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KeSPA to pursue legal action against PRIME match-fixers

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
April 08 2016 06:42 GMT
#1
Source: KeSPA facebook

The Korea e-Sports Association (KeSPA) announced they will pursue further legal action against those involved in the 2015 match-fixing scandal, which involved Prime members Gerrard, YoDa, and BBoongBBoong. The criminal case ended in March with a judge handing out suspended sentences and fines, which KeSPA stated are an insufficient deterrent to future match-fixing.

In order to prevent future cases of match-fixing, KeSPA said they will use "all civil measures possible," as well as continuing their player education and illicit-website monitoring programs. KeSPA had already stated last October, when the arrests were made, that they would consider suing for damages.

Translation of KeSPA statement

"Hello, this is Korea e-Sports Association.

Our stance on the court decision regarding the individuals involved in StarCraft II match-fixing is as follows.

In 2010, the e-Sports industry was given an unerasable scar by the first match-fixing scandal in e-Sports history. Afterward, the Association, all e-Sports teams, and the industry have put in considerable effort to repair the damaged image from the match-fixing scandal, and prevent the similar cases from occurring in the future. In spite of this, the credibility of esports fell again last year due to match-fixing involving a head coach, players, brokers, and industry insiders, damaging the foundation of the industry.

A few days ago, a court decided to sentence those involved in the crime to suspended sentences and fines. However, the Assocation and e-Sports teams are extremely concerned that this decision is insufficient to thoroughly prevent copycat crimes, the continued solicitation of players by a broker-network which has not been rooted out, and reoccurence of other illicit activities.

Thus, in order to prevent similar cases from occurring and to alert people to the issue, the Assocation and teams will pursue all civil measures possible against those who participated in this match-fixing scandal. Furthermore, we will continue our preventative programs such as player education and the monitoring-reporting of illegal betting sites."
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 06:45:22
April 08 2016 06:45 GMT
#2
I doubt harsher sentences will keep them from cheating. They wouldnt cheat if they thought they could get caught.
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
April 08 2016 06:59 GMT
#3
anyoen else feeling a lifelong sentence without parole? fing idiots
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
April 08 2016 07:22 GMT
#4
so basically Kespa jail ?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51502 Posts
April 08 2016 07:22 GMT
#5
you cannot bail out of the KeSPA jail.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
April 08 2016 07:25 GMT
#6
Tldr: You fuck with our eSport, we will find you. We will make your life hell.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 08 2016 07:25 GMT
#7
KESPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51502 Posts
April 08 2016 07:27 GMT
#8
On April 08 2016 16:25 lichter wrote:
KESPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
April 08 2016 07:30 GMT
#9
Apparently KeSPA jail was actually eternal financial ruin
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
April 08 2016 07:34 GMT
#10
On April 08 2016 16:30 Waxangel wrote:
Apparently KeSPA jail was actually eternal financial ruin

They will have to prove the damage they caused, won't they? ,-) And I want to see the proofs of that
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 08 2016 07:38 GMT
#11
Interestingly enough, KeSPA follows a punishment as a scare-off line which, from a moral point of view, is shit.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
April 08 2016 07:42 GMT
#12
On April 08 2016 16:38 boxerfred wrote:
Interestingly enough, KeSPA follows a punishment as a scare-off line which, from a moral point of view, is shit.

And which doesn't work.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
April 08 2016 07:44 GMT
#13
How about instead of trying to punish everything, they actually give support to their teams? I've yet to see KeSPA significantly help a team or make any effort to prevent top teams from snatching rising stars with their unlimited money (or slightly above the zero money that the small teams have). Match-fixing is awful, but if a team with no sponsor and no options (because their education and job experiences were forsaken to become pros) has their back to a wall, the probability of succumbing to quick money from match-fixing rises pretty high. Try actually supporting the teams and creating a thriving environment instead of pretending you're a good organizer by beating up on broken kids. As it is right now, Proleague is a small club of rich kids whose parents brought some poor kids to be punching bags.

And there was the Team 8 thing in the past, but I believe that was just an act of self-preservation rather than generosity. They obviously gave up on that already with less Starcraft money to be had.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51502 Posts
April 08 2016 07:48 GMT
#14
On April 08 2016 16:44 RoninKenshin wrote:
How about instead of trying to punish everything, they actually give support to their teams? I've yet to see KeSPA significantly help a team or make any effort to prevent top teams from snatching rising stars with their unlimited money (or slightly above the zero money that the small teams have). Match-fixing is awful, but if a team with no sponsor and no options (because their education and job experiences were forsaken to become pros) has their back to a wall, the probability of succumbing to quick money from match-fixing rises pretty high. Try actually supporting the teams and creating a thriving environment instead of pretending you're a good organizer by beating up on broken kids. As it is right now, Proleague is a small club of rich kids whose parents brought some poor kids to be punching bags.

And there was the Team 8 thing in the past, but I believe that was just an act of self-preservation rather than generosity. They obviously gave up on that already with less Starcraft money to be had.


Team 8 became Jin Air
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Alluton
Profile Joined February 2015
Finland113 Posts
April 08 2016 07:57 GMT
#15
On April 08 2016 16:34 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:30 Waxangel wrote:
Apparently KeSPA jail was actually eternal financial ruin

They will have to prove the damage they caused, won't they? ,-) And I want to see the proofs of that


They are already convicted of mach fixing. What other evidence do you really need?
RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
April 08 2016 07:58 GMT
#16
On April 08 2016 16:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:44 RoninKenshin wrote:
How about instead of trying to punish everything, they actually give support to their teams? I've yet to see KeSPA significantly help a team or make any effort to prevent top teams from snatching rising stars with their unlimited money (or slightly above the zero money that the small teams have). Match-fixing is awful, but if a team with no sponsor and no options (because their education and job experiences were forsaken to become pros) has their back to a wall, the probability of succumbing to quick money from match-fixing rises pretty high. Try actually supporting the teams and creating a thriving environment instead of pretending you're a good organizer by beating up on broken kids. As it is right now, Proleague is a small club of rich kids whose parents brought some poor kids to be punching bags.

And there was the Team 8 thing in the past, but I believe that was just an act of self-preservation rather than generosity. They obviously gave up on that already with less Starcraft money to be had.


Team 8 became Jin Air


Yes, KeSPA personally sponsored Team 8 until it was sold/handed off to Jin Air. I'm saying the action of personally sponsoring a team of players including the high salary of Jaedong, who was sold to EG while on Team 8, might appear to be generous, but I believe it was done purely out of self-interest rather than generosity.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51502 Posts
April 08 2016 08:01 GMT
#17
On April 08 2016 16:57 Alluton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2016 16:30 Waxangel wrote:
Apparently KeSPA jail was actually eternal financial ruin

They will have to prove the damage they caused, won't they? ,-) And I want to see the proofs of that


They are already convicted of mach fixing. What other evidence do you really need?

can't use evidence brought up from their prior trial
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RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 08:05:34
April 08 2016 08:04 GMT
#18
On April 08 2016 16:58 RoninKenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 08 2016 16:44 RoninKenshin wrote:
How about instead of trying to punish everything, they actually give support to their teams? I've yet to see KeSPA significantly help a team or make any effort to prevent top teams from snatching rising stars with their unlimited money (or slightly above the zero money that the small teams have). Match-fixing is awful, but if a team with no sponsor and no options (because their education and job experiences were forsaken to become pros) has their back to a wall, the probability of succumbing to quick money from match-fixing rises pretty high. Try actually supporting the teams and creating a thriving environment instead of pretending you're a good organizer by beating up on broken kids. As it is right now, Proleague is a small club of rich kids whose parents brought some poor kids to be punching bags.

And there was the Team 8 thing in the past, but I believe that was just an act of self-preservation rather than generosity. They obviously gave up on that already with less Starcraft money to be had.


Team 8 became Jin Air


Yes, KeSPA personally sponsored Team 8 until it was sold/handed off to Jin Air. I'm saying the action of personally sponsoring a team of players including the high salary of Jaedong, who was sold to EG while on Team 8, might appear to be generous, but I believe it was done purely out of self-interest rather than generosity.

Its a business. Everything they do is done out of self interest. And that is not bad.
It is not kespas fault that some teams dont have enough money to keep themselves afloat. This is just the way the SC2 scene has evolved. Its sad, but kespa couldnt do too much about it. (well, maybe a little bit; but still)

I still dont agree with punishing people more then necessary. At least not the players. They are just kids that did something stupid. I did plenty of stupid things when I was a kid and I bet most of you did too.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 08:06:26
April 08 2016 08:05 GMT
#19
On April 08 2016 16:57 Alluton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:34 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2016 16:30 Waxangel wrote:
Apparently KeSPA jail was actually eternal financial ruin

They will have to prove the damage they caused, won't they? ,-) And I want to see the proofs of that


They are already convicted of mach fixing. What other evidence do you really need?

So, in Western countries it works this way - if you want to get some financial satisfaction you have to prove the damage the person caused. e.g. someone says you are a child molester, they are sentenced for lying(I don't know proper legal term in English) and then you can sue them for the money you lost based on this accusation(e.g. you lost your job of kindergarten teacher based on that accusation).

In this case KeSPA needs to prove their behavior made a direct impact on their income. And that will be hard

Though it may work differently in Korea.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
April 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#20
On April 08 2016 16:42 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 16:38 boxerfred wrote:
Interestingly enough, KeSPA follows a punishment as a scare-off line which, from a moral point of view, is shit.

And which doesn't work.


reminds me of US attitude towards drug trafficking.
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