was never anywhere near goat even without being a matchfixer
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9060 Posts
April 22 2016 00:14 GMT
#306
My sig makes me sick and sad at the same time. I like both Zest and Life. But they got in the way of TaeJa. So I'm conflicted.

While this issue is a sad thing to read, Life made his bed. He now lies in it. On the stage or online, he played damn good games and was amazing to watch. His skill carried him far. But it seems his greed, naiveté or whatever got the best of him. Sad, but SC2 and eSports in general will hopefully be better for this.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 22 2016 00:21 GMT
#307
On April 22 2016 09:09 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 08:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?


I think Life will still be acknowledged as the GOAT despite being reviled as a matchfixer. Which makes this even sadder


life was never anywhere near goat even without being a matchfixer

Repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true That's not how this stuff works lichter^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 22 2016 00:25 GMT
#308
people don't understand the difference between "greatest" and "best". life was the best. he was never close to being the greatest.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
April 22 2016 00:25 GMT
#309
Life has won more in a harder era. The only argument for Mvp is that he has won more GSLs but I consider a blizzcon to be at least equal if not more impressive than a GSL.
Also stating that life isn't anywhere near GOAT is just wrong and biased. Even if you think mvp is #1, life would still be extremely close no discussion on that.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
April 22 2016 00:26 GMT
#310
On April 22 2016 09:25 lichter wrote:
people don't understand the difference between "greatest" and "best". life was the best. he was never close to being the greatest.

"Greatest" is subjective
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 22 2016 00:28 GMT
#311
On April 22 2016 09:25 lichter wrote:
people don't understand the difference between "greatest" and "best". life was the best. he was never close to being the greatest.

On what basis? Not even close?
I really would like to see your definition then
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 00:33 GMT
#312
Well, at least we now have confirmed why Life was so mediocre in Proleague.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 22 2016 00:33 GMT
#313
On April 22 2016 09:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 09:09 lichter wrote:
On April 22 2016 08:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?


I think Life will still be acknowledged as the GOAT despite being reviled as a matchfixer. Which makes this even sadder


life was never anywhere near goat even without being a matchfixer

Repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true That's not how this stuff works lichter^^


Strange that's what I'd have said to people who kept saying Life was #1.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
April 22 2016 00:37 GMT
#314
There should be a poll on sc2 goat. Would give the most objective results.
When single people make lists it will always be biased.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 22 2016 00:40 GMT
#315
On April 22 2016 09:37 Charoisaur wrote:
There should be a poll on sc2 goat. Would give the most objective results.
When single people make lists it will always be biased.


If that's what you believe, then you'd need to take a poll first to see if a player should be able to be voted on if they were caught matchfixing as being a matchfixer may or may not be a quality people consider in GOAT.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 22 2016 00:41 GMT
#316
well i am too lazy to argue this anymore since there's no point. life is now persona non grata

but yeah, not even close
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 00:56:00
April 22 2016 00:43 GMT
#317
On April 22 2016 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 09:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 22 2016 09:09 lichter wrote:
On April 22 2016 08:37 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?


I think Life will still be acknowledged as the GOAT despite being reviled as a matchfixer. Which makes this even sadder


life was never anywhere near goat even without being a matchfixer

Repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true That's not how this stuff works lichter^^


Strange that's what I'd have said to people who kept saying Life was #1.

Hehe. I never did a full research myself (with my priorities in mind) so it's largely gut feeling at this point, but i am 100% certain Mvp wouldn't be number one on my list because i think his era was simply not competitive enough to allow him to be the goat.
Just like NaDa couldn't be GOAT in bw for the same reasoning if you ask me.

edit: That was actually a bad example, Nada's era was probably way more close in competitiveness to Flash's than Mvp's to after Kespa switch.


On April 22 2016 09:41 lichter wrote:
well i am too lazy to argue this anymore since there's no point. life is now persona non grata

but yeah, not even close

Life's matchfixing shouldn't be a factor at all tbh, nothing to do with his achievements.
People who argue this do this from an emotional standpoint imo, which is bad.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
April 22 2016 00:56 GMT
#318
On April 22 2016 09:40 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 09:37 Charoisaur wrote:
There should be a poll on sc2 goat. Would give the most objective results.
When single people make lists it will always be biased.


If that's what you believe, then you'd need to take a poll first to see if a player should be able to be voted on if they were caught matchfixing as being a matchfixer may or may not be a quality people consider in GOAT.

Yeah probably pointless to make a poll now because many people just won't vote for life because he matchfixed.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
April 22 2016 01:01 GMT
#319
On April 22 2016 09:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 09:40 stuchiu wrote:
On April 22 2016 09:37 Charoisaur wrote:
There should be a poll on sc2 goat. Would give the most objective results.
When single people make lists it will always be biased.


If that's what you believe, then you'd need to take a poll first to see if a player should be able to be voted on if they were caught matchfixing as being a matchfixer may or may not be a quality people consider in GOAT.

Yeah probably pointless to make a poll now because many people just won't vote for life because he matchfixed.

Always pointless to make a poll if anyone can vote =)
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16079 Posts
April 22 2016 01:10 GMT
#320
On April 22 2016 10:01 DonDomingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 09:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 22 2016 09:40 stuchiu wrote:
On April 22 2016 09:37 Charoisaur wrote:
There should be a poll on sc2 goat. Would give the most objective results.
When single people make lists it will always be biased.


If that's what you believe, then you'd need to take a poll first to see if a player should be able to be voted on if they were caught matchfixing as being a matchfixer may or may not be a quality people consider in GOAT.

Yeah probably pointless to make a poll now because many people just won't vote for life because he matchfixed.

Always pointless to make a poll if anyone can vote =)

Would still be interesting to know what the majority thinks.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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