EPTSC2's shrinking talent pool: stuchiu on ESPN - Page 5
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:00 lichter wrote: dw guys i dont think they have the ability to pirate me what if they pay you in shoes | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
how can they convince a guy who owns a million shoes with shoes? Now if it was a cloak....... | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
i would agree to 1 bespoke hiro yanagimachi per month or 1 edward green or vass every article depending on workload | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:05 stuchiu wrote: how can they convince a guy who owns a million shoes with shoes? Now if it was a cloak....... mainline lemaire kaftan cloak also acceptable | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19373 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:05 stuchiu wrote: how can they convince a guy who owns a million shoes with shoes? Now if it was a cloak....... Is lichter one of the loan sharks that sonic owed money to?!? This would explain a lot. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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tokinho
United States792 Posts
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:40 tokinho wrote: FUCK!! I mean seriously fuck!!!!! Its like Tencent could not have asked for more. Way do to more to kill the starcraft scene than anyone else in the entire history of the game. I mean holy fuck this is soooooo bad.................. Fuck....... the first impression most people are going to get of starcraft. Its fucking dying. This could not any worse. Tencent is so proud to have this be the first featured sc2 article. This is probably the worst news I have ever seen and somehow this is featured. It's truth though, good article imo. Good that it get publicity, maybe someone will change something about it. Sad though how the game with THE HIGHEST BY FAR skill cap, the game that STARTED ESPORTS, is barely recognized by the world at large. Not sure what to say about it. The simplicity of other popular games I think has something to do with it. How is the average jane, ever going to truly understand what goes into starcraft without putting time and effort in. Think about trying to explain American football to someone who has never watched it, that's hard (especially if interest is moderate). Now try it with starcraft. Infinitely more rules and strategic depth to explain, whose going to take the time to swallow that pill? Mostly people that already play the game. I think there will always be a scene for sc2, but idk what it would take to get it to the highest levels of appreciation publicly. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:20 BisuDagger wrote: Is lichter one of the loan sharks that sonic owed money to?!? This would explain a lot. he shoulda asked me for advice tbh | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
And who knows if the the apex of SC2 has passed? Get a couple Stephano level foreigners and interest will pick back up. Who knows, | ||
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TelecoM
United States10825 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On January 21 2016 13:06 Bagration wrote: The Sc2 is dying talk annoys me. All eSports are mortal IMO, but crying about a decline feels like a 30 year old lamenting his impending death because his prime has passed. And who knows if the the apex of SC2 has passed? Get a couple Stephano level foreigners and interest will pick back up. Who knows, What is true is that whenever a game starts a decline, people start crying and it greatly accelerates therate of death of a game. Once that negative atmosphere is there, nobody wishes to seriously invest themselves in the game, and the content producers and passionate people disappear. I worry for the future of Dota 2 the day that the prize pool is TI_X is lower than the previous iteration. A thing that bothers me about SC2 is people complain about WCS. It's like if WCS2016 was something that Blizzard was obliged to do. Dota 2 has $200,000+ prize pool tournaments on a more than monthly basis, and TI and the Majors are just icing on the cake which Valve does. On the other hand, in SC2, without WCS there would almost be no SC2, and I think it's fair to say that it's artificially being kept alive by Blizzard sponsored tournament, and people keep asking for more prize money, when the viewer figures are so low, that they don't warrant anything of that magnitude, and bleh. I simply wish people were more realistic about the situation of the game, instead of acting entitled and complaining about the game they supposedly liked because it's losing popularity. It's a very disappointing perpetual cycle, and I wish there was an effective way to handle it. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On January 21 2016 12:40 tokinho wrote: FUCK!! I mean seriously fuck!!!!! Its like Tencent could not have asked for more. Way do to more to kill the starcraft scene than anyone else in the entire history of the game. I mean holy fuck this is soooooo bad.................. Fuck....... the first impression most people are going to get of starcraft. Its fucking dying. This could not any worse. Tencent is so proud to have this be the first featured sc2 article. This is probably the worst news I have ever seen and somehow this is featured. You shouldnt get mad at a writer for writing the truth and being observant. Be mad at the people/company responsible for the decline of your game's esport status. People have been trying to come up with solutions, suggestions, and fixes since the game was launched, but everytime any/everyone predicted this was a real issue, they would get flamed and even silenced/booted. You cant get mad at people who have been trying to help for years, but were silenced and pushed out of the community. Never understand why SC2 embraced the "lets just stick our heads in the sand and ignore every flaw" stance. People who were predicting this and making suggestions shouldnt have been ignored, but embraced, as they would only give criticism to try to further the game/scene. You dont make suggestions for a game you dont care about...you move on to the next one. Also dont understand people acting what TL/other entities are doing to get their writers back from ESPN lmao... unless you are going to match/oneup every opportunity/offer ESPN or other sites give the writers, expect them to do whatever they can to get their work recognized, and occasionally even get paid. | ||
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insitelol
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ErectedZenith
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Meanwhile, OGN had to look for lifeline in LoL. And to be honest Blizzard didn't even try to emulate BW's success in gameplay (not talking about MBS, UUS, Automine) but in their troop movement and offer more harassment option (which BW fans liked) so ofc the original fans would be turned off. Blizzard could have relied on SC2 being number 1 esport in the west until they completely ceased to innovate the game while DotA 2, CS:GO, and CoD taking over the new esport talent. Now the game is pretty much on Blizzard's life support and to be frank; Hearthstone, Heroes, and Overwatch will make Blizzard more money than SC2 in the long run. | ||
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Dragnor
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NikaLogy
Denmark58 Posts
On January 21 2016 14:44 ErectedZenith wrote: Let's be honest here, Blizzard fucked themselves pretty hard by screwing up their PR trying to sue Kespa/OGN/MBC for broadcasting BW. Meanwhile, OGN had to look for lifeline in LoL. And to be honest Blizzard didn't even try to emulate BW's success in gameplay (not talking about MBS, UUS, Automine) but in their troop movement and offer more harassment option (which BW fans liked) so ofc the original fans would be turned off. Blizzard could have relied on SC2 being number 1 esport in the west until they completely ceased to innovate the game while DotA 2, CS:GO, and CoD taking over the new esport talent. Now the game is pretty much on Blizzard's life support and to be frank; Hearthstone, Heroes, and Overwatch will make Blizzard more money than SC2 in the long run. Blizzard only sued Kespa and OGN because they aggresively tried to claim the sole rights for starcraft in Korea, basically attacking Blizzards copyright. They made a huge mistake and tried stepping on EXTREMELY shaky legal grounds, and they fucked themselves over. Blizzard shouldnt be blamed for protecting their rights to their own game. | ||
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Kaz1
35 Posts
Very well written article, with a lot of insight. | ||
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SC2Toastie
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