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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 25 2016 21:52 GMT
#61
On January 26 2016 06:40 Deathstar wrote:
Yeah I don't think so.

Also, these reviews lol

Show nested quote +
raz0rthr0atModified 2015년 12월 2일
I honestly don't know what this plugin is supposed to do. 3 days ago I initially installed the Dingit extension, now it's asking me to install a second extension when the original is already successfully installed. WHY DO I HAVE TO HAVE THIS GARBAGE TO WATCH A GAME. I'm just going to check any/all dingit scores online. Text is better than this trash.
I give this league less than a year before people get sick of using this and just watching everything via. Twitch or other sites that don't play you for a total sucker and make money while your data takes a SERIOUS hit.
Also, dingit. What's with the 30+ fake reviews? If anything actually UNNERVED me about your app, it was the fact you had to pay people (housewives and indian business professionals?) to rate your app 리뷰가 도움이 되셨습니까? 예아니요답글 | 스팸 또는 악용사례로 표시


Yeah a lot of the Play Store reviews are fake as well, tons of people from foreign countries calling it a game with great graphics, or non-specifically praising the interface. Almost none of the 5 star reviews look real.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 21:54:55
January 25 2016 21:54 GMT
#62
On January 26 2016 06:46 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 06:43 TheWinks wrote:
On January 26 2016 06:34 Elentos wrote:
On January 26 2016 06:30 TheWinks wrote:
On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:
On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:
On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe


IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself.
I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague.


DingIt doesn't use the P2P system.

But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped?

It's not, it's an entirely seperate plugin from the P2P thing. See R1CH's comments regarding DingIt already posted on this page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7ba
Plugin is legit and basically just an annoyance.

Where's their p2p plugin? If I go directly to octoshape there aren't different plugins, there's only one.

Good question. They might have taken it out for being outdated (or the bad reputation), I have no idea.

Infinite HD is also packaged with the name "octoshape" which is the name they used for p2p. It doesn't make sense to me that you'd take a tainted product name and use it for something new unless it actually kept including the stuff that made everyone mad in the first place.
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
January 25 2016 21:54 GMT
#63
dingit gets so much backlash for that little plugin, it really can't be worth it for them to continue to push users to install it. having an optional plugin for those interested makes sense, but there's so many that simply wont get the service a chance...
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Coypirus
Profile Joined February 2015
119 Posts
January 25 2016 21:55 GMT
#64
Alright then, I guess I'll give DingIt and Starleague a shot.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 25 2016 21:58 GMT
#65
On January 26 2016 06:54 TheWinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 06:46 Elentos wrote:
On January 26 2016 06:43 TheWinks wrote:
On January 26 2016 06:34 Elentos wrote:
On January 26 2016 06:30 TheWinks wrote:
On January 26 2016 05:29 madals wrote:
On January 26 2016 05:09 Lorch wrote:
On January 26 2016 03:26 Musicus wrote:
octoshape infiniteHD .exe


IF this is truly based on octoshape lmfao. I might be mixing things up, but I'm like 99% sure I used to use this to watch MLG live streams back in 08 or 09. Really shitty stuff given that it used p2p so each viewer downloads and uploads the stream at the same time. End result is that your internet is pretty much unusable while watching. Even back then everyone was begging MLG to go back to their old player. Guess history is repeating itself.
I don't care much since I only watch live for finals nowadays, but damn I'd never ever want to go back to octoshape, not even for something as awesome as Starleague.


DingIt doesn't use the P2P system.

But it's built into the plugin right? With no guarantee that one day the switch won't be flipped?

It's not, it's an entirely seperate plugin from the P2P thing. See R1CH's comments regarding DingIt already posted on this page.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2ws3lf/qa_about_dingit_the_new_streaming_service_on_the/couep3w
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/40wulu/ssl_only_on_dingit_no_twitch_and_azubu/cyyb7ba
Plugin is legit and basically just an annoyance.

Where's their p2p plugin? If I go directly to octoshape there aren't different plugins, there's only one.

Good question. They might have taken it out for being outdated (or the bad reputation), I have no idea.

Infinite HD is also packaged with the name "octoshape" which is the name they used for p2p. It doesn't make sense to me that you'd take a tainted product name and use it for something new unless it actually kept including the stuff that made everyone mad in the first place.

Well from what I gather Octoshape is the name of the company that developed the plugin, and then Octoshape was bought later on by another company (Akamai). But I dunno, not an expert.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 25 2016 22:12 GMT
#66
I don't know if I want to install this when it keeps running in the background. Fix pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
January 25 2016 22:14 GMT
#67
On January 26 2016 07:12 Penev wrote:
I don't know if I want to install this when it keeps running in the background. Fix pls


The Chrome extension is contained within the browser and closes when the browser does!
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 25 2016 22:21 GMT
#68
On January 26 2016 07:14 madals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:12 Penev wrote:
I don't know if I want to install this when it keeps running in the background. Fix pls


The Chrome extension is contained within the browser and closes when the browser does!

Thanks for the reply. Is this planned for other browsers too? I rather use Firefox
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 25 2016 22:24 GMT
#69
I mean OK, you put some effort into this PR talk.
Now let's face the truth : DingIt looks bad even on HD, doesn't have the rewind function (afaik, might be wrong on that one) that should always exist nowadays, installs a plugin that you cannot uninstall easily and that no other streaming platform installs, and blocks AdBlock without caring for the user's wishes.
I'm all for more rivals to challenge Twitch's declining monopoly, but god damn try to at least be better than Twitch !
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 25 2016 22:28 GMT
#70
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
January 25 2016 22:30 GMT
#71
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


Holy shit, that would be so evil. Seriously Madals please tell us Proealgue will not be on DingIt!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 25 2016 22:32 GMT
#72
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 25 2016 22:33 GMT
#73
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


That thought hurts a bit.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
January 25 2016 22:33 GMT
#74
On January 26 2016 07:32 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.


With Afreeca sponsoring a team ? I doubt that
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
January 25 2016 22:35 GMT
#75
On January 26 2016 07:32 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

Me too, it's a deal with SpotTV that also broadcasts Proleague. Couldv'e been worse btw apparently, with SpotTV wishing HD behind a paywall
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 25 2016 22:37 GMT
#76
On January 26 2016 07:33 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:32 Phredxor wrote:
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.


With Afreeca sponsoring a team ? I doubt that


Hopefully it's afreeca too, but im sure if they did a deal with Spo for SSL they would have for PL.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
January 25 2016 22:43 GMT
#77
On January 26 2016 07:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:32 Phredxor wrote:
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

Me too, it's a deal with SpotTV that also broadcasts Proleague. Couldv'e been worse btw apparently, with SpotTV wishing HD behind a paywall

I'm not taking DingIt at face value here. They haven't been honest and straight forward in the past and madals isn't doing it now. We are missing some big part of the story in their back door deal that got SSL exclusively on dingit.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 25 2016 22:52 GMT
#78
On January 26 2016 07:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 07:32 Phredxor wrote:
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

Me too, it's a deal with SpotTV that also broadcasts Proleague. Couldv'e been worse btw apparently, with SpotTV wishing HD behind a paywall

The question is whether SPO has the right to determine the platform for Proleague on their own or if KeSPA has a say in it and can force them to show it in Twitch/Azubu/Afreeca. SSL is organised by SPO, Proleague is just broadcasted by them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 25 2016 23:01 GMT
#79
Requiring users to install anything in 2016 is a really, really dumb business plan. There is really not much else to say. Until you understand that, you are going to get ridiculed and no amount of explaining and PR will change that. Even if it is technically better, the general audience is not going to accept it. Surely, you will get viewers, if you have a desirable product, but you will get less than you would get otherwise and the shittalking will never stop until you start being reasonable.

Surely, video streaming is now in a little bit of funky position - everyone hates Flash and Flash definitely needs to be phased out, but HTML5 streaming is not very mature and stable yet. But the solution is to offer both to your best abilities, not to push non-standard 3rd party solution.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 25 2016 23:02 GMT
#80
On January 26 2016 07:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
My biggest fear right now is that this sudden PR move is to cushion/prepare us for the announcement that Proleague will also be on Dingit


OMG no It took me weeks to relieve anxiety about PL when I finally saw photoshoots and the teaser this week. But you had to come and ruin it all with this single comment ¬¬

Here's hoping and praying it's not DingIt exclusive...
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