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Mute City2363 Posts
On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2.
Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed'
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On January 26 2016 04:13 CrayonSc2 wrote:
The only thing i don't like is how the website is just full of vods. You have links that directs you to vods but it seems like you just wanna put them everywhere for the sake of forcing people to watch the vods. if there is no live feed then leave it blank. Thats just my opinion. Whenever I i look at the LIVE list, theres a few, which is fine cause i get too choose. However theres always a long list of Vods under the section, its very sloppy in my opinion.
We are in the process of redesigning much of the site. The browsing pages are still using the old beta layout and systems.
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If the plugin/extension would become open source, I would be willing to give it a chance as it can be easily analyzed. Until such time I will not install a plugin, just like I won't disable adblock on 99% of the websites I visit, purely due to the fact that I rather be save from malware.
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On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe
IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself.
I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague.
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On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself. I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague.
DingIt doesn't use the P2P system.
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On January 26 2016 04:20 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2. Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed'
He has... about a year ago. Everyone keeps ignoring that, since it doesn't fit the witchhunt narrative ^_^
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w
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On January 26 2016 05:44 dNa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 04:20 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2. Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed' He has... about a year ago. Everyone keeps ignoring that, since it doesn't fit the witchhunt narrative ^_^ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w
That's because R1CH is talking about the octoshape.exe file that was initially used by DingIT they have since moved on to the browser extension
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On January 26 2016 05:52 Ctone23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 05:44 dNa wrote:On January 26 2016 04:20 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2. Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed' He has... about a year ago. Everyone keeps ignoring that, since it doesn't fit the witchhunt narrative ^_^ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w That's because R1CH is talking about the octoshape.exe file that was initially used by DingIT they have since moved on to the browser extension
alright ima use this one instead then:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7ba
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On January 26 2016 05:52 Ctone23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 05:44 dNa wrote:On January 26 2016 04:20 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2. Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed' He has... about a year ago. Everyone keeps ignoring that, since it doesn't fit the witchhunt narrative ^_^ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w That's because R1CH is talking about the octoshape.exe file that was initially used by DingIT they have since moved on to the browser extension
I would assume those are the same or at least that R1CH made sure the extension is also fine before featuring DingIt streams.
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On January 26 2016 04:20 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
So the octoshape infiniteHD .exe was really bad since it was running in the background even when you didn't watch a stream and closed your browser. Obviously I uninstalled that, but I'm willing to give the chrome extension a chance, if R1ch gives this post his stamp of approval. Just for the fact that it seems like DingIt really wants to support sc2. Similarly, I'll wait for R1ch / some similarly competent person to analyse what's going on, but it's worth pointing out that almost everyone has flash installed. It's one thing having a problem with dingit specifically, it's another to just use the lazy excuse 'I don't want plugins installed'
Flash is entirely different since you don't have to install a new version of it for every new website you visit. Dingit wants people to install a plugin just for a streaming service that no one likes or cares about and gets a fraction of the views that Twitch does.
TL and Reddit are not where everyone goes to get SC2 content, a lot of people just open up Twitch and watch whatever SC2 stream has the most viewers. By using Dingit, SSL is hiding itself from the eyes of that audience.
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On January 26 2016 05:59 jalstar wrote:
TL and Reddit are not where everyone goes to get SC2 content, a lot of people just open up Twitch and watch whatever SC2 stream has the most viewers. By using Dingit, SSL is hiding itself from the eyes of that audience.
Viewership numbers for the Korean leagues didn't look like they've been getting a lot from that audience anyway. And why would they? It's in the middle of the night for NA and morning/noon for EU, aka when people generally don't just open up Twitch at random.
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On January 26 2016 06:05 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 05:59 jalstar wrote:
TL and Reddit are not where everyone goes to get SC2 content, a lot of people just open up Twitch and watch whatever SC2 stream has the most viewers. By using Dingit, SSL is hiding itself from the eyes of that audience. Viewership numbers for the Korean leagues didn't look like they've been getting a lot from that audience anyway. And why would they? It's in the middle of the night for NA and morning/noon for EU, aka when people generally don't just open up Twitch at random.
Not compared to EU/NA timezone events but still far more than they get on Dingit. And Dingit still claims to be making money despite how much it must have cost to take SSL off Twitch.
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On January 26 2016 06:07 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 06:05 Elentos wrote:On January 26 2016 05:59 jalstar wrote:
TL and Reddit are not where everyone goes to get SC2 content, a lot of people just open up Twitch and watch whatever SC2 stream has the most viewers. By using Dingit, SSL is hiding itself from the eyes of that audience. Viewership numbers for the Korean leagues didn't look like they've been getting a lot from that audience anyway. And why would they? It's in the middle of the night for NA and morning/noon for EU, aka when people generally don't just open up Twitch at random. Not compared to EU/NA timezone events but still far more than they get on Dingit. And Dingit still claims to be making money despite how much it must have cost to take SSL off Twitch.
Viewer numbers for SSL on DingIt have been rising steadily, so it's pretty obvious that part of the lost viewership is people who'd be interested and just don't know about it yet, while the other part is people going crazy over the plugin. The people you mentioned are probably not even a big net loss for SSL itself because they have 3 or so Korean streams that are also drawing in people who refuse to use DingIt and an audience who wouldn't watch the English cast on Twitch anyway.
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So you want us to download a plugin so we can watch ads and you can reduce costs and then pay tournament organizers to make you exclusive.
WOW seems like Dingit got it all figured out.
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On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself. I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague. DingIt doesn't use the P2P system.
But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped?
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On January 26 2016 06:30 TheWinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself. I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague. DingIt doesn't use the P2P system. But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped?
It's not, it's an entirely seperate plugin from the P2P thing. See R1CH's comments regarding DingIt already posted on this page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7ba
Plugin is legit and basically just an annoyance. And obviously then everyone has to decide for themselves if they want to get annoyed or rather watch somewhere else 
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Yeah I don't think so.
Also, these reviews lol
raz0rthr0atModified 2015년 12월 2일
I honestly don't know what this plugin is supposed to do. 3 days ago I initially installed the Dingit extension, now it's asking me to install a second extension when the original is already successfully installed. WHY DO I HAVE TO HAVE THIS GARBAGE TO WATCH A GAME. I'm just going to check any/all dingit scores online. Text is better than this trash.
I give this league less than a year before people get sick of using this and just watching everything via. Twitch or other sites that don't play you for a total sucker and make money while your data takes a SERIOUS hit.
Also, dingit. What's with the 30+ fake reviews? If anything actually UNNERVED me about your app, it was the fact you had to pay people (housewives and indian business professionals?) to rate your app 리뷰가 도움이 되셨습니까? 예아니요답글 | 스팸 또는 악용사례로 표시
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On January 26 2016 06:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 06:30 TheWinks wrote:On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself. I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague. DingIt doesn't use the P2P system. But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped? It's not, it's an entirely seperate plugin from the P2P thing. See R1CH's comments regarding DingIt already posted on this page. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3whttps://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7baPlugin is legit and basically just an annoyance.
Where's their p2p plugin? If I go directly to octoshape there aren't different plugins, there's only one.
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On January 26 2016 06:43 TheWinks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2016 06:34 Elentos wrote:On January 26 2016 06:30 TheWinks wrote:On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself. I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague. DingIt doesn't use the P2P system. But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped? It's not, it's an entirely seperate plugin from the P2P thing. See R1CH's comments regarding DingIt already posted on this page. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3whttps://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7baPlugin is legit and basically just an annoyance. Where's their p2p plugin? If I go directly to octoshape there aren't different plugins, there's only one.
Good question. They might have taken it out for being outdated (or the bad reputation), I have no idea.
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I'll stick to watching the VoDs. No one should have to download a plugin (and a potentially vulnerable one) just to watch a stream when all other platforms doesn't have that.
I'm also not too happy that Spotv all of a sudden switch to Dingit without any prior announcement. SSL started on Azubu and then it got switched to dingit. It just felt like a bait and switch.
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