EPTTo be honest, I don't find the tweet bad itself, pure clickbait. Nothing more, there is nothing "offensive" about it and this whole twitter drama is stupid...
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Wrath
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To be honest, I don't find the tweet bad itself, pure clickbait. Nothing more, there is nothing "offensive" about it and this whole twitter drama is stupid... | ||
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207aicila
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I definitely agree with him on this particular issue though. | ||
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Penev
28530 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:45 Elentos wrote: Well, it's not even that it's less top heavy but more like that the foundation was strengthened. The winner of Code S gets the same amount as last year, for example, but everyone below him now gets more reasonable amounts because the prize pool was upped (funnily enough GSL is still way less then any season of WCS last year). I think NASL sound guy finally found his match in ESPN twitter guy. Maybe it's the same guy NASL sound guy pls | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On January 25 2016 01:48 DJHelium wrote: Probably shouldn't comment on what the article is about without reading it. Talking smack about things you don't know about is standard internet behavior. | ||
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Penev
28530 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:09 royalroadweed wrote: Talking smack about things you don't know about is standard internet behavior. It's human behavior, made embarrassingly visible through the internet | ||
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Elentos
55581 Posts
Anyone from around the world can play in WCS and even Korean players can "buy in" so WCS is neither continental, nor national. Sometimes, I feel like Twitter is a problem for humanity. | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:22 Elentos wrote: https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/691304017335549954 Anyone from around the world can play in WCS and even Korean players can "buy in" so WCS is neither continental, nor national. Sometimes, I feel like Twitter is a problem for humanity. You really need to take a break from twitter and stop copying every tweet here man  | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:22 Elentos wrote: https://twitter.com/RotterdaM08/status/691304017335549954 Anyone from around the world can play in WCS and even Korean players can "buy in" so WCS is neither continental, nor national. Sometimes, I feel like Twitter is a problem for humanity. But it's easier to justify this crap and lash out at anyone criticising it if you ignore that simple fact.  Not gonna lie, lost a lot of respect for these community pillars for this... | ||
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Elentos
55581 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:24 WrathSCII wrote: You really need to take a break from twitter and stop copying every tweet here man I only take ones I have to say something about. You have no idea how this thread would look if every tweet was copied. Would be a giant mess | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:26 Elentos wrote: I only take ones I have to say something about. You have no idea how this thread would look if every tweet was copied. Would be a giant mess Don't worry I did not mean anything with what I said, I'm actually reading the tweets myself on twitter and can't believe those people are called "community figures". This is literally a -100 IQ level of tweeting... | ||
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Elentos
55581 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:31 WrathSCII wrote: Don't worry I did not mean anything with what I said, I'm actually reading the tweets myself on twitter and can't believe those people are called "community figures". This is literally a -100 IQ level of tweeting... That's why I think Twitter is a problem. "Important" people whose voices are heard/accepted and influence others say things that shouldn't be said in public. Like, they'd never have kindergarden arguments like these out in the open street when 5 people are watching, now they're doing this in front of hundreds. And it's not like they're random fans getting into arguments. They're people who are very much directly involved in the scene. I mean, it's like Lilbow at Blizzcon, really. | ||
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Jealous
10336 Posts
On January 25 2016 00:39 Musicus wrote: Yep, the prize money beeing less top heavy is a good start. Now they just need to spread it out over more tournaments instead of less. Maybe they should just give every player who enters any tournament prize money, and make it no less than 50% of what the winner gets. And they should get a "Participation" award. No, a trophy even! Like the ones that 8 year old basketball players get when every team in the league makes it to play-offs and their team goes 0-2 in the QF and loses. They still get a trophy, why can't our flunky foreign players? That would surely motivate them to come to tournaments and overlook the fact that the whole system was rigged so that they have more incentive to get rocked in front of an audience. But not rocked too hard. That would be too embarrassing. That's why, no Koreans please. Just prize money for everyone, good feels, national pride and fans' player hype without legitimate challenge and accomplishment. Yea, that is exactly what a competitive game needs. Behold, people, the fans of SC2 have spoken: | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:36 Elentos wrote: That's why I think Twitter is a problem. "Important" people whose voices are heard/accepted and influence others say things that shouldn't be said in public. Like, they'd never have kindergarden arguments like these out in the open street when 5 people are watching, now they're doing this in front of hundreds. And it's not like they're random fans getting into arguments. They're people who are very much directly involved in the scene. Their loss really. Those of us who have been following esports for a while know how Thorin is and that's no surprise, but when he's actually mostly correct, their reactions make them look like a bunch of pillocks, so they only stand to lose respect and credibility. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:36 Elentos wrote: That's why I think Twitter is a problem. "Important" people whose voices are heard/accepted and influence others say things that shouldn't be said in public. Like, they'd never have kindergarden arguments like these out in the open street when 5 people are watching, now they're doing this in front of hundreds. And it's not like they're random fans getting into arguments. They're people who are very much directly involved in the scene. This is why Riot pretty much forces their pro players to go through social media training | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 25 2016 01:48 DJHelium wrote: Probably shouldn't comment on what the article is about without reading it. I read the article. "The Korean scene is slowly dying out and the new WCS 2016 system does nothin to help it." Who sets WCS 2016? Blizzard.. Honestly I just have popcorn here with me, seeing foreigners and those who cast them crying about how they're finally free from Korea's reign of terror. My respect for the foreign starcraft community descends a little more each day. I'm just hoping that the mediatic shit-storm makes Blizzards re-evaluate their policy. The mixing of Korea and the foreign land was really good for both scenes: Koreans and foreigners. We were starting to get to the point where it was slowly become ONE big huge scene and it was awesome to see. Now we have this big ugly divide. | ||
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Silvana
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Jealous
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On January 25 2016 02:44 Incognoto wrote: I read the article. "The Korean scene is slowly dying out and the new WCS 2016 system does nothin to help it." Who sets WCS 2016? Blizzard.. Honestly I just have popcorn here with me, seeing foreigners and those who cast them crying about how they're finally free from Korea's reign of terror. My respect for the foreign starcraft community descends a little more each day. I'm just hoping that the mediatic shit-storm makes Blizzards re-evaluate their policy. The mixing of Korea and the foreign land was really good for both scenes: Koreans and foreigners. We were starting to get to the point where it was slowly become ONE big huge scene and it was awesome to see. Now we have this big ugly divide. Some public schools make no distinction between mentally handicapped students and regular students, mixing them freely in classes. The majority, however, put all the mentally handicapped in a Special Education class so that they don't disrupt regular students and waste their class time, while providing them with a caring and nurturing environment that doesn't place judgment or unfair expectations on them. This is ultimately better for the Special Education participants, because they can associate more freely with others who suffer from limited mental faculties without the social pressure of their more able peers. They have a lower chance for depression, and have higher self-esteem. The standards for success are lower, so everyone can succeed. This in turn is more convenient and rewarding for the parents/guardians/fans of these students. Blizzard simply took a system that was already in place elsewhere, saw the benefits, and applied it. EDIT: The above is a metaphor. | ||
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SmykuToronto
Poland269 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:54 Jealous wrote: Some public schools make no distinction between mentally handicapped students and regular students, mixing them freely in classes. The majority, however, put all the mentally handicapped in a Special Education class so that they don't disrupt regular students and waste their class time, while providing them with a caring and nurturing environment that doesn't place judgment or unfair expectations on them. This is ultimately better for the Special Education participants, because they can associate more freely with others who suffer from limited mental faculties without the social pressure of their more able peers; they have a lower chance for depression, and have higher self-esteem. Blizzard simply took a system already in place and saw the benefits. Bwahahahahahaaa! Btw, is that quote in your signature real? | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On January 25 2016 02:52 Silvana wrote: I hate and I feel kinda embarrassed about the fact that our community figures, the ones that give visibility to our scene, act like the average random Joe Rage on the internet. I wish they were more professional. We need to push for better standards. They have to be over sensitive over every little shit. It all started with a stupid tweet from ESPN THAT ITSELF WAS NOT EVEN INSULTING OR ANYTHING. Yet lets enjoy the ride and go spam twitter with Bullshitting about to show that we care about the game. Now we are fighting each other and calling each other names and who slept with more girls than the other... just ugh. | ||
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