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Has replaces Sioras in WCS Shanghai Ro8

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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 25 2016 02:29 GMT
#1
Source: http://s.163.com/16/0325/10/BJ0D56FF00314Q8N.html

The administrators of Gold Series International 2016 have decided to replace Sioras with Has in the Ro8.

Sioras used Harstem's computer in order to view replays, which is against the rules.

Has placed 3rd in their group and advances in his stead.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
March 25 2016 02:33 GMT
#2
Were you tempted to write Has has replaced Sioras in WCS Shanghai?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 02:36:23
March 25 2016 02:35 GMT
#3
Aww. Wanted to see more of Sioras. Hopefully he doesn't just give up, and will decide to continue to play.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 25 2016 02:38 GMT
#4
Pretty sure Has somehow channeled dark magics to manipulate Sioras into watching the replays. Either way it should be Toodming vs Harstem and Has vs Drogo but people are dumb so they probably won't bother making the switch
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 13:15:20
March 25 2016 02:48 GMT
#5
As I was saying, Has mindcontrolled Sioras into watching the replay, now he got rid of Sioras and knows Hastem's build. He's truly the one true evil
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
March 25 2016 03:04 GMT
#6
On March 25 2016 11:38 Yorkie wrote:
Pretty sure Has somehow channeled dark magics to manipulate Sioras into watching the replays. Either way it should be Toodming vs Harstem and Has vs Drogo but people are dumb so they probably won't bother making the switch

In the grand scheme of things it's still Has pvp and toodming pvz vs a better player so nothing really changes.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 25 2016 03:05 GMT
#7
This is truly has' ultimate cheese, losing in groups then making playoffs anyway. Has is a force of nature imbued by the spirit of sniper to destroy everyone's hopes and dreams.
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10045 Posts
March 25 2016 03:10 GMT
#8
hahaha what a god xD but really how could Sioras do that, i dont understand :S
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 25 2016 03:13 GMT
#9
Sioras thought he could beat Has, but Has always wins in the end.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51401 Posts
March 25 2016 03:15 GMT
#10
the grime is real
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 25 2016 03:17 GMT
#11
On March 25 2016 12:04 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 11:38 Yorkie wrote:
Pretty sure Has somehow channeled dark magics to manipulate Sioras into watching the replays. Either way it should be Toodming vs Harstem and Has vs Drogo but people are dumb so they probably won't bother making the switch

In the grand scheme of things it's still Has pvp and toodming pvz vs a better player so nothing really changes.

honestly think Tooodming can beat either of them
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TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
March 25 2016 03:32 GMT
#12
Good decision. Sets a good precedent in case something like this happens again.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 25 2016 03:39 GMT
#13
Unfortunate for Sioras, being a new player who seems to have a decent attitude/friendly guy etc. Ultimately the right call though. Hope he learns from this, continues to play and we see more off him in the future.
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I wasbanned fromthis
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
113 Posts
March 25 2016 03:39 GMT
#14
The yer of harstem
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
March 25 2016 03:45 GMT
#15
Something is fishy here
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 25 2016 04:18 GMT
#16
On March 25 2016 12:13 stuchiu wrote:
Sioras thought he could beat Has, but Has always wins in the end.


So wise
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 25 2016 04:31 GMT
#17
booooooooo. He just had a win at all cost mentality
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 04:36:51
March 25 2016 04:36 GMT
#18
Harstem.. you are devil...
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3286 Posts
March 25 2016 04:47 GMT
#19
...Has is so advanced in his mind strategies that we humans simply cannot get them...
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rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 06:25:21
March 25 2016 06:23 GMT
#20
Where are the rules?

On liquipieda it is written as Sioras was disqualified for accessing Harstem's computer/replays without permission thus Has advanced to Ro8.

Couldn't Harstem just have said he gave Sioras permission to avoid this DQ?
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 06:30:39
March 25 2016 06:28 GMT
#21
translation verified.

Um... to be fair, however, I am not sure how good Sioras English is, and we don't know if blizzard actually published the rules in Mongolian language.

EDIT: will he be granted prize money and treated as though he had finished in Ro16?
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AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
March 25 2016 06:28 GMT
#22
On March 25 2016 15:23 rednusa wrote:
Where are the rules?

On liquipieda it is written as Sioras was disqualified for accessing Harstem's computer/replays without permission thus Has advanced to Ro8.

Couldn't Harstem just have said he gave Sioras permission to avoid this DQ?


But why would Harstem want to avoid the DQ?
Cinek357
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland119 Posts
March 25 2016 06:30 GMT
#23
On March 25 2016 15:23 rednusa wrote:

Couldn't Harstem just have said he gave Sioras permission to avoid this DQ?


Why should he? Serious question. In your opinion, why should he do that?
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
March 25 2016 06:35 GMT
#24
To avoid having to play Has in a PvP.
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
March 25 2016 06:46 GMT
#25
On March 25 2016 15:35 rednusa wrote:
To avoid having to play Has in a PvP.


But at the same time avoiding PvZ(which I think harstem is happy about) of which his opponent knows how he plays.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 25 2016 07:12 GMT
#26
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
March 25 2016 07:54 GMT
#27
I am curious whether this occurred because of a communication error or whether he knew/suspected that it was not allowed, and attempted to do it anyway.

It's pretty common for tournaments to be horrible at presenting rules, and this is further complicated by the fact that e-sports (at least, stuff like Starcraft) has players from all over the world, fluent in different languages...
Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
March 25 2016 08:01 GMT
#28
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 25 2016 08:25 GMT
#29
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

The organizers did the great thing that after this WCS Welfare tournament, they organized a separate one-day tournament with 24 matches between the 6 foreign winners of this tournament and 6 invited TOP Koreans. So on Sunday, there will be 24 matches with TOP Koreans (TY, Dear, ByuN), very good Korean (DRG) and still very solid Koreans (Stork, ByuL) against the winners of this tournament. With all the production, casters, and prize pool 12k USD for the winners (500k for the winner of each match). Pretty hype!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 25 2016 08:27 GMT
#30
Oh they DQed him? I thought a warning was not enough and personally would've deducted prize money, but a DQ is tough, although still justified.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 25 2016 09:04 GMT
#31
On March 25 2016 16:54 Blargh wrote:
I am curious whether this occurred because of a communication error or whether he knew/suspected that it was not allowed, and attempted to do it anyway.

It's pretty common for tournaments to be horrible at presenting rules, and this is further complicated by the fact that e-sports (at least, stuff like Starcraft) has players from all over the world, fluent in different languages...


You really would need rules to explain to you that accessing someones personal pc behind his back so you can watch his personal, unpublished replays in order to gain an unfair edge, is at the least unethical?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 25 2016 09:11 GMT
#32
Good thing we have WCS Circuit. Time for local heroes such as Sioras to shine. I'm sure there's no korean who worked harder than him yet has no chance to earn some money outside of the harsh competition that is GSL and SSL. WCShit 2016
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
March 25 2016 09:13 GMT
#33
On March 25 2016 18:11 boxerfred wrote:
Good thing we have WCS Circuit. Time for local heroes such as Sioras to shine. I'm sure there's no korean who worked harder than him yet has no chance to earn some money outside of the harsh competition that is GSL and SSL. WCShit 2016


Eh, they'd just throw their games and get arrested anyway.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55465 Posts
March 25 2016 09:38 GMT
#34
I'm a bit flabbergasted that they first only give him a warning, then after Harstem spent some time practicing PvZ, they just today announce Sioras actually gets DQ'd instead.
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
March 25 2016 10:09 GMT
#35
I lol'd
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coldscars
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany141 Posts
March 25 2016 10:22 GMT
#36
i wonder what was going through sioras head
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 25 2016 11:00 GMT
#37
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

Liquipedia never lied to you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gold_Series_International_2016/All_Star_Challenge was created two weeks ago
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oGsChess
Profile Joined September 2015
23 Posts
March 25 2016 12:32 GMT
#38
Goddamn Mongorian!

Anyways, the best example of how Has gets successful - by doing something that‘s not really cheating, but so close to cheating it‘s almost disgusting he gets through with it.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5584 Posts
March 25 2016 12:48 GMT
#39
...and justice for all. *sigh*
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 25 2016 13:28 GMT
#40
On March 25 2016 21:32 oGsChess wrote:
Goddamn Mongorian!

Anyways, the best example of how Has gets successful - by doing something that‘s not really cheating, but so close to cheating it‘s almost disgusting he gets through with it.

Has did not come close to cheating, Sioras did.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 25 2016 15:27 GMT
#41
God, that sucks. I wanted to see how this guy would do
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 25 2016 16:39 GMT
#42
WCS simply dq'ed Sioras to save face from when he won the thing
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Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
March 25 2016 17:48 GMT
#43
On March 25 2016 20:00 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

Liquipedia never lied to you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gold_Series_International_2016/All_Star_Challenge was created two weeks ago


I was poking fun at Diabolique's saltiness towards WCS

On March 25 2016 17:25 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

The organizers did the great thing that after this WCS Welfare tournament, they organized a separate one-day tournament with 24 matches between the 6 foreign winners of this tournament and 6 invited TOP Koreans. So on Sunday, there will be 24 matches with TOP Koreans (TY, Dear, ByuN), very good Korean (DRG) and still very solid Koreans (Stork, ByuL) against the winners of this tournament. With all the production, casters, and prize pool 12k USD for the winners (500k for the winner of each match). Pretty hype!


I hope the "International All-Star Invites" are Hitman and Has.
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55465 Posts
March 25 2016 17:51 GMT
#44
On March 26 2016 02:48 Ja.Y. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 20:00 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

Liquipedia never lied to you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gold_Series_International_2016/All_Star_Challenge was created two weeks ago


I was poking fun at Diabolique's saltiness towards WCS

Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:25 Diabolique wrote:
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

The organizers did the great thing that after this WCS Welfare tournament, they organized a separate one-day tournament with 24 matches between the 6 foreign winners of this tournament and 6 invited TOP Koreans. So on Sunday, there will be 24 matches with TOP Koreans (TY, Dear, ByuN), very good Korean (DRG) and still very solid Koreans (Stork, ByuL) against the winners of this tournament. With all the production, casters, and prize pool 12k USD for the winners (500k for the winner of each match). Pretty hype!


I hope the "International All-Star Invites" are Hitman and Has.

It's players who were in the main tournament.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 25 2016 18:01 GMT
#45
Once you think Has is done proxying he proxies some replays onto Harstems computer and Sioras falls for the trap. Well played Has.
Wat
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
March 25 2016 20:21 GMT
#46
ok guys we all have to vote for has to play in the all star challenge right
TY my boy gogo
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 25 2016 21:19 GMT
#47
Shame Has didn't proxy this thread.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 21:26:41
March 25 2016 21:24 GMT
#48
On March 25 2016 20:00 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 17:01 Ja.Y. wrote:
On March 25 2016 16:12 Diabolique wrote:
Well, Has hype! Although he probably does not have much chance ... but the idea of seeing him against the TOP Koreans on Sunday is great!

Funny that we had yesterday evening a tough discussion about how Sioras must be very stupid to do publicly what he did ... with such a high risk / low reward ratio. But probably a good decision for the organisers, although I would bet, it is not written anywhere in the rules, is is just something, you should not do.


There's TOP KOREANS at this event?? I didn't realize Liquipedia was lying to me. I was just enjoying my Starcraft matches and failed to realize that Koreans were present. Man, they sure do blend in well as foreigners. Completely irrelevant but I have like 30 pounds of salt that I need to add to something but I'm not exactly sure what to add to..

Liquipedia never lied to you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gold_Series_International_2016/All_Star_Challenge was created two weeks ago

Oooohhhhh the burn!

That's what you get for spouting bullshit without checking your facts

Note : Diabolique doesn't exhibit anything that looks remotely salty regarding WCS in this thread
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
March 27 2016 07:45 GMT
#49
Sioras deserves to have his face kicked in, that cunt shouldn't even be at the event in the first place!
you best believe that.

User was temp banned for this post.
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deepseer
Profile Joined August 2015
25 Posts
March 27 2016 14:45 GMT
#50
As predicted, Has succeeded in Making Some Nerd Really Really Really Angry.
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