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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 3 - Page 5

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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 09 2016 01:41 GMT
#81
Thanks for this stuchiu!

A little surprised Snute is 3rd over Huk, since he hasn't actually won anything, but it is what it is.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 09 2016 01:54 GMT
#82
i'm gonna say huk is probably still third, but not by too much
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 09 2016 02:05 GMT
#83
On January 09 2016 10:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 09:43 Muffloe wrote:
On January 09 2016 03:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Snute < NaNiwa?
Please

That's just saltyness or troll, can't believe you if you're serious. Would be a discredit for you to downgrade Naniwa because you dislike him personally

Looks like I was right about Stephano tho :o.

Also reading your post about Scarlett makes me very sad for terrans argonautdice :/.

Oh she has her fair share of losses against korean terrans, but her ZvT makes some of the best games!
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 09 2016 02:19 GMT
#84
On January 09 2016 07:00 Faefae wrote:
" Even now, when he says that it would take him just two weeks to get back to the top if he was serious, there is a small part of me that thinks he could do it." Wasnt it naniwa's words ? It's under the stephano paragraph
Anyway thanks that was a good read. I remember when stephano lost to Titan in an online cup, it was his first loss against protoss in like 30 games, that was the peak period of stephano i think


Naniwa said it first, but failed. Stephano on the cast said he could actually do it, unlike Naniwa.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 09 2016 02:23 GMT
#85
Snute has had a larger consistent peak with more results against more opponents over a longer period of time. Yes HuK had some big wins, but the breadth and depth of Snute’s career made too much of a difference, especially when you add in that he played in a harder era had his style broken down twice (at the end of WoL and the Swarmhost nerf) and was still able to keep at a level where he could (and did) upset GSL/SSL Champions.


I'd say having to beat MarineKing's 1/1/1 was as difficult at the time as having to beat herO's blink builds. That combined with more results is enough for me to have HuK as my #3.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 02:26:57
January 09 2016 02:26 GMT
#86
On January 09 2016 10:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 09:43 Muffloe wrote:
On January 09 2016 03:02 OtherWorld wrote:
Snute < NaNiwa?
Please

That's just saltyness or troll, can't believe you if you're serious. Would be a discredit for you to downgrade Naniwa because you dislike him personally

Looks like I was right about Stephano tho :o.

Also reading your post about Scarlett makes me very sad for terrans argonautdice :/.

I'll give you that, but "just above Naniwa" doesn't sound like a different tier to me, so get rekt m8 Needless to say I ofc disagree with the placement, but can see the arguement for Stephano
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2263 Posts
January 09 2016 02:37 GMT
#87
Great article, really enjoyed reading it
For me personally, I rate Huk>Snute and Naniwa>Stephano, but that's probably just bias because i like both of them really much.
Cogito, ergo Toss
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 02:40:08
January 09 2016 02:38 GMT
#88
"Snute played in a harder era than HuK"

lmao they're not remotely comparable in that fashion, why do people still spread this "the game was easier back then" garbage? HuK should be ahead of Snute because that MLG win + his GSL results go ahead of anything Snute did IMO.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 03:04:04
January 09 2016 02:57 GMT
#89
First time I've disagreed enough to comment on one of these. Huk should definitely be at least third. On a list of the "Greatest" foreigners, winning big lans and competing well in GSL should easily count far more than Snute consistently doing pretty well.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 09 2016 03:40 GMT
#90
ah, now I remember again why this series was published right now with that title and why the rankings look like they do...
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
January 09 2016 05:02 GMT
#91
You forgot Stephano's tournament win at Nation Wars 3
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 09 2016 06:27 GMT
#92
People still lapping up Stephano's "I barely practise" bullshit, I see.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
January 09 2016 06:31 GMT
#93
Naniwa > Stephano..... If for no other reason, just look at GSL.
(:
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 09 2016 06:34 GMT
#94
On January 09 2016 15:31 zanga wrote:
Naniwa > Stephano..... If for no other reason, just look at GSL.


lol, TOP was a GSL runner up, just a reminder.
RIP MKP
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 09 2016 07:19 GMT
#95
On January 09 2016 15:34 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 15:31 zanga wrote:
Naniwa > Stephano..... If for no other reason, just look at GSL.


lol, TOP was a GSL runner up, just a reminder.


But Top was a really good player in 2011. You'd be better mentioning Inca.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 07:28:35
January 09 2016 07:26 GMT
#96
List of players who did better in GSL than any foreigner ever:

(T)RainBOw
(T)Rain
(Z)July
(P)InCa
(T)TOP
(P)Genius
(Z)Sniper

Just something to keep in mind when we say that a Ro8 in GSL means you're a top foreigner all time
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 09 2016 07:42 GMT
#97
On January 09 2016 16:26 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
List of players who did better in GSL than any foreigner ever:

(T)RainBOw
(T)Rain
(Z)July
(P)InCa
(T)TOP
(P)Genius
(Z)Sniper

Just something to keep in mind when we say that a Ro8 in GSL means you're a top foreigner all time

Every one of those players was better than any foreigner at the time of their success.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 09 2016 08:24 GMT
#98
On January 09 2016 10:54 lichter wrote:
i'm gonna say huk is probably still third, but not by too much

top 3 ctrl :}
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boomshine
Profile Joined March 2013
Belgium9 Posts
January 09 2016 10:31 GMT
#99
Jinro ....
ther's a hole lot of pain
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 09 2016 11:32 GMT
#100
Huk not Top 3? Blasphemy! ;p
Someone call down the Thunder?
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