• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:25
CEST 06:25
KST 13:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes170BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1469 users

Community Feedback Update - March 31 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
192 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
wjat
Profile Joined August 2015
385 Posts
March 31 2016 19:59 GMT
#41
Imagine if the whole map pool was a joke and tomorow we got an update! how crazy that would be
BaronVonOwn
Profile Joined April 2011
299 Posts
March 31 2016 20:16 GMT
#42
I understand why people want a few standard maps to play on. That makes perfect sense. What I don't understand is why people expect a whole new set of standard maps every month. The differences are only cosmetic otherwise they wouldn't be "standard." Personally I find it annoying to learn new maps every month when the gameplay is basically the same.
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
March 31 2016 20:16 GMT
#43
Korhal is so "creative" that it makes the other new maps look worse than they actually are.
The other race is OP
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 31 2016 20:21 GMT
#44
I am so glad they finally adressed the reticle. That is incredibly important. This is no feedback, this is a farce.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 31 2016 20:24 GMT
#45
Maybe add the new race that has been announced to the OP?

https://kr.blizzard.com/promo/ko/byungsinnyun/sc2
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16789 Posts
March 31 2016 21:11 GMT
#46
i guess that is the April 1 joke.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
March 31 2016 21:36 GMT
#47

Map Diversity

We noticed the posts regarding having to only use standard maps due to everyone only liking standard maps. We had two points of discussion after reading through these conclusions. First, out of top maps, the ones voted as the 1st place map, the 3rd place map, and the 4th place map don’t seem like standard maps to us, so the conclusions some people have drawn to say that everyone only likes standard maps seems to be inaccurate. Second, we don’t understand how having 4+ similar maps in the ladder or tournaments can be a good thing. Due to the veto system in both official and automated tournaments, we’ve seen that if we go with only a few maps that are different, in some cases they might be vetoed out in every game except for the BO7 finals matches.


This paragraph is so contradictory and makes absolutely no sense...

A lengthy explanation of questionable "evidence" where they explain why people are "wrong" that people don't prefer to play on standard maps... (with claims about 1st-4th place maps that were "voted" on but provides no data about those maps or votes)

Then he says in official and automated tournaments, the maps may be vetoed out every game???

If people like the maps so much, why the hell would they be vetoing all of them out every game???

We’ve been at that spot in the past before and have clearly seen how stale the game can become if every tournament game plays identically with the same strategy and same timings available on every map. We’re not saying every single tournament out there should have a diverse map pool, and having a couple tournaments here and there that use more standard maps could be a fun difference.


If the games playing out the same strat same timings every game, doesn't that suggest a lack of depth in design/balance issues??

But instead of addressing the issues... they prefer to throw in maps with silly mechanics that are inherently imbalanced towards a certain race... 'Let's keep it new with crazy mechanics, rather than actually adding enough depth to keep it new'...

I don't know how they don't understand, the reason "standard" maps exist in basically all competitive games, is because you need a standard to base the games mechanics around in order to achieve balance!

I guess it benefits Blizzard if they don't have to actually spend real development time on the game, and can simply keep a couple of map designers playing around in SC2 editor playing with maps rather than addressing the real issues with the game...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
March 31 2016 21:38 GMT
#48
The solution we’re currently thinking of instead is to allow customization on the option that has preset colors. Currently, the defaults are: Green for a player, Yellow for the player’s allies, and Red for all enemies. By customizing these 3 categories of colors, players would have a clean and simple solution compared to the more complex options.

So the main discussion we should be having on this front is: is the above proposal the best overall solution we can have in this area? If so, we can start working on this task. If not, let’s get discussions going on the best solution, so that we can work towards implementing it in the future.

The perfect solution I've been advocating for for ages. Thank God.

And thank God they're realizing KCK sucks.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
March 31 2016 21:38 GMT
#49
On April 01 2016 04:59 wjat wrote:
Imagine if the whole map pool was a joke and tomorow we got an update! how crazy that would be

the dream
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-31 21:45:20
March 31 2016 21:43 GMT
#50
Yes customizable colors! Selecting the standard preset colours is a great way of solving it, that way everyone has there own preference without the other player being involved.

Also that reticle fix might be the fastest one ever :D

ALSO April 1st balance changes coming up XD
Neosteel Enthusiast
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20309 Posts
March 31 2016 21:46 GMT
#51
What happened to the Z earlygame changes?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
March 31 2016 21:47 GMT
#52
On April 01 2016 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
And thank God they're realizing KCK sucks.

No pls, I need to experiment more with CC first builds on the map.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-31 21:53:56
March 31 2016 21:53 GMT
#53
On April 01 2016 06:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2016 04:59 wjat wrote:
Imagine if the whole map pool was a joke and tomorow we got an update! how crazy that would be

the dream


The new map pool turns out to be Scrap Station, Desert Oasis, Steppes of War, Debris Field, a 1v1 version of Kimeran Refuge, a melee-ported version of a campaign map, and the best map of the community map submissions: [image loading].
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
March 31 2016 21:53 GMT
#54
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20079942/call-to-action-march-31-balance-testing-3-31-2016

New balance test map

(fyi, thor auto air attack comes from its 220mm Strike Cannons)
T P Z sagi
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-31 21:59:35
March 31 2016 21:55 GMT
#55
On April 01 2016 06:53 purakushi wrote:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20079942/call-to-action-march-31-balance-testing-3-31-2016

New balance test map

(fyi, thor auto air attack comes from its 220mm Strike Cannons)

Ah hell no with that banshee upgrade change. That will be way too hard to deal with for zerg unless you always go mutas.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
March 31 2016 22:01 GMT
#56
What about Has match-fixing? I mean like he didn't get into the ro8 in wcs. Then he was bumped there with a disqualification. This puts him up 150 points.

The disqualification came from pinning it on the mongolian breaking a rule that none of the players knew existed.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/506573-the-real-reason-sioras-was-dqd how come this wasn't addressed?
Smile
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
March 31 2016 22:02 GMT
#57
don't like those changes suggestions at all... Dunno about the thor, but the idea of compensating a lib nerf with a banshee buff is really bad (exactly like it made no sense to buff mine to compensate a tank nerf) and will wreck Z while making TvP horribly broken in favor of P. I hope none of this gets through.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 31 2016 22:10 GMT
#58
On April 01 2016 06:53 purakushi wrote:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20079942/call-to-action-march-31-balance-testing-3-31-2016

New balance test map

(fyi, thor auto air attack comes from its 220mm Strike Cannons)

OMG that was fast :OOOOOOOOO
feanaro
Profile Joined March 2014
United States123 Posts
March 31 2016 22:12 GMT
#59
Get rid of Korhal, the sooner the better. Any of the hots proleague maps would be better.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-31 22:16:17
March 31 2016 22:15 GMT
#60
I rest my case that the proposed banshee change will lead to more stupid shit than good things.

Also, why the fuck is the balance test map a map that's not on ladder? xD
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft583
RuFF_SC2 160
Nathanias 122
Nina 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Movie 648
Icarus 9
League of Legends
JimRising 635
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K309
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox624
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor112
Other Games
summit1g9364
XaKoH 153
NeuroSwarm142
ViBE85
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick404
BasetradeTV6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH228
• practicex 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 49
• Diggity6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra918
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3h 35m
RSL Revival
5h 35m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
6h 35m
Online Event
11h 35m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.