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March 19th, 2016 02:33 GMT

Gold Series International 2016


Circuit City
Gaining Some Ground

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Circuit City



The days are getting longer, temperatures are rising, and we’re entering a new phase in the annual cycle of life. For much of the Northern hemisphere, spring is finally arriving. What better way to celebrate the passing of the old than to saunter over to Shanghai for the first premier tournament of 2016’s Gold Series Pro-League. At the same time, it’s also another entry on this year’s WCS Circuit, which means bucketfuls of non-Korean attendees.

It’s already been months since the release of LotV, and the sometimes volatile meta has slowed down considerably. Ravagers, liberators and adepts have proven to be staples of the various match-ups and build orders. While players are always looking for more optimization, we’re unlikely to see new surprises over the coming spring. It’s been only two weeks since Katowice’s WCS Winter Championship, and all the familiar faces have been able to refine their strategies.

The tournament will see four invited players join eight players from the regional qualifiers. Another four players will try their luck qualifying through the offline open bracket, which will include, among others, the runner-up of WCS Winter Championship, Snute. The open bracket might also see wild cards finally make a name for themselves, to burst on to the international consciousness from the sometimes overlooked Chinese scene. After the open bracket is finished, sixteen players will be seeded into four groups and the tournament proper will begin.

Not only is there a $50,000 prize pool, but the tournament will be a chance to earn valuable WCS Circuit points that count towards BlizzCon in the fall. Crucially, though, the winner of this event won't qualify for BlizzCon directly, unlike the winners of the Championship events. Rather, this is a nice interlude between the Winter and Spring Championships. The perfect chance to get a leg up on others for the upcoming DreamHack Austin event.

We looked into where the participants are standing going into Shanghai, and what they're hoping to gain from the tournament.

Gaining Some Ground



(P)PtitDrogo - The Nature of Patches
Throughout StarCraft's history, quite a few players have shifted according to balance and have seen previous strengths erode thanks to nerfs or found new success with some buff-granted tactic. A lot of this leads to fiery debate as people argue whether someone was actually good or just boosted by the patch they were in.. and, unfortunately, it seems like PtitDrogo is the most recent victim. His recent funk in play is pretty easily explain by the protoss patch that came into play after his Leipzig championship and—even though he's won before the patch—he's gonna need to prove he's worth the hype one more time here at GSI. Despite his noticeable drop in play, a couple things might point to some success here: for one, there's quite a lot of zergs here, which bodes relatively well considering a couple set wins over Bly are the only good thing about his record since Leipzig. Two, the protoss field is simply not in the same class, and as such he'll only have to worry about the sparse terrans and a couple of the top-tier zergs. In short? Yeah, recent records looks bad for PtitDrogo, but if ever there was a time for him to recuperate and come out with some new strategies it's now.

Desired Result : Top 4
MarineLord, Nerchio, Elazer and Snute are all huge players in the foreign scene. A few months ago? Well, PtitDrogo would've pretty handily been able to hang with them, but right now him even being able to remain competitive is a big question. A Semifinals performance here would place him above at least one of them and help to dispel rumors of him slumping, while a Quarterfinals would at least confirm he isn't in too bad of shape.


(T)MarineLorD - The Shadow of Doubt
Despite the fact that he's been one of the two dominating forces in LotV's European online scene, MarineLorD has picked up quite the nasty habit. He's a choker. He lost to HuK and ShoWTimE at Leipzig, MC at Kings of the Craft, Lilbow at Acer, MaNa at TING and most humiliatingly viOLet in his 'undefeatable' TvZ at WCS. That defeat—especially in such a tight manner—will be playing in his head as he looks at the zerg heavy player pool, and it'll be hard to favor him too much in TvZ going forward.. but, he still largely out-starpowers his opponents. If not for his recent record against Nerchio and noteworthy failure against viOLet he might even be considered the favorite! Instead? This serves as yet another opportunity for MarineLorD to prove himself as one of Europe's best instead of just another solid player, and a big run here would help regain confidence going forward into May's double Dreamhack.

Desired Result : Finals
MarineLorD's best shot at a finals is right here. Without a bad draw in getting Nerchio before that fateful championship match, it really shouldn't be an insurmountable challenge for him, and a dismantling of solid players in Elazer/PtitDrogo/MajOr would go a long way to establishing his offline credibility. A championship over this field would be huge and would push MarineLorD towards the 'Best European' title, but even just a second place would be noticeable improvement. Snute's involvement might prove to be a challenge for MarineLorD as well, but if he wants to retain his TvZ reputation it shouldn't be a large problem.


(Z)Snute - At Long Last
Snute's WCS run, despite Polt's championship, might've been the biggest story of the entire Katowice weekend. It wasn't as if he got an easy bracket either: viOLet and Hydra are both quite scary (MarineLorD can testify) while MajOr and MaSa both showed up pretty strong in TvZ. Luckily Snute's least known matchup, ZvP, will be able to be dodged quite well here while the ZvZ that he looked so great in should be able to shine through. Of course he'll have no Koreans to worry about and Snute has historically tended to do better against Koreans than foreigners, oddly enough, so it might be a little out of his element, but still. It's Snute's turn to be on top of the world, and it's been a long time coming for the Norweigan champion, so if he seizes the chance? Expect big things from him in Shanghai.

Desired Result : Finals
He's unchallenged in the matchups that he hasn't already shown excellence in, and while MarineLorD and Nerchio both show renown in their vZ it shouldn't prove to be a huge deal for Snute. Making at least a finals here places him over one of those two, and proves that WCS wasn't a 'fluke'. Of course a championship is ideal, but with a surprisingly stacked lineup, that might be a little too optimistic.


(Z)iAsonu - The Dark Horse
For the first time ever, iAsonu has carried his online curiosity into a fairly impressive result in the European circuit. His ZvZ in general looked solid, which bodes well considering the zerg-heavy line-up here, and he should have a fair shot at downing any of the slumping/low-tier protoss too. His biggest threat are certainly the duo of terrans although his victory against Kelazhur to qualify for WCS makes it less of a certain loss and more of a passive pessimism. It's hard to say exactly where iAsonu lands as, despite his struggles in his homeland, he did provide a pretty good result in Katowice. Will the momentum carry him? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, he's always been one of the Chinese players with the most potential in my eyes, and the weakened lineup here gives him a good as ever chance to pull something off.

Desired Result : Quarterfinals
While a win against King-of-ZvZ Nerchio would be stellar and an upset against Elazer would carry the sweet taste of revenge, it's fairly unlikely that either would come to pass. Unfortunately for iAsonu, the top-tier of players (MarineLorD, Nerchio, Elazer, Snute and even PtitDrogo to an extent) are all best known for their vZ, and it'll either take a stunning upset or a lucky bracket to get past that. A good result here would be solid wins over the lower tier of competition and a reasonable performance against one of the big Europeans in the Quarterfinals to prove that he's a cut above the rest, but a win might be too optimistic.


(Z)XiGua - The Hometown Hero
Ouch. XiGua beats down his countrymen in both GPL and the Kung Fu Cup qualifiers and gets rewarded with viOLet first round in Katowice? Well, if it's any consolation, XiGua didn't exactly look terrible and even managed to take a match over viOLet who has reasonably good ZvZ. Unfortunately the lack of matches played against anyone in the middle makes it immensely hard to place XiGua, and it'd be just as fair to label him as someone unlikely to have success outside of China as it would be to presume he'd be better than iAsonu—who enjoyed moderate success in Katowice—thanks to their regional results. Personally? I think XiGua has a pretty great shot at taking out any of the lower-tier players, but without any games played since Katowice and practically no games played at all against europeans, it's hard to say he'll go much further.

Desired Result : Quarterfinals
Much like iAsonu, XiGua wants to confirm his superiority over the rest by cleanly exiting groups and making a solid QF appearance. Either a tight set against one of the 'big five' or a win to make Semis if he's blessed with an easy opponent would be a good showing for him, and anything more would make him immediately worthy of our full attention.


(P)puCK - The Odd One Out
Unlike MajOr, puCK didn't have a super close game against a top-tier player at Katowice. Unlike MaSa or Neeb, he didn't have a Ro16. Unlike HuK, he didn't have a Ro8. It was a disappointing weekend for puCK, making him potentially the only NA player to be entirely dissatisfied with their weekend.. well, him and Kelazhur, but one of those two were bound to be disappointed anyway. Luckily, puCK made a pretty good set of wins against JonSnow/MaSa/State to get here, so he has a second shot to make something happen. The looming threat of being a one-run wonder is all the heavier now, and puCK's general consistency in all three matchups won't even be able to come to full use here. It's gonna be a hard run, but not nearly as hard as the two DreamHacks on the horizon will be if he fails here. With a good run? Well, maybe NA won't be worth mocking after all.

Oh hell, we all know they will be anyway.

Desired Result : Quarterfinals
puCK will likely be leaning either on his PvZ against one of the Chinese zergs or his superiority over his 'regional peers' to exit groups. Neither is a certainty, but both are more likely than any parts of his DreamHack Winter run, so it's far from out of the question. Going forward from there, puCK will especially want to draw PtitDrogo as he won't have to face a rematch or a very scary zerg and will instead be able to lean on the past as PtitDrogo was part of that DreamHack Winter run. Thus, a semifinals is quite the long shot, but it would overshadow his Katowice dud for sure.


(P)Has - The Embodiment of Chaos
Holy crap, Has is getting better. Beating Bunny? Considering that he lost to the Danish terran already, a victory without the advantage of surprise managed to be one of the bigger upsets in all of the Ro32 and his follow-up set against FireCake wasn't even all that bad. It's unfortunate that Has manages to have somehow way-below-average mechanical skill—even for a foreigner—because his strategies have seemed sharper than before in LotV, and GSI is a pretty good place to show them off. Yet, somehow, this field of players poses more questions than Katowice did. Will he do worse when the 'nerves' of having to practice for him aren't as persistent? Will he do worse against players in the general Asian region, or will he continue to do surprisingly well as he has against the westerners? Will he continue his offline upsets, or stick to his online form?

Desired Result : Making Some Nerd Really Really Really Angry
I doubt Has gives a damn about Quarterfinals, even though he has a solid enough chance at making one here. Instead? Well, his playstyle is really good at inciting rage, and there's quite a few chances for that. The Americans don't have enough 'skill' to be large favorites against Has, while players like MarineLorD are cocky enough to perhaps give way to the cheese and someone like PtitDrogo is in enough of a point of weakness to be humiliated further by the Prince of Evil. From there it's likely just a Bo3 against a Chinese player—be it Jieshi or a zerg—to the Quarterfinals, where he can make even more people peeved.


(P)Jieshi - The Mystery
While iAsonu is an easy pick for a 'dark horse' type of player, Jieshi is more of an /actual/ dark horse in that we know close to nothing about him aside from the fact that he likes beating up on Jim and he's been pretty good in his region. His playstyle tends to come off as a less flavorful but somehow more disgustingly basic version of Has' 'creativity', and he even managed to beat the taiwanese star in none other than the NA Regionals. He also performed quite well in the GPL, even beating current-champ XiGua the season before! Unfortunately, his results against europeans are sketchier- he's taken games off of Snute and Serral but failed to close the set, and was promptly 2-0'd by HuK to prevent any chance at making a Katowice appearance. As such, your level of hype may vary depending on optimism, but chinese players have a habit of not quite performing in WCS events anyway.

Desired Result : Drawing Attention
Just like iAsonu/XiGua, Jieshi wants to make the Quarters, and he'll likely do so in similar fashion. His disadvantage is a lack of consistency and experience. Not only will he have a small hill to climb in the actual head-to-head against his countrymen, but players such as puCK and MajOr who should be stepping stones if one was making a run could pose deadly for the lowly protoss. Still, all it would take is one cheesing-out of his so-called superiors to gain our attention, and a Quarterfinals run wouldn't be too far. On the other hand, he also shares the 'cheesy as all hell' aspect with Has, therefor his goal is less reliant on making a good run and more reliant on making a good moment. When it comes to that? His chances seem a lot better.


(T)MajOr - So Close, But So Far
If not for that pause in Game One. It was one fateful moment in one tense match that could've set MajOr 2-0 over the eventual finalist of Katowice, in an alternate reality that had the potential to see a real run from MajOr yet likely stopped at the Quarterfinals. But even then, an upset against Snute would've been huge. Regardless, it's good news that MajOr will have mostly zergs to play against as Snute is arguably as big as they come, and the protoss shouldn't provide too big of threats either. Reclaiming the throne of South America by beating Kelazhur in GSI qualifiers—as well as solid results both in region and out since Katowice—allow MajOr to take a breath without much risk. It's all reward from here, friend!.. Unless you lose to Has.

Desired Result : Semifinals
A semifinals might be an ambitious feat for the Mexican terran, but considering his performance against Snute—and actual wins over Snute and Serral since—it's hard to see a better time. Elazer isn't too far off of the Norweigan hero, while the Chinese duo shouldn't pose much of a threat for an on-form MajOr. Even PtitDrogo should be upset-able considering his current form. It all comes down to which MajOr shows up, and whether he can carry his recent momentum into a meaningful run or if he'll stagnate once more. Of course, the 'desired result' is a continuation, therefor a Semis is ideal, especially if it involves revenge on Snute.


(Z)Elazer - Walking The Edge of Shadows
Dangit! Elazer was so close. He had Hydra on the ropes—falling in an actually intense ZvZ—when the Korean clutchness got the better of him and the Polish second-placer was left to wallow in his despair at yet another time where Nerchio stole the spotlight from him. Yet, in an ironic twist of fate, it was his loss against Hydra that showed the most promise. After all it takes but a mid-tier player to squeeze out wins against Bly and iAsonu, but only a skilled player could showcase the game knowledge and general talent that the Hydra set took. It's not too surprising that he's been quiet since then, but it's worth noting that his tense set trading against Snute at TING looks a lot better considering Snute's ZvZ ability since.

Desired Result : Championship
This is Elazer's time. He gets to play his best matchup almost entirely—as long as he dodges MarineLorD—and his eyes must be on the potential match against his 'rival' Nerchio. They aren't actual rivals yet, but it has to be frustrating to see someone from your own country consistently outperform you. Well, what better time to change that? An Elazer-Nerchio final might've been more appreciated in Katowice thanks to the crowd, but the storylines and tension would be little worse here in Shanghai. If Elazer can't perform here, it's going to be because of one of three reasons: MarineLorD performing as expected in TvZ, Nerchio or Snute performing as expected in ZvZ, or a big disappointment. As such, a finals appearance would keep his nature as a rising player going and an actual victory would establish him as one of the big players going into May and the Spring Championships.


(Z)Nerchio - The Power of the Crown
Whew. Katowice was a somewhat rough road for Nerchio, but it taught him a few important things. For one? He's not a choker. His set against ShoWTimE was tense, hard-fought and nerve-wracking with a light comeback involved, but Nerchio's confidence didn't seem to waver nonetheless. For two? He's damn good. He followed that victory up with big wins over SortOf and HuK, proving his superiority over the meta and confirming his consistency. For three? He's a meta player. He knows LotV. He knows LotV really, really, really well. But when he matched up against Polt, he did what he should have done.. and Polt countered it. Twice in a row he lost to harsh counterattacks before finally being K-O'd by a brutal timing, leading to a 3-0 that didn't damage his reputation as one of the best in Europe but rather confirmed him as not quite on the level as a foreign all-time great such as Stephano or NaNiwa. Will this tournament prove that wrong? Probably not, but it's gonna be a good chance for Nerchio to continue his consistency and could provide a championship given his play holds up.

Desired Result : Championship
Elazer, MarineLorD and Snute are all no slouches in the vZ matchup. Especially MarineLorD, who has routinely tangoed with Nerchio online. But the Polish zerg just seems on another level right now. A loss could be excused if it comes in the Finals, or maybe in the Semis, to one of those three in a very tight set.. but let's be honest, if he doesn't take the championship his stock is gonna go down. If he does? Well, couple that with his revenge kill on Polt at TING and it becomes a lot easier to get back on the hype train for Spring's one-two DreamHack punch.


(Z)Scarlett - Effortless
Scarlett's LotV endeavors are rather neatly tied up in that one word, for good and for bad. On one hand, it's a bit of a shame to see the ex-most-exciting-foreigner-of-HotS falter so heavily, but on the other hand I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a little impressive to watch her dominate the GPL qualifiers anyway. Her win over viOLet in the TING Open gives her ZvZ some amount of hope, but it'll all depend on which Scarlett shows up. If HotS-Scarlett shows up- prepare for an exciting tournament. If LotV-Americanized-Scarlett shows up? Well, she'll probably show a good set in the Ro16 before disappointing her way out in Groups.

Desired Result : Hard Quarterfinals/Easy Semifinals
If this is truly Scarlett making a worthy return to the scene, it shouldn't be too hard for her to find a spot in the Quarters. Hell, she's shown enough flickers of potential that—if you put them together—it'd be easy to wipe the floor with the likes of MajOr and XiGua, and even PtitDrogo isn't too far off from there. However, even if she shows up quite big, MarineLorD/Elazer/Nerchio/Snute is a tough top four to break into. But, at the end of the day? I'd be glad to even see her up on the pedestal with them.


(Z)Sioras - I Really Have No Clue, Guys
Seriously? Do any of you guys know who Sioras is? Have any of you watched any of his games? Well, let me break down what we know: even in his short list of LotV results he's managed to lose to not one but three (four, counting repeats) players in this tournament. That's at least a little impressive, right? Oh, come on, none of you could manage that! Probably. Maybe.

Desired Result : Literally Anything
I mean, uhm, he beat Petraeus to get here, so that's not too bad, right? Probe, too! And he took a game off Scarlett one time, so it's definitely not impossible for him to take a set. It'll just be really weird, because it's the type of upset that is possible but nobody wants to face because it's just too unusual so maybe it's for the best that he goes out 0-4 and puts a smile on some other nerd's face.

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 19 2016 02:37 GMT
#2
I know who Sioras is
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Pughy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Wales662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 02:53:54
March 19 2016 02:39 GMT
#3
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2616 Posts
March 19 2016 02:40 GMT
#4
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is

I have no idea who this guy is.
Topher_Doll
Profile Joined August 2015
United States76 Posts
March 19 2016 02:42 GMT
#5
Did the author not do their iA research and how he performed in the last international GPL tournament?
I'm a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 19 2016 02:44 GMT
#6
On March 19 2016 11:39 Pughy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).


Victory by default is the best sort of victory
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 02:45:59
March 19 2016 02:44 GMT
#7
On March 19 2016 11:39 Pughy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).

AKA the mongolian mycerion.
Thanks for the article btw, I didn't even know there was a tournament this weekend (and even less that MlorD was part of it).
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Pughy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Wales662 Posts
March 19 2016 02:54 GMT
#8
On March 19 2016 11:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 11:39 Pughy wrote:
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).


Victory by default is the best sort of victory



It must be a nice feeling being undisputed best player haha.


PS. Sioras, just incase he reads this, If you get shit on at this tournament I'm demodding you from my stream.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
March 19 2016 03:03 GMT
#9
On March 19 2016 11:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 11:39 Pughy wrote:
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).


Victory by default is the best sort of victory


Victory without trying is the most rewarding sort of victory
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
March 19 2016 03:29 GMT
#10
Sioras is 16 year old KR GM and very cheesy. He's not too bad tbh but yeah shouldn't be favoured vs anybody in this tournament.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 19 2016 03:59 GMT
#11
SCARLETT FIGHTING!

CA-NA-DA
CA-NA-DA

Also good luck Sioras!
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 19 2016 04:00 GMT
#12
On March 19 2016 11:42 Topher_Doll wrote:
Did the author not do their iA research and how he performed in the last international GPL tournament?

It got weighed out by his performances since and considering how early it was in LotV. It's like saying FireCake is top 3 foreigner right now because of his DHW.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 19 2016 04:11 GMT
#13
Yeah I could see either Elazer, Snute or Nerchio winning this.

A good tourney for EU zergs.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
March 19 2016 04:31 GMT
#14
I'm assuming calling Jieshi "The Mystery" was intentional.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 04:54:02
March 19 2016 04:53 GMT
#15
This tournament is also important for WCS Spring.
WCS Standings invites are based on points on April 11th so this is the only tournament before then. Winner will get enough points for top 8
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CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
March 19 2016 05:44 GMT
#16
the wildcard games are playing right now.
Hastem vs time
snute vs courage
in the first round.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
March 19 2016 05:52 GMT
#17
Sioras plays in Go4SC2 from time to time with some decent results, I'm happy he's there at least we got to see new faces.

And...

On March 19 2016 12:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Sioras is 16 year old KR GM and very cheesy. He's not too bad tbh but yeah shouldn't be favoured vs anybody in this tournament.


I didn't knew he was that young! Welp here's hoping he continues to improve then :D
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 19 2016 05:59 GMT
#18
On March 19 2016 13:31 Circumstance wrote:
I'm assuming calling Jieshi "The Mystery" was intentional.


Maybe this time he'll finally "explain" what the mystery is.

Also did Sioras finally get an answer from Blizzard as to which WCS region he should be competing in?
Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
March 19 2016 12:00 GMT
#19
On March 19 2016 13:53 Inflicted wrote:
This tournament is also important for WCS Spring.
WCS Standings invites are based on points on April 11th so this is the only tournament before then. Winner will get enough points for top 8


That is actually quite big, that makes this tournament a lot more important than I thought it was. Would love to see a seperate analysis of the potential ranking shifts.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12762 Posts
March 19 2016 12:04 GMT
#20
I hope that MLorD finally does well, and that Drogo redeems himself (which should be easy considering the race distribution), seeing some chinese terrans do well would also be cool!
I expect Elazer to get upset by a chinese player.
WriterMaru
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 12:13:35
March 19 2016 12:13 GMT
#21
On March 19 2016 13:11 vult wrote:
Yeah I could see either Elazer, Snute or Nerchio winning this.

A good tourney for EU zergs.

Either one of those 3 or MLord. If he doesn't choke, I think he can beat anyone in the tournament.
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MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
March 19 2016 13:49 GMT
#22
I'm pretty sure Sioras will upset his group
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 19 2016 14:09 GMT
#23
When are we going to get fair events again? Where are the Koreans? Sorry Blizzard, this remains fundmanetally unfair.
maru lover forever
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8224 Posts
March 19 2016 14:10 GMT
#24
Two Terrans, all foreigners, and no Koreans? What the...
TsogiMaster
Profile Joined October 2014
191 Posts
March 19 2016 15:28 GMT
#25
On March 19 2016 11:39 Pughy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 11:37 Shellshock wrote:
I know who Sioras is


He's Mongolia's greatest player, everyone knows him (this is a joke because he's the only Mongolian SC2 player).


Well u are wrong, he isnt the only player, we have more players, but Sioras is the best one.
Gaming is love. Gaming is life.
Shrinkzxo
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Dotoland672 Posts
March 19 2016 17:00 GMT
#26
On March 19 2016 23:10 geokilla wrote:
Two Terrans, all foreigners, and no Koreans? What the...


Welcome to 2016
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Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
March 19 2016 18:44 GMT
#27
Its funny/sad that a tournament with such a big prize pool has such a weak line up. Insanely boring games to come, not worht watching tbh. But im really hype for PL and GSL!
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 20 2016 03:21 GMT
#28
On March 19 2016 21:00 Abradix1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 13:53 Inflicted wrote:
This tournament is also important for WCS Spring.
WCS Standings invites are based on points on April 11th so this is the only tournament before then. Winner will get enough points for top 8


That is actually quite big, that makes this tournament a lot more important than I thought it was. Would love to see a seperate analysis of the potential ranking shifts.

There's not much. To boil it down into likely events- if MarineLorD makes 2nd, he gets the spot. If not and Has gets top 8, he gets the stop. If not and MarineLorD (or iA, causing a potential tiebreaker) gets Ro4, they get the spot.

Anyone else can get the spot if they get #1 (or, in the case of quite a few people) #2, but the chances of seeing anyone outside of MarineLorD/Elazer/Snute/PtitDrogo/Nerchio in the finals is insignificant.

When you note that Has is the favorite in his qualifier and iAsonu is probably not making top 4, the only significant data gained from this is 'MarineLorD needs to perform here or at Regionals'.
Writermaru pls
Chant1
Profile Joined June 2015
37 Posts
March 20 2016 10:31 GMT
#29
it is so hard to care about this...
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland926 Posts
March 20 2016 10:53 GMT
#30
I'm secretly rooting for Sioras.
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 20 2016 18:47 GMT
#31
On March 20 2016 03:44 Ensiferum8 wrote:
Its funny/sad that a tournament with such a big prize pool has such a weak line up. Insanely boring games to come, not worht watching tbh. But im really hype for PL and GSL!

Maybe, you don't know one thing. One day after the tournament, there will be another minitournament with prize pool 12k USD, where some selected (not the best) Koreans will play against the foreign winners of the tournament. I hope, these matches will be interesting, as I expect that players like Snute can actually beat Koreans (and even more when these are not the top ones). There will be ByuN and ByuL, Stork and a few others. At least that.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 20 2016 19:50 GMT
#32
not going to tune in.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 20 2016 19:52 GMT
#33
On March 21 2016 04:50 boxerfred wrote:
not going to tune in.

thank you for letting us know. i was wondering if you would or not
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
March 20 2016 20:15 GMT
#34
Absolutely going to tune in; I'm really looking forward to seeing the matches.

Well.. if the production holds up. China seems scary for production, lately.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 00:59:30
March 21 2016 00:50 GMT
#35
On March 21 2016 05:15 Rehio wrote:
Absolutely going to tune in; I'm really looking forward to seeing the matches.

Well.. if the production holds up. China seems scary for production, lately.

Well, I would like to tune in, but not for the group with 4 Zergs and not while Proleague / GSL runs at the same time. So I guess Thursday is the only option. But I will definitely tune in for the showmatch with the Koreans (on Sunday or Monday?). I just hope, the last two Koreans announced will be true stars and not some B-line up. But I am definitely not complaining about ByuN and DRG.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
March 21 2016 02:06 GMT
#36
As a Zerg and ZvZ fan I couldn't be more excited for group C :D
Team Liquid
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9362 Posts
March 21 2016 02:35 GMT
#37
On March 21 2016 11:06 Liquid`Snute wrote:
As a Zerg and ZvZ fan I couldn't be more excited for group C :D


Is ZvZ your best matchup atm?
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
March 21 2016 03:42 GMT
#38
On March 21 2016 09:50 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2016 05:15 Rehio wrote:
Absolutely going to tune in; I'm really looking forward to seeing the matches.

Well.. if the production holds up. China seems scary for production, lately.

Well, I would like to tune in, but not for the group with 4 Zergs and not while Proleague / GSL runs at the same time. So I guess Thursday is the only option. But I will definitely tune in for the showmatch with the Koreans (on Sunday or Monday?). I just hope, the last two Koreans announced will be true stars and not some B-line up. But I am definitely not complaining about ByuN and DRG.


Last two KR players will be kespa so relax, depending on proleague playoffs results.
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-21 07:49:22
March 21 2016 07:47 GMT
#39
On March 21 2016 11:06 Liquid`Snute wrote:
As a Zerg and ZvZ fan I couldn't be more excited for group C :D

:-)
Be happy, you are in an interesting group and not in 4Z group :-)
On March 21 2016 12:42 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2016 09:50 Diabolique wrote:
On March 21 2016 05:15 Rehio wrote:
Absolutely going to tune in; I'm really looking forward to seeing the matches.

Well.. if the production holds up. China seems scary for production, lately.

Well, I would like to tune in, but not for the group with 4 Zergs and not while Proleague / GSL runs at the same time. So I guess Thursday is the only option. But I will definitely tune in for the showmatch with the Koreans (on Sunday or Monday?). I just hope, the last two Koreans announced will be true stars and not some B-line up. But I am definitely not complaining about ByuN and DRG.


Last two KR players will be kespa so relax, depending on proleague playoffs results.

Perfect ... and as I was saying, I am already happy with ByuN and DRG. Although they are not the top stars, they are stars enough for me.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 22 2016 19:25 GMT
#40
#SiorasFighting
Liquid`Snute, AcerScarlett, ROOTCatZ, MC, Maru, Soulkey, Losira
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
March 23 2016 15:52 GMT
#41
Sioras is a hidden God.... HOLY MOLY o.o
Djsoke
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-23 17:30:11
March 23 2016 17:29 GMT
#42
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 23 2016 17:32 GMT
#43
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

we get it, you don't like WCS

stop trying to shit on everyone's else parade
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
March 23 2016 17:55 GMT
#44
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

I mean, KingKong went to the Open Bracket and got wrecked by Harstem, so that point doesn't even make much sense
Writermaru pls
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 23 2016 18:13 GMT
#45
On March 24 2016 02:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

we get it, you don't like WCS

stop trying to shit on everyone's else parade


How about no?
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
March 23 2016 18:50 GMT
#46
On March 24 2016 03:13 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 02:32 Ej_ wrote:
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

we get it, you don't like WCS

stop trying to shit on everyone's else parade


How about no?


Please stop being a negative nancy
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
March 23 2016 19:11 GMT
#47
On March 24 2016 00:52 Soke wrote:
Sioras is a hidden God.... HOLY MOLY o.o


To be fair, one win is ZvZ and the other is against a out of form Mystery who was on a 39 degree fever.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
March 23 2016 19:46 GMT
#48
On March 24 2016 04:11 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 00:52 Soke wrote:
Sioras is a hidden God.... HOLY MOLY o.o


To be fair, one win is ZvZ and the other is against a out of form Mystery who was on a 39 degree fever.

Really? what a trooper!
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Cluster__
Profile Joined September 2013
United States328 Posts
March 24 2016 01:03 GMT
#49
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"


snoooooze
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OzCrescendo
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Australia31 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-24 01:35:10
March 24 2016 01:29 GMT
#50
Sioras, leader of the Golden Swarm!

I honestly want to see him pull off the upset of the century.
He's young, plays smart, has skill and talent, and took out some of Oceania's best players to get to Shanghai.

And yes, while we at Exile5 had to take it on the chin regarding misunderstanding the residency rules and lost KingkOng's placement seed, that should in no way take anything away from Sioras' abilities.

Sioras defeated KingkOng the first time they met in the brackets that tournament. It was in the finals rematch where KingkOng's experience shined through and put Sioras in second place for the qualifier.

So, while he has a chance to make more upsets happen: #SiorasFighting!
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Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
March 24 2016 02:03 GMT
#51
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

couldnt agree more............

But im still not gonna watch. If i want to see scrubs playing, I might as well watch some NA ladder games, the quality is much more similar to WCS than WCS is to GSL.

Im really hype for PL finals though!

Ill be cheering for Maru, and for TY in GSL

go terran go!
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
March 24 2016 08:46 GMT
#52
On March 24 2016 11:03 Ensiferum8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 02:29 showstealer1829 wrote:
I had an epiphany last night while I was sleeping.

I normally do not care for these WCS Welfare tournaments outside of Has but last night I realised this time I have another dog in the fight.

I want Sioras to win this tournament more than I've wanted anyone to win a Starcraft tournament outside of Ryung in the infamous "IMBA" GSL

But it's also different. I wanted Ryung to win cause I was a huge fan of Ryung and genuinely wanted him to win. I don't want Sioras to win because I'm a fan of his.

No I want Sioras to win because Sioras winning to me would be the perfect example of WCS 2016. A fake qualifier winning a fake "Premier" tournament over the crushed hopes and dreams of a player who was better than him but "Whoops he's Korean, so fuck him"

couldnt agree more............

But im still not gonna watch. If i want to see scrubs playing, I might as well watch some NA ladder games, the quality is much more similar to WCS than WCS is to GSL.

Im really hype for PL finals though!

Ill be cheering for Maru, and for TY in GSL

go terran go!

Guys, relax, everyone knows that the whole WCS system is shitty and the most players in it would lose against an average noname Korean met on the street in Seoul. But that is not the fault of the organizers of this tournament. That is the fault of Blizzard.

In fact, the organizers of this tournament did something amazing, what so far no other tournament organizer had the courage to do. They organized a fight between the best foreigners, at least from this tournament, and some of the best Koreans. I am surprised, Blizzard did not ban them from its welfare money for doing this, but I am enthusiastic about it. Imagine - they did exactly what Blizzard did not want anybody to do. They take the money from the sponsors and use them on the Koreans, because the prize pool for foreigners is paid by Blizzard! So clever!

I like GSL, I love Proleague, but there was one thing, I was so far seriously missing this season - fights between the best foreigners and some really, really good Koreans. And here we have it! This is SO GREAT!

On Sunday, we will see 24 matches (not one match, not two matches, not five matches, but twenty-four matches!!!!) between (hopefully) Snute, MarineLord, Nerchio, Drogo, iAsonu ... on one side ... and TY, Dear, ByuN, DRG, ByuL and Stork on the other side.

We should be so much grateful to the organizers of this tournament for it!!!!!!!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
March 25 2016 15:28 GMT
#53
Any of you knows whats the average viewer count during that tournament?

Im curious to see if fthe change so far from is at least getting some positive in the popularity of sc2, or if we just screwed all the koreans and destroyed high quality games outside of korea for no reason.
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
March 25 2016 16:04 GMT
#54
On March 26 2016 00:28 Ensiferum8 wrote:
Any of you knows whats the average viewer count during that tournament?

Im curious to see if fthe change so far from is at least getting some positive in the popularity of sc2, or if we just screwed all the koreans and destroyed high quality games outside of korea for no reason.


The previous WCS events this year have done very, very well.

This one, not so much, but I think that's a consequence of a bad time zone and very little promotion from the Chinese tournament runners.
Owl
Profile Joined April 2005
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-25 22:27:59
March 25 2016 22:13 GMT
#55
On March 26 2016 00:28 Ensiferum8 wrote:
Any of you knows whats the average viewer count during that tournament?

Im curious to see if fthe change so far from is at least getting some positive in the popularity of sc2, or if we just screwed all the koreans and destroyed high quality games outside of korea for no reason.

Last one did very good.
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