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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 19:03:26
April 15 2016 19:03 GMT
#21
Are they going to patch anything at all soon?

They'be theres a lot community updates (2 per week) but there has been only 1 patch since release over 5 months ago.

They discuss a lot but do too few.
wjat
Profile Joined August 2015
385 Posts
April 15 2016 19:07 GMT
#22
"such as Swarm Host buffs."

pls blizzard, don't.

"For example, 20% damage buff to Battlecruisers will be a much smaller change"

pls blizzard, do.

The warp prism pick up range is still too strong in my opinion.

I don't like the amount of balance discussion we have because I feel it goes only one way. It's only tease, tease, tease, you are happy when I am on my knees, one day is fine, and the next is black, so if you want me off your back, well come on and let me know, should I toss or should I go?

However I have to admit that you commitment on making the map pool better for every race was a nice touch.

oh Blizzard I don't know if I love or if I hate you ><
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 15 2016 19:08 GMT
#23
On April 16 2016 04:03 Lexender wrote:
Are they going to patch anything at all soon?

They'be theres a lot community updates (2 per week) but there has been only 1 patch since release over 5 months ago.

They discuss a lot but do too few.

Blizzard in general is quite slow to do anything relevant tbh. I still don't understand why we cannot have a real test server with matchmaking. They could test a lot of stuff there (stuff the community actually wants as well) and see if it works.
It's quite frustrating that nothing ever happens and David Kim only ever talks about "looking into it", "cool" and whatever else he feels like that day -.-


I don't have any strong opinions on the proposed changes other than the colossus, no pls don't buff that unit.
What about the Nydus?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
April 15 2016 19:10 GMT
#24
On April 16 2016 04:03 Lexender wrote:
Are they going to patch anything at all soon?

They'be theres a lot community updates (2 per week) but there has been only 1 patch since release over 5 months ago.

They discuss a lot but do too few.


I guess the obvious answer is no. It seems balance at top tier korea is somewhat fine, so they will not change anything really. Some people still hope they will actually do design changes or entirely rework a race, but, at this point, I don't think this is likely to happen at all. These community feedbacks are mostly to keep the community believing something big will actually happen. They propose ideas, put them in balance map tests (that nobody really plays because they lack matchmaking), and then simply dismiss the ideas, sometimes not even discussing why the ideas were dropped at all.
MyrionSC
Profile Joined May 2015
Denmark140 Posts
April 15 2016 19:23 GMT
#25
Guys, we are not going to go back to the swarmhost camping days, stop freaking out about minor buffs to swarmhost. It is by far the least used unit in the game right now. Many pros even have it off hotkey ffs.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 15 2016 19:24 GMT
#26
Immortal suggestions sounds great, wouldn't mind a colossus buff either. I think the Warp Prism will still need a nerf or at least a cost increase in the future, but maybe it's not the most pressing issue.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
April 15 2016 19:26 GMT
#27
On April 16 2016 04:10 petro1987 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 04:03 Lexender wrote:
Are they going to patch anything at all soon?

They'be theres a lot community updates (2 per week) but there has been only 1 patch since release over 5 months ago.

They discuss a lot but do too few.


I guess the obvious answer is no. It seems balance at top tier korea is somewhat fine, so they will not change anything really. Some people still hope they will actually do design changes or entirely rework a race, but, at this point, I don't think this is likely to happen at all. These community feedbacks are mostly to keep the community believing something big will actually happen. They propose ideas, put them in balance map tests (that nobody really plays because they lack matchmaking), and then simply dismiss the ideas, sometimes not even discussing why the ideas were dropped at all.


I do agree with this as a whole, but I don't see what's the big idea behind it. Fact is, if SC2 keeps being the way it is, it's gonna die through the next two years. Even economically, it's not worth it to pay a dev team to just write a PR piece every week.

So my best guess is that the buisness strategy of blizzard is to let starcraft 2 die and finish its lifespan while keeping the game 50% balance for the KRs, while maintaining the community on life support with community feedback updates. Maybe it's to setup WC4? Maybe it's to promote switches towards overwatch or another blizzard game. Fact is, it's killing SC2, and because as a company I don't see how they could be oblivious to the very truth that they're killing SC2.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 15 2016 19:32 GMT
#28
If they want to buff some terran air unit to compensate for the needed liberator nerfs (AG -1 range and AA damage against armored) they could buff the BC instead of the banshee. I don't think I have ever seen one built in a LotV pro game yet..
Revolutionist fan
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20309 Posts
April 15 2016 19:33 GMT
#29
We also saw an interesting suggestion this week: The theory on this suggestion was that PvZ is only problematic for Protoss only at lower skill levels.


That's really not true at all.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 15 2016 19:38 GMT
#30
Swarm host and colossus buffs? LOL

Somebody at Blizzard please accidentally hit shift + del while changing these units.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 15 2016 19:41 GMT
#31
On April 16 2016 04:03 Lexender wrote:
Are they going to patch anything at all soon?

They'be theres a lot community updates (2 per week) but there has been only 1 patch since release over 5 months ago.

They discuss a lot but do too few.


And we all knew it would be like that. That's why the people with a brain pushed for changes in the beta. It's funny... when the game went live they all were so euphoric: "The game is great except for a few issues that ruin the fun. But blizzard is for sure going to patch nydus worms and warp prisms and make mech viable and nerf ultralisks. Just give it some time, they can't patch it all at once."
Yeah... right... lol.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 19:45:58
April 15 2016 19:45 GMT
#32
No Colossi or SH buffs....please!
SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
April 15 2016 19:56 GMT
#33
If im correct protoss have performed rather well lately on the highest level so i dont understand why they are still talking about "helping protoss". For me its seems terran needs the biggest buff.

In the PvT matchup it always seems like terran have a really hard time expanding as the "mineralbased" race which obviously makes the matchup really hard for terran.

Protoss on the other hand can rather quickly go up to 3 bases without terran being able to punishing it.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9402 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 19:59:53
April 15 2016 19:58 GMT
#34
I guess the obvious answer is no. It seems balance at top tier korea is somewhat fine, so they will not change anything really


Not sure I agree with that. I feel TvZ is pretty T favored. TvP is pretty P favored, and PvZ is probably a bit P favored.

However, since Zerg is simply the easiest race to play, Zerg performs the best at a "foreign competitive" level. Thus he needs to adress the skill cap assymetry in the game before you can get proper balance.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 15 2016 20:02 GMT
#35
On April 16 2016 04:58 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
I guess the obvious answer is no. It seems balance at top tier korea is somewhat fine, so they will not change anything really


Not sure I agree with that. I feel TvZ is pretty T favored. TvP is pretty P favored, and PvZ is probably a bit P favored.

However, since Zerg is simply the easiest race to play, Zerg performs the best at a "foreign competitive" level. Thus he needs to adress the skill cap assymetry in the game before you can get proper balance.


I don't think this matches the general opinion of zerg race as far as the foreign scene goes. The general opinion seems to be that zerg is performing well. Ask non-zerg players.
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
April 15 2016 20:06 GMT
#36
Oh jesus they are bringing back the colo. I hope that doesn't happen.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 15 2016 20:14 GMT
#37
On April 16 2016 04:33 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
We also saw an interesting suggestion this week: The theory on this suggestion was that PvZ is only problematic for Protoss only at lower skill levels.


That's really not true at all.


Well PvZ isn't problematic at the highest levels of played as Korea has shown time and time again the past month or two.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 15 2016 20:16 GMT
#38
I'm still not going to play again until a balance change goes through
MiCroLiFe
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway266 Posts
April 15 2016 20:17 GMT
#39
can you please fix the thing That makes protoss get free third while harass? terran cant move out:/
Im Terran. Yes i will balance whine somethimes. And thats how we terrans survive, Hoping for balance patches<3
rls
Profile Joined March 2016
6 Posts
April 15 2016 20:32 GMT
#40
I mostly agree with all the changes they've mentioned. Where can I vote!? :p

Very happy about the new stance on leaving Liberator ground and Banshee's untouched. Good to see Liberator AA become more of a only vs light thing.

Also looking forward to see Colossi again. Hopefully they don't make disruptors disappear tho.
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