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bigbadgreen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
February 29 2016 02:18 GMT
#261
I've tried the balance map a couple of times and wonder how they can get any usable info out of it because of the matchmaking. to me it seems like the range of people I've been playing is so large I am winning before any potential test changes are in play or I am losing before they are. It seems the test map data could be getting skewed because of a huge variance in mechanical skill vs unit stats. Is anybody else having similar issues?
ReaLLy..
Profile Joined March 2016
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Last Edited: 2016-03-08 03:18:13
March 08 2016 02:57 GMT
#262
On February 29 2016 11:18 bigbadgreen wrote:
I've tried the balance map a couple of times and wonder how they can get any usable info out of it because of the matchmaking. to me it seems like the range of people I've been playing is so large I am winning before any potential test changes are in play or I am losing before they are. It seems the test map data could be getting skewed because of a huge variance in mechanical skill vs unit stats. Is anybody else having similar issues?


Yeah I have the same problem because somebody in their infinite genius made it so custom games autostart when full therefore u cannot even confirm if the rank of your opponent is anywhere close to yours. Also you cannot make sure your playing the right race to even test the new balance changes in the first place.. Yet another example of downgraded battle.net from literally over 15 years ago. This is an issue which should definitely be fixed if the public is expected to help with balance testing as this thread suggests.

It's sad to me to think people's livelihoods are based on this game and they have downgraded making the game slower to be balanced, hurting viewership and playerbase, and therefore taking money out of pro-gamers pockets and blizzards very own pockets. I truly believe the flaws of the new and dis-improved battlenet have doomed sc2 into never reaching the heights of its predecessor more than anything. (At least they finally fixed some things such as arcade but it was probably too little, too late.)
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