• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:51
CEST 06:51
KST 13:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Remastered crash fix suggestions Syncronization issues and can't find games a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0 BWCL Season 65 Announcement
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10601 users

SSL Ro16 will now be double elimination - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
96 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 13 2016 14:59 GMT
#81
On January 13 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 23:08 Silvana wrote:
On January 13 2016 20:19 Thouhastmail wrote:
[image loading]


What does this say? Pls it's too early in the morning to try to google guess korean

It's the schedule

Jan 7: Rag vs Inno, ByuN vs soO
Jan 14: ByuL vs Trust, Soulkey vs Solar
Jan 21: Other Ro16 matches
Jan 28: loser bracket 1st round
Feb 4: Ro8 matches 1 and 2
Feb 11: Ro8 matches 3 and 4
Feb 18: loser bracket 2nd round
Feb 25: semifinals
March 3: loser bracket 3rd round
March 10: loser bracket 4th round
March 17: loser bracket decider
March 24: winner bracket final
March 31: loser final
April 9: Grand Finals

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 23:15 SeriousLus wrote:
it takes 4 months???????????? to finish a ro16!?!?!?!?!? tournament? holy cow

Well, it's double elimination, that takes some time. And they only get 2 seasons per year. So they have to stretch.

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 23:14 MrMischelito wrote:
Maybe, if the map pool becomes more stable and rounded they can consider making it all bo7 series. Games are generally shorter in lotv anyways...

They're not that much shorter. In the most recent BO69 the game time averaged ~14 minutes in 49 games in LotV. A previous BO69 in HotS averaged ~17 minutes.

Did you convert HotS minutes to LotV minutes or vice versa though?
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 15:14:51
January 13 2016 15:03 GMT
#82
On January 13 2016 23:59 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:
On January 13 2016 23:08 Silvana wrote:
On January 13 2016 20:19 Thouhastmail wrote:
[image loading]


What does this say? Pls it's too early in the morning to try to google guess korean

It's the schedule

Jan 7: Rag vs Inno, ByuN vs soO
Jan 14: ByuL vs Trust, Soulkey vs Solar
Jan 21: Other Ro16 matches
Jan 28: loser bracket 1st round
Feb 4: Ro8 matches 1 and 2
Feb 11: Ro8 matches 3 and 4
Feb 18: loser bracket 2nd round
Feb 25: semifinals
March 3: loser bracket 3rd round
March 10: loser bracket 4th round
March 17: loser bracket decider
March 24: winner bracket final
March 31: loser final
April 9: Grand Finals

On January 13 2016 23:15 SeriousLus wrote:
it takes 4 months???????????? to finish a ro16!?!?!?!?!? tournament? holy cow

Well, it's double elimination, that takes some time. And they only get 2 seasons per year. So they have to stretch.

On January 13 2016 23:14 MrMischelito wrote:
Maybe, if the map pool becomes more stable and rounded they can consider making it all bo7 series. Games are generally shorter in lotv anyways...

They're not that much shorter. In the most recent BO69 the game time averaged ~14 minutes in 49 games in LotV. A previous BO69 in HotS averaged ~17 minutes.

Did you convert HotS minutes to LotV minutes or vice versa though?

Approximated game length via broadcast length, provided by Feardragon. Maybe both should be a bit shorter because he didn't calculate without breaks afaik.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
January 13 2016 15:05 GMT
#83
On January 13 2016 22:13 bObA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 22:07 Clonester wrote:
Thats a good format change. The best they could do after the 2 games of the stupid bo3 format have been played already. Next season, they can rethink their format again.


Exact.

+1. Well reacted by the organizers
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
January 13 2016 15:11 GMT
#84
Oh I see. It was too early in the morning to check OPs
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 13 2016 15:20 GMT
#85
2 bo3 per week O_o
rip passion
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 13 2016 15:24 GMT
#86
On January 14 2016 00:20 Deathstar wrote:
2 bo3 per week O_o

That was the original plan, yes. They'll be doing more than 2 from next week on though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 13 2016 15:25 GMT
#87
I've always liked double elimination brackets. Maybe not always for always for "leagues" but for weekend tournaments they are tops
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
TheLastTemplar
Profile Joined February 2012
Iceland593 Posts
January 13 2016 16:00 GMT
#88
wow this is awesome!!! :D TONS of great games errrmehgawdd
ladadidadi
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2275 Posts
January 13 2016 16:02 GMT
#89
absolutely love it!
Cogito, ergo Toss
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 13 2016 16:06 GMT
#90
A step in the right direction. Does fuck all to help the scene if you don't qualify though..
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 16:25:34
January 13 2016 16:25 GMT
#91
they listened. Maybe next they'll turn on damaged healthbars too.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 13 2016 16:27 GMT
#92
Changing the format mid-season is kinda odd, but better than the alternative.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
January 13 2016 17:45 GMT
#93
On January 13 2016 12:27 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
According to another source, "http://m.sports.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=311&aid=0000565684", Spotv at first wanted Bo1 format, and after negotiating with Blizzard who wanted it Bo5, it became Bo3.

BO1??? How could they even consider that...


Best of 1 is the best thing ever. I love it.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 13 2016 18:09 GMT
#94
yay for more SC and yay for "different" format. Whatever reason it is, Im tired of gsl groups for every single tourney
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 23:41:36
January 13 2016 23:41 GMT
#95
On January 13 2016 22:01 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:50 Elentos wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:48 cheekymonkey wrote:
On January 13 2016 20:50 Nine Gates wrote:
On January 13 2016 17:44 cheekymonkey wrote:
They actually considered bo.1? I don't think that would make a legitimate tournament in sc2. More like a joke tournament.
Bo1 was used in Brood War OSL Ro16s and in the WoL OSL Ro16. Granted, those were 4 player round robin groups, so each player played three games. But that still makes Bo1 carry the air of skillfullness.


I remember the WoL OSL, and it had a pretty lousy format as well IMO. But single elimination is something else entirely, and pretty much absurd given the variance of the game at this point.

On January 13 2016 17:41 cheekymonkey wrote:
F double elimination. I just despise this format.

Wait so you don't like single elimination and you dislike double elimination? :O

Triple elimination is the answer


Problem is with grand finals. If we have grand final with one player coming unbeatable and the other with 2 loses what will you do? Give 2 series advantage to a player? Hardly a final. Make it even? Hardly fair (though given the different amount of games played maybe it is)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 14 2016 08:03 GMT
#96
On January 14 2016 08:41 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 22:01 OtherWorld wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:50 Elentos wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:48 cheekymonkey wrote:
On January 13 2016 20:50 Nine Gates wrote:
On January 13 2016 17:44 cheekymonkey wrote:
They actually considered bo.1? I don't think that would make a legitimate tournament in sc2. More like a joke tournament.
Bo1 was used in Brood War OSL Ro16s and in the WoL OSL Ro16. Granted, those were 4 player round robin groups, so each player played three games. But that still makes Bo1 carry the air of skillfullness.


I remember the WoL OSL, and it had a pretty lousy format as well IMO. But single elimination is something else entirely, and pretty much absurd given the variance of the game at this point.

On January 13 2016 17:41 cheekymonkey wrote:
F double elimination. I just despise this format.

Wait so you don't like single elimination and you dislike double elimination? :O

Triple elimination is the answer


Problem is with grand finals. If we have grand final with one player coming unbeatable and the other with 2 loses what will you do? Give 2 series advantage to a player? Hardly a final. Make it even? Hardly fair (though given the different amount of games played maybe it is)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]




Bo69 with 2 map advantage
Liquipedia"Expert"
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 14 2016 09:36 GMT
#97
I quite like the change, even though i feel SKT payed for it
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
ISSL Monthly #1 - Day 1
CranKy Ducklings142
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup #151
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2466
GuemChi 1433
actioN 314
Hm[arnc] 70
sSak 9
Noble 8
Icarus 7
Dota 2
febbydoto339
NeuroSwarm163
PGG 102
Counter-Strike
taco 372
Other Games
summit1g11321
WinterStarcraft393
C9.Mang0355
PiGStarcraft228
XaKoH 209
Livibee142
ViBE44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1231
BasetradeTV37
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Letter149
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota262
League of Legends
• Rush1231
• Lourlo973
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6h 9m
herO vs SHIN
Percival vs ByuN
RotterdaM Event
11h 24m
Replay Cast
19h 9m
GSL
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.