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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 15

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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
April 21 2016 19:51 GMT
#281
On April 22 2016 04:48 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
Why the fuck would Life or Bbyong match fix AFTER Prime was already caught. If they really thought that they could get away with it, then I would predict that match fixing is much more prevalent than just Prime and these two. Perhaps there are those who fixed and have not been caught yet.


Life match fixed before Prime was caught.

Sorry, misread that. Why the fuck would Bbyong match fix then. What an idiot.
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Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
April 21 2016 19:55 GMT
#282
Life had everything, and also the historical issue with Savior, and even then, even getting the nearest example of a player like himself being succesful and ruining his own carreer with match fixing... he decided to go the same way... so sad.
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DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
April 21 2016 19:56 GMT
#283
Don't worry guys. Just because Life was found guilty doesn't mean he is!

+ Show Spoiler +
Just very very likely ;(
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:58:24
April 21 2016 19:57 GMT
#284
On April 22 2016 04:51 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:48 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
Why the fuck would Life or Bbyong match fix AFTER Prime was already caught. If they really thought that they could get away with it, then I would predict that match fixing is much more prevalent than just Prime and these two. Perhaps there are those who fixed and have not been caught yet.


Life match fixed before Prime was caught.

Sorry, misread that. Why the fuck would Bbyong match fix then. What an idiot.


25k to throw one map in GSL Code A, pretty tempting when the prize for WINNING GSL is only 32k
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
April 21 2016 20:01 GMT
#285
On April 22 2016 04:57 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:51 Brutaxilos wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:48 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
Why the fuck would Life or Bbyong match fix AFTER Prime was already caught. If they really thought that they could get away with it, then I would predict that match fixing is much more prevalent than just Prime and these two. Perhaps there are those who fixed and have not been caught yet.


Life match fixed before Prime was caught.

Sorry, misread that. Why the fuck would Bbyong match fix then. What an idiot.


25k to throw one map in GSL Code A, pretty tempting when the prize for WINNING GSL is only 32k

25K but a (supposedly) near certainty of getting caught. The only variable here is just how likely it is to get caught. Which makes me think that there are likely many more progamers active who have match fixed and gotten away with it.
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Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 20:08:57
April 21 2016 20:08 GMT
#286
So this at least finally reveals which one of YoDa's matches in (Wiki)2015 Global StarCraft II League Season 2/Code S on May 13 was fixed:
The original report in the YoDa/BBoongBBoong/Gerrard case left it open, it could have been either versus
Symbol or Bbyong.
This report mentions that they charge Enough for betting on a match in that tournament on the same day when he knew that it was fixed. They call it "P" vs "N". Now we know that "N" is Bbyong, so "P" has to be YoDa. And apparently Bbyong, who later fixed, won by beating a player who lost on purpose.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 20:27:08
April 21 2016 20:23 GMT
#287
It only took two games for the legacy of the second greatest player to ever touch SC2 to be destroyed...

Talk about Savior 2.0.

I don't think there's anyone who can fill his shoes...not even Dark.

>> Honestly I think this might mark the final nail in the coffin for SC2 in Korea...especially considering how bad things went following the...other incident...

Or at least the death of CJ .
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
April 21 2016 21:15 GMT
#288
I'm sad but also just frustrated at Life, like god damn, maybe was he too young to remember Savior being caught up in match fixing
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5624 Posts
April 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#289
KT Zergs caught in both Star1 and 2... >.<
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vicml21
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada165 Posts
April 21 2016 22:25 GMT
#290
On April 22 2016 07:10 rotta wrote:
KT Zergs caught in both Star1 and 2... >.<


sAviOr was CJ at the time.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 22:33:46
April 21 2016 22:31 GMT
#291
On April 22 2016 05:01 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 04:57 showstealer1829 wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:51 Brutaxilos wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:48 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On April 22 2016 04:46 Brutaxilos wrote:
Why the fuck would Life or Bbyong match fix AFTER Prime was already caught. If they really thought that they could get away with it, then I would predict that match fixing is much more prevalent than just Prime and these two. Perhaps there are those who fixed and have not been caught yet.


Life match fixed before Prime was caught.

Sorry, misread that. Why the fuck would Bbyong match fix then. What an idiot.


25k to throw one map in GSL Code A, pretty tempting when the prize for WINNING GSL is only 32k

25K but a (supposedly) near certainty of getting caught. The only variable here is just how likely it is to get caught. Which makes me think that there are likely many more progamers active who have match fixed and gotten away with it.

Near certainty of getting caught? We don't know if the fact that four players so far have been caught is a 100% caught/cheated ratio or if it's a 10% ratio... I honestly doubt organized crime around matchfixing would have such huge pays for fixing one game if it was only restricted to half a dozen players
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
April 21 2016 22:38 GMT
#292
On April 22 2016 07:25 vicml21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:10 rotta wrote:
KT Zergs caught in both Star1 and 2... >.<


sAviOr was CJ at the time.

Luxury wasn't
Jaken
Profile Joined March 2016
Germany1 Post
April 21 2016 22:40 GMT
#293
;(
i finally know, that my most favorite player since end of wings of liberty, is gone

for ever...... im so sad for life, im about to cry......
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
April 21 2016 22:44 GMT
#294
tragic news, glad at least that they caught so many involved with the process
plasma4
Profile Joined March 2016
123 Posts
April 21 2016 23:11 GMT
#295
This is also bad on CJ's track record two players who have matchfixed on their team. Savior was suppose to be their warning not to matchfix.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States881 Posts
April 21 2016 23:17 GMT
#296
Man, that's a tough pill to swallow. Life was the best SC2 player of all time (in my opinion) and now he's just... gone. Somehow, I'm not even angry at him, just sad. I hope he learns from this to make better moral choices in whatever he does in the future. As for the guys that coerced him into match fixing, fuck them. I hope the prosecutors throw the book at them. (No, I'm not absolving Life of guilt, I just sympathize with him more than his manipulators).
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9060 Posts
April 21 2016 23:32 GMT
#297
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2016 23:37 GMT
#298
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?


I think Life will still be acknowledged as the GOAT despite being reviled as a matchfixer. Which makes this even sadder
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 23:44:10
April 21 2016 23:42 GMT
#299
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?

Add " | Life still #2 GOAT" to your signature

edit: Nah make it simply " | Life still the GOAT"
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 21 2016 23:43 GMT
#300
On April 22 2016 08:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So....does TaeJa move to #2 on GOAT list?

Next up, Mvp erased from the GOAT list because a man with a broken neck clearly can't be a GOAT. TaeJa #1 GOAT, TL writers get all wet, Liquid Dream realized.
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