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Prosecutor's Report: Life & Bbyong match-fixing - Page 13

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:00:02
April 21 2016 15:58 GMT
#241
On April 22 2016 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:41 fezvez wrote:
Once again, I am just so glad that Life wasn't awarded the #1 GOAT by Stuchiu, but would have to win a tiny bit more to steal the spot.

This will obviously never happen

Stuchius list was made before life made the blizzcon finals.
He's probably #1 GOAT now. Not for stuchio of course but I think most people would rate life's achievements higher than mvp's


Don't think there's a point in hiding it. I updated the GOAT list after Blizzcon ended and Life wasn't #1.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 21 2016 15:59 GMT
#242
On April 22 2016 00:56 disciple wrote:
I hope someone edits Life into a court room scene of Saul Goodman defending kids for doing dumb stuff.

this post is the best thing so far to come from the life scandal
TL+ Member
Deleted User 132135
Profile Joined December 2010
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:00:26
April 21 2016 15:59 GMT
#243
One must assume that Life very likely not only fixed matches in these two cased and that these things were going already for some time.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
April 21 2016 15:59 GMT
#244
Unfortunate end to his career. While I agree that the nature of how the Korean scene works can foster match fixing with how tough and unforgiving it is, I feel least bad for life. He didn't need to match fix at all, not only was he winning tournaments, but I would imagine he was one of the higher earning players salary wise(just a guess). What a sad waste of talent.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:05:28
April 21 2016 16:03 GMT
#245
On April 22 2016 00:45 parkufarku wrote:
If I was Life, I would leave Korea (it's a small country where everyone knows each other pretty much in Seoul), and move to Europe or something to start my life over. Well..maybe he would run into people who knows him in Europe, thanks to European fans via TL lol.

Erm, South Korea has a population of over 50 million

But even if it was just 10; I don't think everyone would know each other than either heh
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 21 2016 16:10 GMT
#246
On April 22 2016 00:58 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:41 fezvez wrote:
Once again, I am just so glad that Life wasn't awarded the #1 GOAT by Stuchiu, but would have to win a tiny bit more to steal the spot.

This will obviously never happen

Stuchius list was made before life made the blizzcon finals.
He's probably #1 GOAT now. Not for stuchio of course but I think most people would rate life's achievements higher than mvp's


Don't think there's a point in hiding it. I updated the GOAT list after Blizzcon ended and Life wasn't #1.

Let's be real, there is no way anyone will ever beat Mvp unless he plays with feet only because he has no arms or something like that
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 16:20:33
April 21 2016 16:18 GMT
#247
On April 22 2016 00:45 parkufarku wrote:
If I was Life, I would leave Korea (it's a small country where everyone knows each other pretty much in Seoul), and move to Europe or something to start my life over. Well..maybe he would run into people who knows him in Europe, thanks to European fans via TL lol.


Lol, I can't belive you think everyone in south korea know Life.

+ Show Spoiler +
They all look the same how woukd they know its him!


+ Show Spoiler +
Jk but seriously I hope you were just trolling Seoul is one of the biggest city in the world
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
April 21 2016 16:18 GMT
#248
On April 22 2016 00:45 parkufarku wrote:
If I was Life, I would leave Korea (it's a small country where everyone knows each other pretty much in Seoul), and move to Europe or something to start my life over.


Just lol, 10 million people in 1 city and everyone knows each other, writing Christmas cards must take forever....

With regards Life's games, all I can say is that whilst he was good to watch with a unique style at times, when he played for KT in Proleague he was utter garbage most of the time and a real let down. Let's talk about these games shall we because they looked rather suspect when you compare those performances to how he was doing in the individual leagues at the time.
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
April 21 2016 16:18 GMT
#249
On April 22 2016 01:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:45 parkufarku wrote:
If I was Life, I would leave Korea (it's a small country where everyone knows each other pretty much in Seoul), and move to Europe or something to start my life over. Well..maybe he would run into people who knows him in Europe, thanks to European fans via TL lol.

Erm, South Korea has a population of over 50 million

But even if it was just 10; I don't think everyone would know each other than either heh


A lot of Korean population are overseas..Korea is a small country because everything is centered around Seoul. A lot of people watch the same TV shows, go to the same amusement parks, go out in similar bars. Plus, Starcraft is more recognized there than other countries.
Chant1
Profile Joined June 2015
37 Posts
April 21 2016 16:24 GMT
#250
Ok just fine them and make a suspension for couple years, this should be enough. Banning players for Life is stupid. In mma steroid users gets one year suspension. You have to realize that you take away his ability to work and after two years game will change 360, and there will be no same Life again so...
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
April 21 2016 16:40 GMT
#251
BByong, why would you turn yoursfelf in, nooo.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 21 2016 17:05 GMT
#252
On April 22 2016 01:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 00:58 stuchiu wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:41 fezvez wrote:
Once again, I am just so glad that Life wasn't awarded the #1 GOAT by Stuchiu, but would have to win a tiny bit more to steal the spot.

This will obviously never happen

Stuchius list was made before life made the blizzcon finals.
He's probably #1 GOAT now. Not for stuchio of course but I think most people would rate life's achievements higher than mvp's


Don't think there's a point in hiding it. I updated the GOAT list after Blizzcon ended and Life wasn't #1.

Let's be real, there is no way anyone will ever beat Mvp unless he plays with feet only because he has no arms or something like that


Well maybe a person could have if he didn't matchfix and end his career.
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
April 21 2016 17:08 GMT
#253
Make gambling legal, tax the profits. Ensure that sports men and women get pension deals for their (young) retirement which they are excluded from if they cheat. Or, you know... something, because this is going to keep happening.

It's sad but you obviously ban cheats for life unless there are some seriously extenuating circumstances. Removal of prize money outside of competitions that cheats have cheated in a strange thing to ask for.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 21 2016 17:22 GMT
#254
On April 22 2016 02:05 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:10 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:58 stuchiu wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 22 2016 00:41 fezvez wrote:
Once again, I am just so glad that Life wasn't awarded the #1 GOAT by Stuchiu, but would have to win a tiny bit more to steal the spot.

This will obviously never happen

Stuchius list was made before life made the blizzcon finals.
He's probably #1 GOAT now. Not for stuchio of course but I think most people would rate life's achievements higher than mvp's


Don't think there's a point in hiding it. I updated the GOAT list after Blizzcon ended and Life wasn't #1.

Let's be real, there is no way anyone will ever beat Mvp unless he plays with feet only because he has no arms or something like that


Well maybe a person could have if he didn't matchfix and end his career.

I think you can already make a case for Life. His matchfixing imo shouldn't count against him (which you didn't say, but other will)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
April 21 2016 17:24 GMT
#255
70,000,000. Thats a lot of money. I can imagine how hard that would be to say no to that.
No matter whether you take the money or not you are going to kick yourself either way.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
April 21 2016 17:26 GMT
#256
On April 22 2016 02:08 Dapper_Cad wrote:
Make gambling legal, tax the profits. Ensure that sports men and women get pension deals for their (young) retirement which they are excluded from if they cheat. Or, you know... something, because this is going to keep happening.

It's sad but you obviously ban cheats for life unless there are some seriously extenuating circumstances. Removal of prize money outside of competitions that cheats have cheated in a strange thing to ask for.


Regardless of whether gambling/ sports betting is legal or illegal, the competitors still shouldn't be fixing/ throwing matches though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 21 2016 17:26 GMT
#257
On April 22 2016 02:24 RoomOfMush wrote:
70,000,000. Thats a lot of money. I can imagine how hard that would be to say no to that.
No matter whether you take the money or not you are going to kick yourself either way.

At one point your moral simply has to kick in, that's how life works. (pun not intended)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
April 21 2016 17:27 GMT
#258
On April 22 2016 02:26 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 02:24 RoomOfMush wrote:
70,000,000. Thats a lot of money. I can imagine how hard that would be to say no to that.
No matter whether you take the money or not you are going to kick yourself either way.

At one point your moral simply has to kick in, that's how life works. (pun not intended)


Agreed. That's how life works, but not how Life works
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 21 2016 17:27 GMT
#259
Can somebody explain how Life was paid to lose two matches, but actually won both of them? Seems like he took the money without match fixing.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_KeSPA_Cup_Season_1
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
April 21 2016 17:31 GMT
#260
For the love of money is the root of all evil.
Die Trying
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